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FGore2121
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Originally posted by SashRoxx-1:
Problem is everyone that is watching A Rodgers play now and A Smith play now think wow if the Niners would have picked A Rodgers the Niners would be challenging foir the superbowl...
Well here's what many have NOT thought of...Was A Rodgers thrown in right off the bat his rookmie year to start? Or Was he able to sit on the bench and learn the system. Answer wasnt the 1st statement.
When Arron Rodgers started did he have n OLine that resembled Swiss Cheese? No But for the entire career of A Smith He got that fantastic line blocking for him...
Now for the Biggest difference...Anybody that thinks D Driver G Jennings is equal to the Talented B Lloyd and whoever else the Niners had as WR should STOP Watching football those 2 WR corps arent even close...You throw a J Montana into the same team that A Smith had to start his career with with and he would have walked away from the game forever ONLY QB I can say would have had a chance with that expansion Niners team had been S Young Only cause he could consistantly run for his life.
What would Niner fans be saying if the Niners took Rodgers and he'd have been thrown to the wolves and Failed...They would simply say Why did we draft Rodgers the guys a BUM...remember the Niners even were thinking of trading away the #1 pick and noone wanted it.
In the End...A Rodgers got to sit and watch as much as I CANT stand him watch B Favre for a few years on a talented team and learn hat was going on while A Smith got thrown into the fire with a team that had NO Leaders NO Clues what to do. and a coaching staff that had no clue what was going on...And NO Im not an Alopogic or whatever you all call them...Im just looking at what would have happened had A Rodgers come here ...not much different than A Smith given the talent he would have gotten here instead of in GB.
And now.. back to Jerry Rice 1 on 1 with Deion on NFL Network.
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ace49ers
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I just saw Jerry Rice at the line of scrummage, even though its years after hung up the boots, it was magic.
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Chief
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Jerry Rice is god
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Rubberneck36
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Originally posted by Chief:
Jerry Rice is god
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MarkD
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Ok great Jerry all due respect but if you wanna pass on the torch pass it on now to Crabtree,Morgan,Ziegler,Williams etc. Owens ruined the chain of leadership you tried to pass to him. See Brandon Lloyd immense talent but no direction and work ethic because he followed T.O's lead. What I am saying is tutor our current player instead of talking how great thing where or could have been if we would have drafted Rogers.
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9er_84
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Originally posted by BayStreamin510:
Originally posted by SashRoxx-1:
Problem is everyone that is watching A Rodgers play now and A Smith play now think wow if the Niners would have picked A Rodgers the Niners would be challenging foir the superbowl...
Well here's what many have NOT thought of...Was A Rodgers thrown in right off the bat his rookmie year to start? Or Was he able to sit on the bench and learn the system. Answer wasnt the 1st statement.
When Arron Rodgers started did he have n OLine that resembled Swiss Cheese? No But for the entire career of A Smith He got that fantastic line blocking for him...
Now for the Biggest difference...Anybody that thinks D Driver G Jennings is equal to the Talented B Lloyd and whoever else the Niners had as WR should STOP Watching football those 2 WR corps arent even close...You throw a J Montana into the same team that A Smith had to start his career with with and he would have walked away from the game forever ONLY QB I can say would have had a chance with that expansion Niners team had been S Young Only cause he could consistantly run for his life.
What would Niner fans be saying if the Niners took Radgers and he'd have been thrown to the wolves and Failed...They would simply say Why did we draft Rodgers the guys a BUM...remember the Niners even were thinking of trading away the $1 pick and noone wanted it.
In the End...A Rodgers got to sit and watch as much as I CANT stand him watch B Favre for a few years on a talented team and learn hat was going on while A Smith got thrown into the fire with a team that had NO Leaders NO Clues what to do. and a coaching staff that had no clue what was going on...And NO Im not an Alopigic or whatever you all call them...Im just looking at what would have happened had A Rodgers come here ...not much different than A Smith given the talent he would have gotten here instead of in GB.
Finally, someone who agrees with me.
After 6 years no excuse for smith matters to say rodgers woyld come here and fail too is ridiickulas...talent on the field shows and reguardless of who you have around you flashes of that talent should show up after 7 years. Rodgers is a nfl claiber qb and alex is not even if thrown on the patriots team he would never reach the superbowl...knowing that we should have cut ties 2 or 3 years ago.
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9erfanAUS
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And to think how Terrel Owens might have carried on for Rice had he stayed and not developed such personality issues.
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LambdaChi49
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Didn't feel like starting a separate thread for this. Anyway...here is Steve Young's take.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/32783/steve-young-state-of-the-49ers-qb-situation
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Steve Young: They have a decent team and they have some great offensive weapons. I think you would be tempted to find somebody -- let's just say Kyle Orton or Matt Hasselbeck. Not that they are available, not that that is necessarily possible, but just guys with the kind of experience I am talking about that can come in with an offensive-minded coach, they can work together, they can get him protected, which I think they will do at San Francisco. To me, you could get decent pretty fast offensively. In the background, you have to find the answer for the long term. But there are teams that have been trying to do that for 35 years. I do not think there is really a secret there. Hopefully, there's a diamond in the rough. What we have now in San Francisco for the first time in a decade is a system in place, a coach in place, that can actually take a young player and develop him and actually get the most out of him, instead of the least. I think that we got the least out of Alex [Smith], and I do not think that is all Alex's fault.
"Not all Alex's fault" uh oh...
Alex Lovers: "Jerry is WR and doesn't know what he's talking about."
Alex Haters: "Steve is trying to be nice...what do you expect him to say..."
Have at it.
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I learned the 1st two routes in high school...the third one is trippy, never knew it even existed. I don't think even after days of practice, you can run that route quickly enough for a QB to get the ball out in under 2.5 seconds.
Great video.
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Jesu80ncleats
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Originally posted by SashRoxx-1:
Problem is everyone that is watching A Rodgers play now and A Smith play now think wow if the Niners would have picked A Rodgers the Niners would be challenging foir the superbowl...
Well here's what many have NOT thought of...Was A Rodgers thrown in right off the bat his rookmie year to start? Or Was he able to sit on the bench and learn the system. Answer wasnt the 1st statement.
When Arron Rodgers started did he have n OLine that resembled Swiss Cheese? No But for the entire career of A Smith He got that fantastic line blocking for him...
Now for the Biggest difference...Anybody that thinks D Driver G Jennings is equal to the Talented B Lloyd and whoever else the Niners had as WR should STOP Watching football those 2 WR corps arent even close...You throw a J Montana into the same team that A Smith had to start his career with with and he would have walked away from the game forever ONLY QB I can say would have had a chance with that expansion Niners team had been S Young Only cause he could consistantly run for his life.
What would Niner fans be saying if the Niners took Rodgers and he'd have been thrown to the wolves and Failed...They would simply say Why did we draft Rodgers the guys a BUM...remember the Niners even were thinking of trading away the #1 pick and noone wanted it.
In the End...A Rodgers got to sit and watch as much as I CANT stand him watch B Favre for a few years on a talented team and learn hat was going on while A Smith got thrown into the fire with a team that had NO Leaders NO Clues what to do. and a coaching staff that had no clue what was going on...And NO Im not an Alopogic or whatever you all call them...Im just looking at what would have happened had A Rodgers come here ...not much different than A Smith given the talent he would have gotten here instead of in GB.
I couldn't agree with you more.......I gave up explaining this because no 49er fan will let you live this down.
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Jesu80ncleats
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Originally posted by 9er_84:
Originally posted by BayStreamin510:
Originally posted by SashRoxx-1:
Problem is everyone that is watching A Rodgers play now and A Smith play now think wow if the Niners would have picked A Rodgers the Niners would be challenging foir the superbowl...
Well here's what many have NOT thought of...Was A Rodgers thrown in right off the bat his rookmie year to start? Or Was he able to sit on the bench and learn the system. Answer wasnt the 1st statement.
When Arron Rodgers started did he have n OLine that resembled Swiss Cheese? No But for the entire career of A Smith He got that fantastic line blocking for him...
Now for the Biggest difference...Anybody that thinks D Driver G Jennings is equal to the Talented B Lloyd and whoever else the Niners had as WR should STOP Watching football those 2 WR corps arent even close...You throw a J Montana into the same team that A Smith had to start his career with with and he would have walked away from the game forever ONLY QB I can say would have had a chance with that expansion Niners team had been S Young Only cause he could consistantly run for his life.
What would Niner fans be saying if the Niners took Radgers and he'd have been thrown to the wolves and Failed...They would simply say Why did we draft Rodgers the guys a BUM...remember the Niners even were thinking of trading away the $1 pick and noone wanted it.
In the End...A Rodgers got to sit and watch as much as I CANT stand him watch B Favre for a few years on a talented team and learn hat was going on while A Smith got thrown into the fire with a team that had NO Leaders NO Clues what to do. and a coaching staff that had no clue what was going on...And NO Im not an Alopigic or whatever you all call them...Im just looking at what would have happened had A Rodgers come here ...not much different than A Smith given the talent he would have gotten here instead of in GB.
Finally, someone who agrees with me.
After 6 years no excuse for smith matters to say rodgers woyld come here and fail too is ridiickulas...talent on the field shows and reguardless of who you have around you flashes of that talent should show up after 7 years. Rodgers is a nfl claiber qb and alex is not even if thrown on the patriots team he would never reach the superbowl...knowing that we should have cut ties 2 or 3 years ago.
except, how many QB's excelled with poor coaching and no talent??? name some please.
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Originally posted by Natewillis2252:
Originally posted by 9er_84:
Originally posted by BayStreamin510:
Originally posted by SashRoxx-1:
Problem is everyone that is watching A Rodgers play now and A Smith play now think wow if the Niners would have picked A Rodgers the Niners would be challenging foir the superbowl...
Well here's what many have NOT thought of...Was A Rodgers thrown in right off the bat his rookmie year to start? Or Was he able to sit on the bench and learn the system. Answer wasnt the 1st statement.
When Arron Rodgers started did he have n OLine that resembled Swiss Cheese? No But for the entire career of A Smith He got that fantastic line blocking for him...
Now for the Biggest difference...Anybody that thinks D Driver G Jennings is equal to the Talented B Lloyd and whoever else the Niners had as WR should STOP Watching football those 2 WR corps arent even close...You throw a J Montana into the same team that A Smith had to start his career with with and he would have walked away from the game forever ONLY QB I can say would have had a chance with that expansion Niners team had been S Young Only cause he could consistantly run for his life.
What would Niner fans be saying if the Niners took Radgers and he'd have been thrown to the wolves and Failed...They would simply say Why did we draft Rodgers the guys a BUM...remember the Niners even were thinking of trading away the $1 pick and noone wanted it.
In the End...A Rodgers got to sit and watch as much as I CANT stand him watch B Favre for a few years on a talented team and learn hat was going on while A Smith got thrown into the fire with a team that had NO Leaders NO Clues what to do. and a coaching staff that had no clue what was going on...And NO Im not an Alopigic or whatever you all call them...Im just looking at what would have happened had A Rodgers come here ...not much different than A Smith given the talent he would have gotten here instead of in GB.
Finally, someone who agrees with me.
After 6 years no excuse for smith matters to say rodgers woyld come here and fail too is ridiickulas...talent on the field shows and reguardless of who you have around you flashes of that talent should show up after 7 years. Rodgers is a nfl claiber qb and alex is not even if thrown on the patriots team he would never reach the superbowl...knowing that we should have cut ties 2 or 3 years ago.
except, how many QB's excelled with poor coaching and no talent??? name some please.
Tom Brady?
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Sjceruti
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Wait, we could have drafted Aaron Rodgers?
Where did you get such insightful information?
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SashRoxx-1
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Originally posted by 9er_84:
Originally posted by BayStreamin510:
Originally posted by SashRoxx-1:
Problem is everyone that is watching A Rodgers play now and A Smith play now think wow if the Niners would have picked A Rodgers the Niners would be challenging foir the superbowl...
Well here's what many have NOT thought of...Was A Rodgers thrown in right off the bat his rookmie year to start? Or Was he able to sit on the bench and learn the system. Answer wasnt the 1st statement.
When Arron Rodgers started did he have n OLine that resembled Swiss Cheese? No But for the entire career of A Smith He got that fantastic line blocking for him...
Now for the Biggest difference...Anybody that thinks D Driver G Jennings is equal to the Talented B Lloyd and whoever else the Niners had as WR should STOP Watching football those 2 WR corps arent even close...You throw a J Montana into the same team that A Smith had to start his career with with and he would have walked away from the game forever ONLY QB I can say would have had a chance with that expansion Niners team had been S Young Only cause he could consistantly run for his life.
What would Niner fans be saying if the Niners took Radgers and he'd have been thrown to the wolves and Failed...They would simply say Why did we draft Rodgers the guys a BUM...remember the Niners even were thinking of trading away the $1 pick and noone wanted it.
In the End...A Rodgers got to sit and watch as much as I CANT stand him watch B Favre for a few years on a talented team and learn hat was going on while A Smith got thrown into the fire with a team that had NO Leaders NO Clues what to do. and a coaching staff that had no clue what was going on...And NO Im not an Alopigic or whatever you all call them...Im just looking at what would have happened had A Rodgers come here ...not much different than A Smith given the talent he would have gotten here instead of in GB.
Finally, someone who agrees with me.
After 6 years no excuse for smith matters to say rodgers woyld come here and fail too is ridiickulas...talent on the field shows and reguardless of who you have around you flashes of that talent should show up after 7 years. Rodgers is a nfl claiber qb and alex is not even if thrown on the patriots team he would never reach the superbowl...knowing that we should have cut ties 2 or 3 years ago.
OK So what you are saying then is that the Niners in 05 to now have just as much talent as the Packers minus the QB? Hmmmm outside of V Davis and maybe Gore where do they matchup even in anything...the OLine? A Rodgers would NOT do well if he spent most of his time running because the defenses were about to kill him.
Now please explain to me WHY my statement is as you say RIDICULOUS that A Rodgers would fail. How do you know the coaching staff wouldnt have screwed up Rodgers as they did Smith. Please explain what I said was ridiculous...
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Originally posted by PatrickWillisHOF:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-super-bowl/09000d5d81e1a597/Rice-Deion-go-1-on-1-at-NFL-Experience?module=HP_video
This is an interesting segment with Deion and Jerry. Jerry explains the three different ways that he ran a slant. I found it very interesting when he mentions that Aaron Rodgers should have been the 49ers quarterback.
Should have been on the 49ers...wow. I love Jerry but it's not like us taking Smith at 1 was controversial and its not like people were jumping all over Rodgers. He got taken 20 something picks later.
Here's what Steve Young said recently.
"I think that we got the least out of Alex [Smith], and I do not think that is all Alex's fault."
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/32783/steve-young-state-of-the-49ers-qb-situation
People don't realize coaching and continuity is pretty much to best thing for young QBs. Rodgers had the best of both and Alex had the worst.
[ Edited by Sjceruti on Feb 5, 2011 at 07:38:02 ]