Okay, now just imagine for a second that we drafted Jackson instead of Balmer (but still picked up Chilo Rachal).
Then we pick up Oher instead of crabtree, but we also grab Dez Bryant instead of A. Davis. Top that off with McCluster/Arinas at some point during the draft instead of say Bowman/Mays (niether are playing anyway).
With those players would we be a better team since we could run around and away from people instead of trying to line-up and run everybody over?
Your Thoughts?
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Dec 10, 2010 at 11:48 AM
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Dec 10, 2010 at 11:52 AM
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The current coaching staff would never play D. Jackson even if we had him because he can't block.
Dec 10, 2010 at 11:58 AM
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Originally posted by glorydayz:
Okay, now just imagine for a second that we drafted Jackson instead of Balmer (but still picked up Chilo Rachal).
Then we pick up Oher instead of crabtree, but we also grab Dez Bryant instead of A. Davis. Top that off with McCluster/Arinas at some point during the draft instead of say Bowman/Mays (niether are playing anyway).
With those players would we be a better team since we could run around and away from people instead of trying to line-up and run everybody over?
Your Thoughts?
Blah Blah Blah...Jackson wouldnt be what he is now in our offense and the rest is just irrelevant until we change our overall philosophy.
Dec 10, 2010 at 12:00 PM
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This goes nicely with the thread about our crappy corners! Speed kills in the modern NFL!
Dec 10, 2010 at 12:01 PM
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Originally posted by Sjceruti:Originally posted by glorydayz:
Okay, now just imagine for a second that we drafted Jackson instead of Balmer (but still picked up Chilo Rachal).
Then we pick up Oher instead of crabtree, but we also grab Dez Bryant instead of A. Davis. Top that off with McCluster/Arinas at some point during the draft instead of say Bowman/Mays (niether are playing anyway).
With those players would we be a better team since we could run around and away from people instead of trying to line-up and run everybody over?
Your Thoughts?
Blah Blah Blah...Jackson wouldnt be what he is now in our offense and the rest is just irrelevant until we change our overall philosophy.
A lot of people said the same thing about Philly's offense the day they drafted him. With his speed, I believe he would be effective in any offense.
Dec 10, 2010 at 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by glorydayz:Originally posted by Sjceruti:Originally posted by glorydayz:
Okay, now just imagine for a second that we drafted Jackson instead of Balmer (but still picked up Chilo Rachal).
Then we pick up Oher instead of crabtree, but we also grab Dez Bryant instead of A. Davis. Top that off with McCluster/Arinas at some point during the draft instead of say Bowman/Mays (niether are playing anyway).
With those players would we be a better team since we could run around and away from people instead of trying to line-up and run everybody over?
Your Thoughts?
Blah Blah Blah...Jackson wouldnt be what he is now in our offense and the rest is just irrelevant until we change our overall philosophy.
A lot of people said the same thing about Philly's offense the day they drafted him. With his speed, I believe he would be effective in any offense.
How? Philly has always been a passing team with mostly speed guys. We on the other hand struggle to throw a fade.
Dec 10, 2010 at 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by Sjceruti:Originally posted by glorydayz:Originally posted by Sjceruti:Originally posted by glorydayz:
Okay, now just imagine for a second that we drafted Jackson instead of Balmer (but still picked up Chilo Rachal).
Then we pick up Oher instead of crabtree, but we also grab Dez Bryant instead of A. Davis. Top that off with McCluster/Arinas at some point during the draft instead of say Bowman/Mays (niether are playing anyway).
With those players would we be a better team since we could run around and away from people instead of trying to line-up and run everybody over?
Your Thoughts?
Blah Blah Blah...Jackson wouldnt be what he is now in our offense and the rest is just irrelevant until we change our overall philosophy.
A lot of people said the same thing about Philly's offense the day they drafted him. With his speed, I believe he would be effective in any offense.
How? Philly has always been a passing team with mostly speed guys. We on the other hand struggle to throw a fade.
What WR's did Mcnabb have outside of T.O since he was the starter in Philly? These are probably the best WR's Philly has ever had.
Dec 10, 2010 at 12:12 PM
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Originally posted by glorydayz:Originally posted by Sjceruti:Originally posted by glorydayz:Originally posted by Sjceruti:Originally posted by glorydayz:
Okay, now just imagine for a second that we drafted Jackson instead of Balmer (but still picked up Chilo Rachal).
Then we pick up Oher instead of crabtree, but we also grab Dez Bryant instead of A. Davis. Top that off with McCluster/Arinas at some point during the draft instead of say Bowman/Mays (niether are playing anyway).
With those players would we be a better team since we could run around and away from people instead of trying to line-up and run everybody over?
Your Thoughts?
Blah Blah Blah...Jackson wouldnt be what he is now in our offense and the rest is just irrelevant until we change our overall philosophy.
A lot of people said the same thing about Philly's offense the day they drafted him. With his speed, I believe he would be effective in any offense.
How? Philly has always been a passing team with mostly speed guys. We on the other hand struggle to throw a fade.
What WR's did Mcnabb have outside of T.O since he was the starter in Philly? These are probably the best WR's Philly has ever had.
That's irrelevant. Im questioning how D Jack wasnt a good fit there. They throw the ball like 70 percent of the time. It's was a great fit when he was drafted and still is now.
Dec 10, 2010 at 12:12 PM
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Originally posted by glorydayz:Originally posted by Sjceruti:Originally posted by glorydayz:
Okay, now just imagine for a second that we drafted Jackson instead of Balmer (but still picked up Chilo Rachal).
Then we pick up Oher instead of crabtree, but we also grab Dez Bryant instead of A. Davis. Top that off with McCluster/Arinas at some point during the draft instead of say Bowman/Mays (niether are playing anyway).
With those players would we be a better team since we could run around and away from people instead of trying to line-up and run everybody over?
Your Thoughts?
Blah Blah Blah...Jackson wouldnt be what he is now in our offense and the rest is just irrelevant until we change our overall philosophy.
A lot of people said the same thing about Philly's offense the day they drafted him. With his speed, I believe he would be effective in any offense.
We have Ginn, yet he only plays a handful of snaps on offense. What makes you think that Jackson would be doing any better here?
I think it goes back to the overall philosophy rather than individual talent.
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Dec 10, 2010 at 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:Originally posted by glorydayz:Originally posted by Sjceruti:Originally posted by glorydayz:
Okay, now just imagine for a second that we drafted Jackson instead of Balmer (but still picked up Chilo Rachal).
Then we pick up Oher instead of crabtree, but we also grab Dez Bryant instead of A. Davis. Top that off with McCluster/Arinas at some point during the draft instead of say Bowman/Mays (niether are playing anyway).
With those players would we be a better team since we could run around and away from people instead of trying to line-up and run everybody over?
Your Thoughts?
Blah Blah Blah...Jackson wouldnt be what he is now in our offense and the rest is just irrelevant until we change our overall philosophy.
A lot of people said the same thing about Philly's offense the day they drafted him. With his speed, I believe he would be effective in any offense.
We have Ginn, yet he only plays a handful of snaps on offense. What makes you think that Jackson would be doing any better here?
I think it goes back to the overall philosophy rather than individual talent.
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Ginn couldn't hold Jackson's Jock strap! That is like comparing a donkey to a stallion!
Dec 10, 2010 at 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by NinerGM:Originally posted by glorydayz:
Okay, now just imagine for a second that we drafted Jackson instead of Balmer (but still picked up Chilo Rachal).
Then we pick up Oher instead of crabtree, but we also grab Dez Bryant instead of A. Davis. Top that off with McCluster/Arinas at some point during the draft instead of say Bowman/Mays (niether are playing anyway).
With those players would we be a better team since we could run around and away from people instead of trying to line-up and run everybody over?
Your Thoughts?
I think there's a difference between combine speed and football speed (eg Jason Hill). Overall on paper, the team has good speed. Do they play that fast? Absolutely not. I remember reading an article that McCloughan still had the 40 times of all the players he drafted. I don't that was the question about their speed - were they good football players was the question which is why nearly all of McCloughans picks and free-agents either took forever to develop or downright failed.
Great post, I didn't think about that...
Dec 10, 2010 at 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by Sjceruti:Originally posted by glorydayz:
Okay, now just imagine for a second that we drafted Jackson instead of Balmer (but still picked up Chilo Rachal).
Then we pick up Oher instead of crabtree, but we also grab Dez Bryant instead of A. Davis. Top that off with McCluster/Arinas at some point during the draft instead of say Bowman/Mays (niether are playing anyway).
With those players would we be a better team since we could run around and away from people instead of trying to line-up and run everybody over?
Your Thoughts?
Blah Blah Blah...Jackson wouldnt be what he is now in our offense and the rest is just irrelevant until we change our overall philosophy.
but that's his point!
Dec 10, 2010 at 1:47 PM
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Originally posted by asakkings:
The current coaching staff would never play D. Jackson even if we had him because he can't block.
This so perfectly illustrates how Singletary has handcuffed and held this team back.
As a player he was a lion, as coach he is a chihuahua.
Dec 10, 2010 at 1:59 PM
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Jackson is a fragile little woman, he would get crushed in a smash mouth offense. There are at least 10 receivers I would rather have on my team than that primadonna. I will always remember him for the play where he was showboating on a breakaway touchdown and dropped the ball before he crossed the goal line...what a total dumbass.
[ Edited by Memphis9er on Dec 10, 2010 at 2:01 PM ]
Dec 10, 2010 at 2:01 PM
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