Jerry Rice 1 on 1 with Deion on NFL Network

Jerry probably has more ways to run that route then what he showed. I guess the amazing thng is how much ground he could cover in the short time he has to get into his route and make his break. Gotta be real quick to do that and have excellent body control because the timing can get thrown off if you accidently bump into the defender. I guess it helped being bigger than a majority of the dbs at the time. Still, wow.

To hell with the Rodgers/Smith arguement. What caught my attention was the absolute respect these two rivals had for each other. During his playing years Sanders did a great job hiding the fact that he feared or rather was nervous to go up against Rice. These two are arguably the best at their respective positions. As flamboyant as Sanders was, I was happy to hear his humble side and like him a little bit more now. His addition in 94 was one of the best moves the 49ers could have made. I loved him as a 49er and was pissed off that he left and went to the friggin Cowboys. Im a Sanders fan again.
On a side note, Rice appears to be in amazing shape. Sanders has let himself go a tad.

Originally posted by facestabber:
To hell with the Rodgers/Smith arguement. What caught my attention was the absolute respect these two rivals had for each other. During his playing years Sanders did a great job hiding the fact that he feared or rather was nervous to go up against Rice. These two are arguably the best at their respective positions. As flamboyant as Sanders was, I was happy to hear his humble side and like him a little bit more now. His addition in 94 was one of the best moves the 49ers could have made. I loved him as a 49er and was pissed off that he left and went to the friggin Cowboys. Im a Sanders fan again.
On a side note, Rice appears to be in amazing shape. Sanders has let himself go a tad.

Sanders is looking a bit chunky.

Originally posted by facestabber:
To hell with the Rodgers/Smith arguement. What caught my attention was the absolute respect these two rivals had for each other. During his playing years Sanders did a great job hiding the fact that he feared or rather was nervous to go up against Rice. These two are arguably the best at their respective positions. As flamboyant as Sanders was, I was happy to hear his humble side and like him a little bit more now. His addition in 94 was one of the best moves the 49ers could have made. I loved him as a 49er and was pissed off that he left and went to the friggin Cowboys. Im a Sanders fan again.
On a side note, Rice appears to be in amazing shape. Sanders has let himself go a tad.

I never forgave Sanders for that. I also hate his FA MERC mentality. I always felt he never respected his time with the Niners and always drooled over the Cowgirls.

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by facestabber:
To hell with the Rodgers/Smith arguement. What caught my attention was the absolute respect these two rivals had for each other. During his playing years Sanders did a great job hiding the fact that he feared or rather was nervous to go up against Rice. These two are arguably the best at their respective positions. As flamboyant as Sanders was, I was happy to hear his humble side and like him a little bit more now. His addition in 94 was one of the best moves the 49ers could have made. I loved him as a 49er and was pissed off that he left and went to the friggin Cowboys. Im a Sanders fan again.
On a side note, Rice appears to be in amazing shape. Sanders has let himself go a tad.

I never forgave Sanders for that. I also hate his FA MERC mentality. I always felt he never respected his time with the Niners and always drooled over the Cowgirls.

He actually does. I remember when they did that top 20 Super Bowl teams of all time, he was very vocal about the 1994 49ers being ranked too low.

I hate Deion Sanders so bad I won't watch, his big mouth is too much for me.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by facestabber:
To hell with the Rodgers/Smith arguement. What caught my attention was the absolute respect these two rivals had for each other. During his playing years Sanders did a great job hiding the fact that he feared or rather was nervous to go up against Rice. These two are arguably the best at their respective positions. As flamboyant as Sanders was, I was happy to hear his humble side and like him a little bit more now. His addition in 94 was one of the best moves the 49ers could have made. I loved him as a 49er and was pissed off that he left and went to the friggin Cowboys. Im a Sanders fan again.
On a side note, Rice appears to be in amazing shape. Sanders has let himself go a tad.

I never forgave Sanders for that. I also hate his FA MERC mentality. I always felt he never respected his time with the Niners and always drooled over the Cowgirls.

He actually does. I remember when they did that top 20 Super Bowl teams of all time, he was very vocal about the 1994 49ers being ranked too low.

I may be mistaken but I believe he said the 94 team was the most talented team he has played on. I just think at the end of the day he wanted a ring....got it. Then he wanted to prove how good he was, switched teams, got another ring. I think he liked the 49er team just not the coaching staff and his underpayment by the team.

Originally posted by SashRoxx-1:

Originally posted by 9er_84:

Originally posted by BayStreamin510:

Originally posted by SashRoxx-1:
Problem is everyone that is watching A Rodgers play now and A Smith play now think wow if the Niners would have picked A Rodgers the Niners would be challenging foir the superbowl...

Well here's what many have NOT thought of...Was A Rodgers thrown in right off the bat his rookmie year to start? Or Was he able to sit on the bench and learn the system. Answer wasnt the 1st statement.
When Arron Rodgers started did he have n OLine that resembled Swiss Cheese? No But for the entire career of A Smith He got that fantastic line blocking for him...

Now for the Biggest difference...Anybody that thinks D Driver G Jennings is equal to the Talented B Lloyd and whoever else the Niners had as WR should STOP Watching football those 2 WR corps arent even close...You throw a J Montana into the same team that A Smith had to start his career with with and he would have walked away from the game forever ONLY QB I can say would have had a chance with that expansion Niners team had been S Young Only cause he could consistantly run for his life.

What would Niner fans be saying if the Niners took Radgers and he'd have been thrown to the wolves and Failed...They would simply say Why did we draft Rodgers the guys a BUM...remember the Niners even were thinking of trading away the $1 pick and noone wanted it.

In the End...A Rodgers got to sit and watch as much as I CANT stand him watch B Favre for a few years on a talented team and learn hat was going on while A Smith got thrown into the fire with a team that had NO Leaders NO Clues what to do. and a coaching staff that had no clue what was going on...And NO Im not an Alopigic or whatever you all call them...Im just looking at what would have happened had A Rodgers come here ...not much different than A Smith given the talent he would have gotten here instead of in GB.

Finally, someone who agrees with me.

After 6 years no excuse for smith matters to say rodgers woyld come here and fail too is ridiickulas...talent on the field shows and reguardless of who you have around you flashes of that talent should show up after 7 years. Rodgers is a nfl claiber qb and alex is not even if thrown on the patriots team he would never reach the superbowl...knowing that we should have cut ties 2 or 3 years ago.

OK So what you are saying then is that the Niners in 05 to now have just as much talent as the Packers minus the QB? Hmmmm outside of V Davis and maybe Gore where do they matchup even in anything...the OLine? A Rodgers would NOT do well if he spent most of his time running because the defenses were about to kill him.

Now please explain to me WHY my statement is as you say RIDICULOUS that A Rodgers would fail. How do you know the coaching staff wouldnt have screwed up Rodgers as they did Smith. Please explain what I said was ridiculous...

because rodgers wouldnt fail here...to say rodgers would come here and fail is a disgrace to his talent, you do a qb who is playing in the superbowl a disgrace but imagining that he would fail as a qb here like alex did. we as a team would be better with aaron at qb then alex. We made the wrong pick, would we ve in the superbowl if we had aaron ? No but hes still better then alex reguardless of team time and talentlevel.

Originally posted by facestabber:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by facestabber:
To hell with the Rodgers/Smith arguement. What caught my attention was the absolute respect these two rivals had for each other. During his playing years Sanders did a great job hiding the fact that he feared or rather was nervous to go up against Rice. These two are arguably the best at their respective positions. As flamboyant as Sanders was, I was happy to hear his humble side and like him a little bit more now. His addition in 94 was one of the best moves the 49ers could have made. I loved him as a 49er and was pissed off that he left and went to the friggin Cowboys. Im a Sanders fan again.
On a side note, Rice appears to be in amazing shape. Sanders has let himself go a tad.

I never forgave Sanders for that. I also hate his FA MERC mentality. I always felt he never respected his time with the Niners and always drooled over the Cowgirls.

He actually does. I remember when they did that top 20 Super Bowl teams of all time, he was very vocal about the 1994 49ers being ranked too low.

I may be mistaken but I believe he said the 94 team was the most talented team he has played on. I just think at the end of the day he wanted a ring....got it. Then he wanted to prove how good he was, switched teams, got another ring. I think he liked the 49er team just not the coaching staff and his underpayment by the team.

Seriously! That team was laced with some of the best the HOF has to offer.

Originally posted by facestabber:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by facestabber:
To hell with the Rodgers/Smith arguement. What caught my attention was the absolute respect these two rivals had for each other. During his playing years Sanders did a great job hiding the fact that he feared or rather was nervous to go up against Rice. These two are arguably the best at their respective positions. As flamboyant as Sanders was, I was happy to hear his humble side and like him a little bit more now. His addition in 94 was one of the best moves the 49ers could have made. I loved him as a 49er and was pissed off that he left and went to the friggin Cowboys. Im a Sanders fan again.
On a side note, Rice appears to be in amazing shape. Sanders has let himself go a tad.

I never forgave Sanders for that. I also hate his FA MERC mentality. I always felt he never respected his time with the Niners and always drooled over the Cowgirls.

He actually does. I remember when they did that top 20 Super Bowl teams of all time, he was very vocal about the 1994 49ers being ranked too low.

I may be mistaken but I believe he said the 94 team was the most talented team he has played on. I just think at the end of the day he wanted a ring....got it. Then he wanted to prove how good he was, switched teams, got another ring. I think he liked the 49er team just not the coaching staff and his underpayment by the team.

He has. It wasn't underpayment. It was just a one year deal the team offered in a long series of 1 and 2 year deals offered to a lot of greats and Hall of Fame players on that 1994 team.

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by facestabber:
To hell with the Rodgers/Smith arguement. What caught my attention was the absolute respect these two rivals had for each other. During his playing years Sanders did a great job hiding the fact that he feared or rather was nervous to go up against Rice. These two are arguably the best at their respective positions. As flamboyant as Sanders was, I was happy to hear his humble side and like him a little bit more now. His addition in 94 was one of the best moves the 49ers could have made. I loved him as a 49er and was pissed off that he left and went to the friggin Cowboys. Im a Sanders fan again.
On a side note, Rice appears to be in amazing shape. Sanders has let himself go a tad.

I never forgave Sanders for that. I also hate his FA MERC mentality. I always felt he never respected his time with the Niners and always drooled over the Cowgirls.

dude, we didn't even let him hold the trophy when we won it. I don't blame him.

Originally posted by Envy:

Originally posted by Natewillis2252:

Originally posted by 9er_84:

Originally posted by BayStreamin510:

Originally posted by SashRoxx-1:
Problem is everyone that is watching A Rodgers play now and A Smith play now think wow if the Niners would have picked A Rodgers the Niners would be challenging foir the superbowl...

Well here's what many have NOT thought of...Was A Rodgers thrown in right off the bat his rookmie year to start? Or Was he able to sit on the bench and learn the system. Answer wasnt the 1st statement.
When Arron Rodgers started did he have n OLine that resembled Swiss Cheese? No But for the entire career of A Smith He got that fantastic line blocking for him...

Now for the Biggest difference...Anybody that thinks D Driver G Jennings is equal to the Talented B Lloyd and whoever else the Niners had as WR should STOP Watching football those 2 WR corps arent even close...You throw a J Montana into the same team that A Smith had to start his career with with and he would have walked away from the game forever ONLY QB I can say would have had a chance with that expansion Niners team had been S Young Only cause he could consistantly run for his life.

What would Niner fans be saying if the Niners took Radgers and he'd have been thrown to the wolves and Failed...They would simply say Why did we draft Rodgers the guys a BUM...remember the Niners even were thinking of trading away the $1 pick and noone wanted it.

In the End...A Rodgers got to sit and watch as much as I CANT stand him watch B Favre for a few years on a talented team and learn hat was going on while A Smith got thrown into the fire with a team that had NO Leaders NO Clues what to do. and a coaching staff that had no clue what was going on...And NO Im not an Alopigic or whatever you all call them...Im just looking at what would have happened had A Rodgers come here ...not much different than A Smith given the talent he would have gotten here instead of in GB.

Finally, someone who agrees with me.

After 6 years no excuse for smith matters to say rodgers woyld come here and fail too is ridiickulas...talent on the field shows and reguardless of who you have around you flashes of that talent should show up after 7 years. Rodgers is a nfl claiber qb and alex is not even if thrown on the patriots team he would never reach the superbowl...knowing that we should have cut ties 2 or 3 years ago.

except, how many QB's excelled with poor coaching and no talent??? name some please.

Tom Brady?

Seriously???

Originally posted by SashRoxx-1:
Problem is everyone that is watching A Rodgers play now and A Smith play now think wow if the Niners would have picked A Rodgers the Niners would be challenging foir the superbowl...

Well here's what many have NOT thought of...Was A Rodgers thrown in right off the bat his rookmie year to start? Or Was he able to sit on the bench and learn the system. Answer wasnt the 1st statement.
When Arron Rodgers started did he have n OLine that resembled Swiss Cheese? No But for the entire career of A Smith He got that fantastic line blocking for him...

Now for the Biggest difference...Anybody that thinks D Driver G Jennings is equal to the Talented B Lloyd and whoever else the Niners had as WR should STOP Watching football those 2 WR corps arent even close...You throw a J Montana into the same team that A Smith had to start his career with with and he would have walked away from the game forever ONLY QB I can say would have had a chance with that expansion Niners team had been S Young Only cause he could consistantly run for his life.

What would Niner fans be saying if the Niners took Rodgers and he'd have been thrown to the wolves and Failed...They would simply say Why did we draft Rodgers the guys a BUM...remember the Niners even were thinking of trading away the #1 pick and noone wanted it.

In the End...A Rodgers got to sit and watch as much as I CANT stand him watch B Favre for a few years on a talented team and learn hat was going on while A Smith got thrown into the fire with a team that had NO Leaders NO Clues what to do. and a coaching staff that had no clue what was going on...And NO Im not an Alopogic or whatever you all call them...Im just looking at what would have happened had A Rodgers come here ...not much different than A Smith given the talent he would have gotten here instead of in GB.

Although I agree with you that the 49ers would not have been a championship team with Aaron Rodgers instead of Alex Smith (because of lack of talent & poor coaching), I still think we would have been much better off with Rodgers. I think it's clear that Rodgers has much better fundamentals and intangibles than Alex Smith ever had. Rodgers is much more accurate, has a quicker release, makes much quicker decisions, has better pocket presence, sees the field better, has more self confidence on the field, and is more of a leader in critical situations. He doesn't seem to get flustered under pressure like Alex Smith does, and doesn't hold the ball as long. He makes the decision to either get rid of it, or run out of the pocket and make a play with his feet much sooner than Smith does. He is also willing to take more chances than Smith, which leads to a lot more big plays. It's a shame that we had such idiots running this team back in 2005, and didn't see these difference back then when they chose Smith over Rodgers. Rodgers wanted to play here, and was willing to take less money. And even after selecting Smith, we still had the chance to trade him to Tampa Bay on draft day and walk away with Rodgers and two other high draft picks. No, we probably wouldn't be a championship team with Rodgers, but we would have won more games, and been in much better position going forward with Jim Harbaugh as our coach.

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by Envy:

Originally posted by Natewillis2252:

Originally posted by 9er_84:

Originally posted by BayStreamin510:

Originally posted by SashRoxx-1:
Problem is everyone that is watching A Rodgers play now and A Smith play now think wow if the Niners would have picked A Rodgers the Niners would be challenging foir the superbowl...

Well here's what many have NOT thought of...Was A Rodgers thrown in right off the bat his rookmie year to start? Or Was he able to sit on the bench and learn the system. Answer wasnt the 1st statement.
When Arron Rodgers started did he have n OLine that resembled Swiss Cheese? No But for the entire career of A Smith He got that fantastic line blocking for him...

Now for the Biggest difference...Anybody that thinks D Driver G Jennings is equal to the Talented B Lloyd and whoever else the Niners had as WR should STOP Watching football those 2 WR corps arent even close...You throw a J Montana into the same team that A Smith had to start his career with with and he would have walked away from the game forever ONLY QB I can say would have had a chance with that expansion Niners team had been S Young Only cause he could consistantly run for his life.

What would Niner fans be saying if the Niners took Radgers and he'd have been thrown to the wolves and Failed...They would simply say Why did we draft Rodgers the guys a BUM...remember the Niners even were thinking of trading away the $1 pick and noone wanted it.

In the End...A Rodgers got to sit and watch as much as I CANT stand him watch B Favre for a few years on a talented team and learn hat was going on while A Smith got thrown into the fire with a team that had NO Leaders NO Clues what to do. and a coaching staff that had no clue what was going on...And NO Im not an Alopigic or whatever you all call them...Im just looking at what would have happened had A Rodgers come here ...not much different than A Smith given the talent he would have gotten here instead of in GB.

Finally, someone who agrees with me.

After 6 years no excuse for smith matters to say rodgers woyld come here and fail too is ridiickulas...talent on the field shows and reguardless of who you have around you flashes of that talent should show up after 7 years. Rodgers is a nfl claiber qb and alex is not even if thrown on the patriots team he would never reach the superbowl...knowing that we should have cut ties 2 or 3 years ago.

except, how many QB's excelled with poor coaching and no talent??? name some please.

Tom Brady?

Seriously???

Poor coaching? Hmm maybe not but certainly he has had some poor resources to work with.

Originally posted by Natewillis2252:

Originally posted by 9er_84:

Originally posted by BayStreamin510:

Originally posted by SashRoxx-1:
Problem is everyone that is watching A Rodgers play now and A Smith play now think wow if the Niners would have picked A Rodgers the Niners would be challenging foir the superbowl...

Well here's what many have NOT thought of...Was A Rodgers thrown in right off the bat his rookmie year to start? Or Was he able to sit on the bench and learn the system. Answer wasnt the 1st statement.
When Arron Rodgers started did he have n OLine that resembled Swiss Cheese? No But for the entire career of A Smith He got that fantastic line blocking for him...

Now for the Biggest difference...Anybody that thinks D Driver G Jennings is equal to the Talented B Lloyd and whoever else the Niners had as WR should STOP Watching football those 2 WR corps arent even close...You throw a J Montana into the same team that A Smith had to start his career with with and he would have walked away from the game forever ONLY QB I can say would have had a chance with that expansion Niners team had been S Young Only cause he could consistantly run for his life.

What would Niner fans be saying if the Niners took Radgers and he'd have been thrown to the wolves and Failed...They would simply say Why did we draft Rodgers the guys a BUM...remember the Niners even were thinking of trading away the $1 pick and noone wanted it.

In the End...A Rodgers got to sit and watch as much as I CANT stand him watch B Favre for a few years on a talented team and learn hat was going on while A Smith got thrown into the fire with a team that had NO Leaders NO Clues what to do. and a coaching staff that had no clue what was going on...And NO Im not an Alopigic or whatever you all call them...Im just looking at what would have happened had A Rodgers come here ...not much different than A Smith given the talent he would have gotten here instead of in GB.

Finally, someone who agrees with me.

After 6 years no excuse for smith matters to say rodgers woyld come here and fail too is ridiickulas...talent on the field shows and reguardless of who you have around you flashes of that talent should show up after 7 years. Rodgers is a nfl claiber qb and alex is not even if thrown on the patriots team he would never reach the superbowl...knowing that we should have cut ties 2 or 3 years ago.

except, how many QB's excelled with poor coaching and no talent??? name some please.

Peyton Manning played pretty good his second season with the great coach Jim Mora. "PLAYOFFS?" And who did Manning have? Marvin Harrison. Before you Smith lovers get your thong in a bunch, Harrison did not break 1,000 yards until Manning arrived. His best years prior to that were about 73 receptions, 860 yards, and 6 TDs. Not very great. And do you really think the Colts got lucky with Harrison, Wayne, Stokely, Dallas Clark, Gonzales, and Garcon? Haha...hmm maybe Manning made them better.

Our coach, Jim Harbaugh, played on those same crappy Colts teams. Do you remember any of the WRs on the team where Harbaugh was a hailmary away from the Super Bowl?

Looks like Phillip Rivers tore it up over there with Gates hurting and Jackson out. If they're special teams didn't blow ass their games SD make the playoffs with a sub par offense.

John Elway, Dan Foutes, Randell Cunningham, Warren Moon, Dan Marino had success on some bad teams. The list goes on and on dude. Come on just see the light.

Smith is garbage like Jeff George. All kinds of talent but....he's just not that great at the game.

A. Smith is worse then Sanchez. Give him an all Pro Team and he'll still look like trash.

[ Edited by Young2Rice on Feb 9, 2011 at 17:31:42 ]