2007 Draft Redo: Willis goes 4th, Staley goes 10th - not bad!

Originally posted by SoCal9ers:

Originally posted by BayStreamin510:

Originally posted by jones49:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
In 2006 it would have us take Rodgers #1...

2005

Do you HONESTLY think Rodgers would've done better if he was in Smith's situation ? Having to learn 6 or so different offenses, injured shoulder, terrible line, no good receivers to throw to. Rodgers had Favre to sit behind for 3 years, same offense his whole career, has a pro line, & one of the best receiving cores.

honestly, HELL YEAH!!!
when you got it, you got it. Smith doesn't have it, sorry!

Think what you want. But remember this now that I said it. I wouldn't be surprised if Smith goes somewhere else, back ups for a couple years, & breaks out. He just needs the proper coaching & a better situation. I'm not saying he WILL be a great QB. I'm just saying that it's a good possibility. Same with Nate Davis.

Originally posted by BayStreamin510:

Originally posted by OregonNiner87:

Originally posted by BayStreamin510:

Originally posted by jones49:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
In 2006 it would have us take Rodgers #1...

2005

Do you HONESTLY think Rodgers would've done better if he was in Smith's situation ? Having to learn 6 or so different offenses, injured shoulder, terrible line, no good receivers to throw to. Rodgers had Favre to sit behind for 3 years, same offense his whole career, has a pro line, & one of the best receiving cores.

He certainly wouldn't be as bad as Alex Smith. Could you really argue he'd be anything worse than a top 15?

With a line like ours, of course. No QB can be good without a line. Look at Peyton, he usually never gets touched. & When he does, he screws up. Brady doesn't do well when his line doesn't do well either. You can't rely on a QB alone to determine whether or not he's good or not. Think about it this way. Every quarterback is good, otherwise they wouldn't be in the NFL right now. The reason why they are better than others is because of the players & coaches around them. It's a TEAM effort. Exactly why Alex, with the worse team, didn't so as well as Rodgers, with a very good line & receiving core, took them to the Super Bowl.

FAIL.

Interesting you say that , because it looks like the Packers had the worst O-line last year and Rodgers managed to go to the Pro Bowl.

Big Ben's O-line was the 2nd worst last year and he had a VERY SOLID year with 66.6 completion %, 4,328 yards, 26 TD's 12 INT's with a QB Rating of 100.5

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=true&conference=null&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&season=2009&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go

Originally posted by Sims84:

Originally posted by BayStreamin510:

Originally posted by OregonNiner87:

Originally posted by BayStreamin510:

Originally posted by jones49:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
In 2006 it would have us take Rodgers #1...

2005

Do you HONESTLY think Rodgers would've done better if he was in Smith's situation ? Having to learn 6 or so different offenses, injured shoulder, terrible line, no good receivers to throw to. Rodgers had Favre to sit behind for 3 years, same offense his whole career, has a pro line, & one of the best receiving cores.

He certainly wouldn't be as bad as Alex Smith. Could you really argue he'd be anything worse than a top 15?

With a line like ours, of course. No QB can be good without a line. Look at Peyton, he usually never gets touched. & When he does, he screws up. Brady doesn't do well when his line doesn't do well either. You can't rely on a QB alone to determine whether or not he's good or not. Think about it this way. Every quarterback is good, otherwise they wouldn't be in the NFL right now. The reason why they are better than others is because of the players & coaches around them. It's a TEAM effort. Exactly why Alex, with the worse team, didn't so as well as Rodgers, with a very good line & receiving core, took them to the Super Bowl.

FAIL.

Interesting you say that , because it looks like the Packers had the worst O-line last year and Rodgers managed to go to the Pro Bowl.

Big Ben's O-line was the 2nd worst last year and he had a VERY SOLID year with 66.6 completion %, 4,328 yards, 26 TD's 12 INT's with a QB Rating of 100.5

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=true&conference=null&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&season=2009&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go

Touche, I'll give you that one. But what about the receivers ? & The coaching ? They all have those too. & What did the niners have ? No true #1 receiver before Crabtree. & He's not a solid #1 yet. In Smith's early years, he had who ? Arnaz Battle ? They had a couple good receivers tho, who bloomed AFTER they left. That shows bad coaching. Singletary was very stubborn with the running game. VD didn't bloom until last year. I'll give you the line in GB & Pitts. But they also have very good coaches & receivers. Plus Steelers have a good running game. & GB's line have been dominating this postseason, otherwise Starks wouldn't be running all over everyone like a mad man. Yeeah, Rodgers went to the pro bowl last year. But did he take them to the Super Bowl ? Nope. How about this year with a good line ? Yeuup. Like I said, a TEAM effort.

Originally posted by Sims84:

Originally posted by BayStreamin510:

Originally posted by OregonNiner87:

Originally posted by BayStreamin510:

Originally posted by jones49:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
In 2006 it would have us take Rodgers #1...

2005

Do you HONESTLY think Rodgers would've done better if he was in Smith's situation ? Having to learn 6 or so different offenses, injured shoulder, terrible line, no good receivers to throw to. Rodgers had Favre to sit behind for 3 years, same offense his whole career, has a pro line, & one of the best receiving cores.

He certainly wouldn't be as bad as Alex Smith. Could you really argue he'd be anything worse than a top 15?

With a line like ours, of course. No QB can be good without a line. Look at Peyton, he usually never gets touched. & When he does, he screws up. Brady doesn't do well when his line doesn't do well either. You can't rely on a QB alone to determine whether or not he's good or not. Think about it this way. Every quarterback is good, otherwise they wouldn't be in the NFL right now. The reason why they are better than others is because of the players & coaches around them. It's a TEAM effort. Exactly why Alex, with the worse team, didn't so as well as Rodgers, with a very good line & receiving core, took them to the Super Bowl.

FAIL.

Interesting you say that , because it looks like the Packers had the worst O-line last year and Rodgers managed to go to the Pro Bowl.

Big Ben's O-line was the 2nd worst last year and he had a VERY SOLID year with 66.6 completion %, 4,328 yards, 26 TD's 12 INT's with a QB Rating of 100.5

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=true&conference=null&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&season=2009&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go

Both QB's of which were highly criticized last year for holding onto the ball to long. Rodgers has improved on that area and seemed to get the ball out a little quicker this season when compared to last.....Ben on the other hand? That has always been an issue with him so I doubt it will ever change.

Originally posted by BayStreamin510:

Originally posted by Sims84:

Originally posted by BayStreamin510:

Originally posted by OregonNiner87:

Originally posted by BayStreamin510:

Originally posted by jones49:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
In 2006 it would have us take Rodgers #1...

2005

Do you HONESTLY think Rodgers would've done better if he was in Smith's situation ? Having to learn 6 or so different offenses, injured shoulder, terrible line, no good receivers to throw to. Rodgers had Favre to sit behind for 3 years, same offense his whole career, has a pro line, & one of the best receiving cores.

He certainly wouldn't be as bad as Alex Smith. Could you really argue he'd be anything worse than a top 15?

With a line like ours, of course. No QB can be good without a line. Look at Peyton, he usually never gets touched. & When he does, he screws up. Brady doesn't do well when his line doesn't do well either. You can't rely on a QB alone to determine whether or not he's good or not. Think about it this way. Every quarterback is good, otherwise they wouldn't be in the NFL right now. The reason why they are better than others is because of the players & coaches around them. It's a TEAM effort. Exactly why Alex, with the worse team, didn't so as well as Rodgers, with a very good line & receiving core, took them to the Super Bowl.

FAIL.

Interesting you say that , because it looks like the Packers had the worst O-line last year and Rodgers managed to go to the Pro Bowl.

Big Ben's O-line was the 2nd worst last year and he had a VERY SOLID year with 66.6 completion %, 4,328 yards, 26 TD's 12 INT's with a QB Rating of 100.5

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=true&conference=null&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&season=2009&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go

Touche, I'll give you that one. But what about the receivers ? & The coaching ? They all have those too. & What did the niners have ? No true #1 receiver before Crabtree. & He's not a solid #1 yet. In Smith's early years, he had who ? Arnaz Battle ? They had a couple good receivers tho, who bloomed AFTER they left. That shows bad coaching. Singletary was very stubborn with the running game. VD didn't bloom until last year. I'll give you the line in GB & Pitts. But they also have very good coaches & receivers. Plus Steelers have a good running game. & GB's line have been dominating this postseason, otherwise Starks wouldn't be running all over everyone like a mad man. Yeeah, Rodgers went to the pro bowl last year. But did he take them to the Super Bowl ? Nope. How about this year with a good line ? Yeuup. Like I said, a TEAM effort.

Oh I agree, it is a team effort but I just had to show you good QB's can overcome when everything around them isn't perfect but don't sit here and make it seem like the 49ers have not tried to build a solid core around Alex. They drafted Gore which turned out to be a Pro Bowler, behind the same O-line Alex played behind , They have Vernon who has came alive, they drafted the best WR in the draft in 2009, they spent BOTH 1st Rounders on O-linemen this past year with a total of 3 1st round O-linemen and two 2nd rounders so they are definitely making an effort but yet it still hasn't worked out.

So now we are down to two causes. Alex and Coaching and if you ask me, I think they both have sucked

[ Edited by Sims84 on Jan 27, 2011 at 00:10:11 ]

Originally posted by backontop:

Originally posted by Sims84:

Originally posted by BayStreamin510:

Originally posted by OregonNiner87:

Originally posted by BayStreamin510:

Originally posted by jones49:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
In 2006 it would have us take Rodgers #1...

2005

Do you HONESTLY think Rodgers would've done better if he was in Smith's situation ? Having to learn 6 or so different offenses, injured shoulder, terrible line, no good receivers to throw to. Rodgers had Favre to sit behind for 3 years, same offense his whole career, has a pro line, & one of the best receiving cores.

He certainly wouldn't be as bad as Alex Smith. Could you really argue he'd be anything worse than a top 15?

With a line like ours, of course. No QB can be good without a line. Look at Peyton, he usually never gets touched. & When he does, he screws up. Brady doesn't do well when his line doesn't do well either. You can't rely on a QB alone to determine whether or not he's good or not. Think about it this way. Every quarterback is good, otherwise they wouldn't be in the NFL right now. The reason why they are better than others is because of the players & coaches around them. It's a TEAM effort. Exactly why Alex, with the worse team, didn't so as well as Rodgers, with a very good line & receiving core, took them to the Super Bowl.

FAIL.

Interesting you say that , because it looks like the Packers had the worst O-line last year and Rodgers managed to go to the Pro Bowl.

Big Ben's O-line was the 2nd worst last year and he had a VERY SOLID year with 66.6 completion %, 4,328 yards, 26 TD's 12 INT's with a QB Rating of 100.5

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=true&conference=null&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&season=2009&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go

Both QB's of which were highly criticized last year for holding onto the ball to long. Rodgers has improved on that area and seemed to get the ball out a little quicker this season when compared to last.....Ben on the other hand? That has always been an issue with him so I doubt it will ever change.

He did hold on to the ball too long, AT TIMES and took a lot of sacks and QB hits but yet still made enough plays to get his team to the playoffs and get himself into the Pro Bowl. This year, they were ranked 19th so STILL with a BELOW AVERAGE line, he gets his team all the way to the Superbowl Imagine how good he can be with a GOOD line or even a GREAT line

Big Ben's O-line this year finished 2 spots in front of San Fran and even with Ben's suspension, he had a pretty decent year and made two HUGE plays in the playoffs (54 yard completion on 3rd and 19 vs......the RAVENS and scrambling away and buying time to find Brown for a game winning 1st down vs the Jets) so these QB's MAKE everyone around them better, not the other way around like we are hoping we can do for Alex.

When is Alex going to start getting the ball out faster? He had no time to throw but yet Troy Smith had TOO MUCH time to throw since he was holding onto the ball so long

Back on topic, sort of. If they did a Redo of the 2005 draft, there is no way in Hell Rodgers is not 1st or at least the 1st QB taken. I'm glad our 2007 draft went the way it did though

[ Edited by Sims84 on Jan 27, 2011 at 00:08:29 ]

Originally posted by Sims84:

Originally posted by BayStreamin510:

Originally posted by Sims84:

Originally posted by BayStreamin510:

Originally posted by OregonNiner87:

Originally posted by BayStreamin510:

Originally posted by jones49:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
In 2006 it would have us take Rodgers #1...

2005

Do you HONESTLY think Rodgers would've done better if he was in Smith's situation ? Having to learn 6 or so different offenses, injured shoulder, terrible line, no good receivers to throw to. Rodgers had Favre to sit behind for 3 years, same offense his whole career, has a pro line, & one of the best receiving cores.

He certainly wouldn't be as bad as Alex Smith. Could you really argue he'd be anything worse than a top 15?

With a line like ours, of course. No QB can be good without a line. Look at Peyton, he usually never gets touched. & When he does, he screws up. Brady doesn't do well when his line doesn't do well either. You can't rely on a QB alone to determine whether or not he's good or not. Think about it this way. Every quarterback is good, otherwise they wouldn't be in the NFL right now. The reason why they are better than others is because of the players & coaches around them. It's a TEAM effort. Exactly why Alex, with the worse team, didn't so as well as Rodgers, with a very good line & receiving core, took them to the Super Bowl.

FAIL.

Interesting you say that , because it looks like the Packers had the worst O-line last year and Rodgers managed to go to the Pro Bowl.

Big Ben's O-line was the 2nd worst last year and he had a VERY SOLID year with 66.6 completion %, 4,328 yards, 26 TD's 12 INT's with a QB Rating of 100.5

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=true&conference=null&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&season=2009&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go

Touche, I'll give you that one. But what about the receivers ? & The coaching ? They all have those too. & What did the niners have ? No true #1 receiver before Crabtree. & He's not a solid #1 yet. In Smith's early years, he had who ? Arnaz Battle ? They had a couple good receivers tho, who bloomed AFTER they left. That shows bad coaching. Singletary was very stubborn with the running game. VD didn't bloom until last year. I'll give you the line in GB & Pitts. But they also have very good coaches & receivers. Plus Steelers have a good running game. & GB's line have been dominating this postseason, otherwise Starks wouldn't be running all over everyone like a mad man. Yeeah, Rodgers went to the pro bowl last year. But did he take them to the Super Bowl ? Nope. How about this year with a good line ? Yeuup. Like I said, a TEAM effort.

Oh I agree, it is a team effort but I just had to show you good QB's can overcome when everything around them isn't perfect but don't sit here and make it seem like the 49ers have not tried to build a solid core around Alex. They drafted Gore which turned out to be a Pro Bowler, behind the same O-line Alex played behind , They have Vernon who has came alive, they drafted the best WR in the draft in 2009, they spent BOTH 1st Rounders on O-linemen this past year with a total of 3 1st round O-linemen and two 2nd rounders so they are definitely making an effort but yet it still hasn't worked out.

So now we are down to two causes. Alex and Coaching and if you ask me, I think they both have sucked

Oh no, I definitely agree with the line. I honestly think that our line will be one of the best in the league in a couple years. It just seems that the RG is the only missing piece right now. & It's not something that's a DEFINITE need, yaknow ? Unless Rachal can get his act together. Cos Iupati looked great as a rookie. Staley & Baas were both solid. Only thing is that Staley got injured, again. & A lot of people bag on Davis, but he showed signs of being a good tackle. He was just a rookie, & it didn't help putting Rachal next to him.

With the coaching, it sucked too IMO. Singletary wasn't ready to be a HC yet. Cos he seemed like he would turn things around. In the beginning, he had that fiery attitude & the "I want winners !" thing. Our staff now seems like they can turn things around & make the niners a competitor again. But, we have to see what plays out on the field first.

Originally posted by BayStreamin510:

Originally posted by Sims84:

Originally posted by BayStreamin510:

Originally posted by Sims84:

Originally posted by BayStreamin510:

Originally posted by OregonNiner87:

Originally posted by BayStreamin510:

Originally posted by jones49:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
In 2006 it would have us take Rodgers #1...

2005

Do you HONESTLY think Rodgers would've done better if he was in Smith's situation ? Having to learn 6 or so different offenses, injured shoulder, terrible line, no good receivers to throw to. Rodgers had Favre to sit behind for 3 years, same offense his whole career, has a pro line, & one of the best receiving cores.

He certainly wouldn't be as bad as Alex Smith. Could you really argue he'd be anything worse than a top 15?

With a line like ours, of course. No QB can be good without a line. Look at Peyton, he usually never gets touched. & When he does, he screws up. Brady doesn't do well when his line doesn't do well either. You can't rely on a QB alone to determine whether or not he's good or not. Think about it this way. Every quarterback is good, otherwise they wouldn't be in the NFL right now. The reason why they are better than others is because of the players & coaches around them. It's a TEAM effort. Exactly why Alex, with the worse team, didn't so as well as Rodgers, with a very good line & receiving core, took them to the Super Bowl.

FAIL.

Interesting you say that , because it looks like the Packers had the worst O-line last year and Rodgers managed to go to the Pro Bowl.

Big Ben's O-line was the 2nd worst last year and he had a VERY SOLID year with 66.6 completion %, 4,328 yards, 26 TD's 12 INT's with a QB Rating of 100.5

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=true&conference=null&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&season=2009&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go

Touche, I'll give you that one. But what about the receivers ? & The coaching ? They all have those too. & What did the niners have ? No true #1 receiver before Crabtree. & He's not a solid #1 yet. In Smith's early years, he had who ? Arnaz Battle ? They had a couple good receivers tho, who bloomed AFTER they left. That shows bad coaching. Singletary was very stubborn with the running game. VD didn't bloom until last year. I'll give you the line in GB & Pitts. But they also have very good coaches & receivers. Plus Steelers have a good running game. & GB's line have been dominating this postseason, otherwise Starks wouldn't be running all over everyone like a mad man. Yeeah, Rodgers went to the pro bowl last year. But did he take them to the Super Bowl ? Nope. How about this year with a good line ? Yeuup. Like I said, a TEAM effort.

Oh I agree, it is a team effort but I just had to show you good QB's can overcome when everything around them isn't perfect but don't sit here and make it seem like the 49ers have not tried to build a solid core around Alex. They drafted Gore which turned out to be a Pro Bowler, behind the same O-line Alex played behind , They have Vernon who has came alive, they drafted the best WR in the draft in 2009, they spent BOTH 1st Rounders on O-linemen this past year with a total of 3 1st round O-linemen and two 2nd rounders so they are definitely making an effort but yet it still hasn't worked out.

So now we are down to two causes. Alex and Coaching and if you ask me, I think they both have sucked

Oh no, I definitely agree with the line. I honestly think that our line will be one of the best in the league in a couple years. It just seems that the RG is the only missing piece right now. & It's not something that's a DEFINITE need, yaknow ? Unless Rachal can get his act together. Cos Iupati looked great as a rookie. Staley & Baas were both solid. Only thing is that Staley got injured, again. & A lot of people bag on Davis, but he showed signs of being a good tackle. He was just a rookie, & it didn't help putting Rachal next to him.

With the coaching, it sucked too IMO. Singletary wasn't ready to be a HC yet. Cos he seemed like he would turn things around. In the beginning, he had that fiery attitude & the "I want winners !" thing. Our staff now seems like they can turn things around & make the niners a competitor again. But, we have to see what plays out on the field first.

I agree. Rachal was a "reach" when we drafted him, as was Balmer in that same year but I think he can better as well. Davis came on very strong towards the end of the season I expect him to build on that.

Staley is solid, not spectacular but good enough when healthy. Iupati will be a star for a very long time and Baas was pretty good holding down the fort. I actually think he will be re-signed and he will completely take over that center position.

I was exctited at first with Singletary but now I have noticed the 49ers do that quite often. Get me excited at changes only to bring me back down to reality.

- 2008 Mike Nolan gets fired, Singletary takes over team finishes strong.

-2008 JT O Sullivan gets benched, Shaun Hill takes over and team plays well to help Singletary get hired

-2009 Shaun Hill gets benched, Alex Smith takes over and plays well

-2010 Jimmy Raye gets fired, Mike Johnson takes over and team plays better

-2010 Alex Smith goes down, Troy Smith steps in and wins two straight and 3 of 5

-2010 Troy gets benched, Alex takes over and blows out the Seahawks

-2010 Mike Singletary gets fired, Jim Tomsula takes over and we blow out ARZ

So the 49ers are known for looking good after a change. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me 2,3,4,5 times? shame on me

Originally posted by SoCal9ers:

Originally posted by BayStreamin510:

Originally posted by jones49:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
In 2006 it would have us take Rodgers #1...

2005

Do you HONESTLY think Rodgers would've done better if he was in Smith's situation ? Having to learn 6 or so different offenses, injured shoulder, terrible line, no good receivers to throw to. Rodgers had Favre to sit behind for 3 years, same offense his whole career, has a pro line, & one of the best receiving cores.

honestly, HELL YEAH!!!
when you got it, you got it. Smith doesn't have it, sorry!

if only it was that simple.

I think I would draft Willis #1. Aside from the "a MLB would never go #1" he's the best player in that draft IMO. Thomas and Peterson are elite at their position and Johnson is awesome 2. However Willis will go down as one of the greats at his position and will be reveared IMO. Peterson fumbles too much and will get hurt, Thomas plays for Clev and Johnson plays for Det so there F'd.

P52!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That was a good draft class.

I remember being all about us drafting Griffin, Woodley or Harris. Willis alone made that draft a good one for us.

I also remember everyone knocking McCloughan for saying that he wouldve taken Bowe if Willis was gone. I guess he knew what he was talking about.

Originally posted by BayStreamin510:

Originally posted by SoCal9ers:

Originally posted by BayStreamin510:

Originally posted by jones49:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
In 2006 it would have us take Rodgers #1...

2005

Do you HONESTLY think Rodgers would've done better if he was in Smith's situation ? Having to learn 6 or so different offenses, injured shoulder, terrible line, no good receivers to throw to. Rodgers had Favre to sit behind for 3 years, same offense his whole career, has a pro line, & one of the best receiving cores.

honestly, HELL YEAH!!!
when you got it, you got it. Smith doesn't have it, sorry!

Think what you want. But remember this now that I said it. I wouldn't be surprised if Smith goes somewhere else, back ups for a couple years, & breaks out. He just needs the proper coaching & a better situation. I'm not saying he WILL be a great QB. I'm just saying that it's a good possibility. Same with Nate Davis.

Smith just doesn't look comfortable period! there are moment that he's look good but most of the time it's his inconsistency and accuracy that gets me. It don't take 7 years to develope and not throw the ball behind the WR or his happy feet ass to run out the pocket. if you have it you have it. you've already have to have it in your to hit receivers in stride!

He just doesn't have it!

Originally posted by Hopper:

Originally posted by SoCal9ers:

Originally posted by BayStreamin510:

Originally posted by jones49:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
In 2006 it would have us take Rodgers #1...

2005

Do you HONESTLY think Rodgers would've done better if he was in Smith's situation ? Having to learn 6 or so different offenses, injured shoulder, terrible line, no good receivers to throw to. Rodgers had Favre to sit behind for 3 years, same offense his whole career, has a pro line, & one of the best receiving cores.

honestly, HELL YEAH!!!
when you got it, you got it. Smith doesn't have it, sorry!

if only it was that simple.

can't believe there's so many Alex Smith lovers still!

Originally posted by SoCal9ers:

Originally posted by Hopper:

Originally posted by SoCal9ers:

Originally posted by BayStreamin510:

Originally posted by jones49:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
In 2006 it would have us take Rodgers #1...

2005

Do you HONESTLY think Rodgers would've done better if he was in Smith's situation ? Having to learn 6 or so different offenses, injured shoulder, terrible line, no good receivers to throw to. Rodgers had Favre to sit behind for 3 years, same offense his whole career, has a pro line, & one of the best receiving cores.

honestly, HELL YEAH!!!
when you got it, you got it. Smith doesn't have it, sorry!

if only it was that simple.

can't believe there's so many Alex Smith lovers still!

How is arguing that the 49ers were an unstable team/organization and therefore ANY QB that came in would have struggled/failed...some how equivalent to "Alex lovers."

That's the stupidest sht on the zone. It's so irritating. Just because someone says Rodgers may not have the same level of success in SF like he has with the Packers...doesnt mean the poster is an "Alex lover."

Get over it man seriously. No one is saying Rodgers would be as bad as Smith...but to act like we'd be in the Super Bowl is just dumb. I'm willing to bet my house and ENTIRE life savings that if Rodgers came here...he'd be a 15th-20th ranked QB. Better than Smith but not by much.

The biggest difference? Rodgers would have told the 49ers to fvck off and demanded a trade after year 4 of all the bullsht. Frankly, I wish that had happened instead...that way we wouldnt have waited until year 7 to revamp our organization with legit football people and coaches.

Originally posted by LambdaChi49:

Originally posted by SoCal9ers:

Originally posted by Hopper:

Originally posted by SoCal9ers:

Originally posted by BayStreamin510:

Originally posted by jones49:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
In 2006 it would have us take Rodgers #1...

2005

Do you HONESTLY think Rodgers would've done better if he was in Smith's situation ? Having to learn 6 or so different offenses, injured shoulder, terrible line, no good receivers to throw to. Rodgers had Favre to sit behind for 3 years, same offense his whole career, has a pro line, & one of the best receiving cores.

honestly, HELL YEAH!!!
when you got it, you got it. Smith doesn't have it, sorry!

if only it was that simple.

can't believe there's so many Alex Smith lovers still!

How is arguing that the 49ers were an unstable team/organization and therefore ANY QB that came in would have struggled/failed...some how equivalent to "Alex lovers."

That's the stupidest sht on the zone. It's so irritating. Just because someone says Rodgers may not have the same level of success in SF like he has with the Packers...doesnt mean the poster is an "Alex lover."

Get over it man seriously. No one is saying Rodgers would be as bad as Smith...but to act like we'd be in the Super Bowl is just dumb. I'm willing to bet my house and ENTIRE life savings that if Rodgers came here...he'd be a 15th-20th ranked QB. Better than Smith but not by much.

The biggest difference? Rodgers would have told the 49ers to fvck off and demanded a trade after year 4 of all the bullsht. Frankly, I wish that had happened instead...that way we wouldnt have waited until year 7 to revamp our organization with legit football people and coaches.

f**k nolan