MM responded to my ? on FB

Originally posted by iLL49er:
my question:

Matt, Please answer this: I know before Singletary even got the position of HC on this team, a local writer who's name I can't recall wrote a report that laid out the family man Singletary is how he didn't work the grinding hours that othe...r coaches do and he made time for his family.

Did Singletary as a HC work less hours than would normally require to do the job properly? If so, did that cause a lot of tension within the coaching staff and organization? It would be odd to see the HC leaving early while the assistants are sitting there working away.

Please comment



HIS RESPONSE:

Matt Maiocco Rah, it's my impression that Singletary did not spend as many hours at the office as the typical coach. I'm almost positive most of his assistant coaches -- certainly the carryover coaches -- did not think he had much to offer in the way of useful ideas. Jeff, teams generally do not allow playbooks to get out.

What does this mean?? Is he saying that Singletary actually allowed players or coaches to take the playbooks home?

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by iLL49er:
my question:

Matt, Please answer this: I know before Singletary even got the position of HC on this team, a local writer who's name I can't recall wrote a report that laid out the family man Singletary is how he didn't work the grinding hours that othe...r coaches do and he made time for his family.

Did Singletary as a HC work less hours than would normally require to do the job properly? If so, did that cause a lot of tension within the coaching staff and organization? It would be odd to see the HC leaving early while the assistants are sitting there working away.

Please comment



HIS RESPONSE:

Matt Maiocco Rah, it's my impression that Singletary did not spend as many hours at the office as the typical coach. I'm almost positive most of his assistant coaches -- certainly the carryover coaches -- did not think he had much to offer in the way of useful ideas. Jeff, teams generally do not allow playbooks to get out.

What does this mean?? Is he saying that Singletary actually allowed players or coaches to take the playbooks home?

The way I read it was that since teams dont allow the playbooks to leave the building, obviously Sing wasn't taking the work home with him. Therefore the hours that he put in at the office were the only hours he put in. I may be wrong but thats how I interpreted the response.

My big problem with this is that we have to wait for Sing to get fired for things like this to come out.

I know that reporters are dependent on access to the team to do their jobs, but they end up being so deeply embedded in the organization that they can end up as unpaid shills for the party line.

I really like MMs reporting, but I think the balance is a little off, and journalists have a responsibility to report on these things as they learn about them (not after the fact when it has become safe to do so).

Edit: I'm not saying I have an expectation that they'll "name names" or anything like that, but I really wish we could occasionally get an honest, even-handed piece about the perceived positives and negatives on members of the organization.

Originally posted by PopeyeJonesing:
My big problem with this is that we have to wait for Sing to get fired for things like this to come out.

I know that reporters are dependent on access to the team to do their jobs, but they end up being so deeply embedded in the organization that they can end up as unpaid shills for the party line.

I really like MMs reporting, but I think the balance is a little off, and journalists have a responsibility to report on these things as they learn about them (not after the fact when it has become safe to do so).

Edit: I'm not saying I have an expectation that they'll "name names" or anything like that, but I really wish we could occasionally get an honest, even-handed piece about the perceived positives and negatives on members of the organization.

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Originally posted by Gelb1472:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by iLL49er:
my question:

Matt, Please answer this: I know before Singletary even got the position of HC on this team, a local writer who's name I can't recall wrote a report that laid out the family man Singletary is how he didn't work the grinding hours that othe...r coaches do and he made time for his family.

Did Singletary as a HC work less hours than would normally require to do the job properly? If so, did that cause a lot of tension within the coaching staff and organization? It would be odd to see the HC leaving early while the assistants are sitting there working away.

Please comment



HIS RESPONSE:

Matt Maiocco Rah, it's my impression that Singletary did not spend as many hours at the office as the typical coach. I'm almost positive most of his assistant coaches -- certainly the carryover coaches -- did not think he had much to offer in the way of useful ideas. Jeff, teams generally do not allow playbooks to get out.

What does this mean?? Is he saying that Singletary actually allowed players or coaches to take the playbooks home?

The way I read it was that since teams dont allow the playbooks to leave the building, obviously Sing wasn't taking the work home with him. Therefore the hours that he put in at the office were the only hours he put in. I may be wrong but thats how I interpreted the response.

that's definitely wrong. players take home playbooks and study them at home all the time.

Originally posted by PopeyeJonesing:
My big problem with this is that we have to wait for Sing to get fired for things like this to come out.

I know that reporters are dependent on access to the team to do their jobs, but they end up being so deeply embedded in the organization that they can end up as unpaid shills for the party line.

I really like MMs reporting, but I think the balance is a little off, and journalists have a responsibility to report on these things as they learn about them (not after the fact when it has become safe to do so).

Edit: I'm not saying I have an expectation that they'll "name names" or anything like that, but I really wish we could occasionally get an honest, even-handed piece about the perceived positives and negatives on members of the organization.

I think many people on this forum knew about this before Singletary was fired.

IIRC, Singletary said it himself. He spends less hours in the office so he can spend more hours with his family.

That said, I agree with the point of your post. There are two different kinds of sports media, though. Maiocco and Barrows are "fact" based reporters and have to worry about libel (written slander) and perceived bias. Cohn and Kawakami are opinion columns and they weren't exactly soft.

At least that's my understanding... I could be wrong.

Originally posted by Envy:
Ah Singletary hating. Never gets old.

It's not hating when discussing faults.

People need to learn the definition of that word. Seriously.

Originally posted by AJ_Larrea954:
his response:

umm ahhhh were gonna have to watch the film

But, apparently, he never bothered to look at the film, as he always suggested he would have to do.

No surprise there.

Originally posted by PopeyeJonesing:
My big problem with this is that we have to wait for Sing to get fired for things like this to come out.

I know that reporters are dependent on access to the team to do their jobs, but they end up being so deeply embedded in the organization that they can end up as unpaid shills for the party line.

I really like MMs reporting, but I think the balance is a little off, and journalists have a responsibility to report on these things as they learn about them (not after the fact when it has become safe to do so).

Edit: I'm not saying I have an expectation that they'll "name names" or anything like that, but I really wish we could occasionally get an honest, even-handed piece about the perceived positives and negatives on members of the organization.

As I've said before, Maiocco is about as close to being employed by the 49ers as you can get without actually being employed by the 49ers.

What you're looking for is in the writing of a columnist, not a beat writer. Maiocco depends on his good standing with the team to get the information he needs to do his job. Columnists, like Tim Kawakami, can write whatever they want, but they also aren't as "in the know" as someone like Maiocco.

Rest assured, if Kawakami or Cohn or Killion or any other columnist allowed to write about anything they choose were to have caught wind of this, it would have been written about long ago. It also would be followed with an uproar of "he/she's just hating" and "he/she's just an idiot trying to stir the pot" responses here on the webzone. If it's not optimistic, it's not accepted around here.

mike sing = good guy, leader

but he was obviously not a good HC

thats pretty much it

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
'Mike get your spoon out of my soup. Go home. Have dinner with your family. You have nothing to offer here.'

Yeah, go f**k your wife instead of the team.

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by PopeyeJonesing:
My big problem with this is that we have to wait for Sing to get fired for things like this to come out.

I know that reporters are dependent on access to the team to do their jobs, but they end up being so deeply embedded in the organization that they can end up as unpaid shills for the party line.

I really like MMs reporting, but I think the balance is a little off, and journalists have a responsibility to report on these things as they learn about them (not after the fact when it has become safe to do so).

Edit: I'm not saying I have an expectation that they'll "name names" or anything like that, but I really wish we could occasionally get an honest, even-handed piece about the perceived positives and negatives on members of the organization.

As I've said before, Maiocco is about as close to being employed by the 49ers as you can get without actually being employed by the 49ers.

What you're looking for is in the writing of a columnist, not a beat writer. Maiocco depends on his good standing with the team to get the information he needs to do his job. Columnists, like Tim Kawakami, can write whatever they want, but they also aren't as "in the know" as someone like Maiocco.

Rest assured, if Kawakami or Cohn or Killion or any other columnist allowed to write about anything they choose were to have caught wind of this, it would have been written about long ago. It also would be followed with an uproar of "he/she's just hating" and "he/she's just an idiot trying to stir the pot" responses here on the webzone. If it's not optimistic, it's not accepted around here.

Absolutely right! I think new coaches get a honeymoon period but once that's done, everything is fair game. Definitely Kawakami or Cohn would jump to report something disfunctional with York's team. Which is a good thing if they actually learn something from it.

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by iLL49er:
my question:

Matt, Please answer this: I know before Singletary even got the position of HC on this team, a local writer who's name I can't recall wrote a report that laid out the family man Singletary is how he didn't work the grinding hours that othe...r coaches do and he made time for his family.

Did Singletary as a HC work less hours than would normally require to do the job properly? If so, did that cause a lot of tension within the coaching staff and organization? It would be odd to see the HC leaving early while the assistants are sitting there working away.

Please comment



HIS RESPONSE:

Matt Maiocco Rah, it's my impression that Singletary did not spend as many hours at the office as the typical coach. I'm almost positive most of his assistant coaches -- certainly the carryover coaches -- did not think he had much to offer in the way of useful ideas. Jeff, teams generally do not allow playbooks to get out.

What does this mean?? Is he saying that Singletary actually allowed players or coaches to take the playbooks home?

MM is responding to two different questions: One asked by "Rah" and another asked by "Jeff." OP left out some info.

Originally posted by Natewillis2252:

Originally posted by PopeyeJonesing:
My big problem with this is that we have to wait for Sing to get fired for things like this to come out.

I know that reporters are dependent on access to the team to do their jobs, but they end up being so deeply embedded in the organization that they can end up as unpaid shills for the party line.

I really like MMs reporting, but I think the balance is a little off, and journalists have a responsibility to report on these things as they learn about them (not after the fact when it has become safe to do so).

Edit: I'm not saying I have an expectation that they'll "name names" or anything like that, but I really wish we could occasionally get an honest, even-handed piece about the perceived positives and negatives on members of the organization.

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Originally posted by AJ_Larrea954:
his response:

umm ahhhh were gonna have to watch the film

What an idiot...