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Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by BobS:
Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
Causing the chain effect... who made the first bad decision?

I was all downhill after Eddie D tried to get that river boat casino license. The Yorks haven't done anything right.

LOL - It's funny to me that everyone finds fault in the Yorks but not in Eddie for trying to do something shady. I completely disagree that the Yorks have done all wrong. People weren't saying that when Garcia, Owens and company beat the Giants in OT at Candlestick.

After which, the Dorks promptly got rid of them, fired Mariucci, brought on Donahue and Erickson...oh yeah, they've been great! That was 8 years ago---c'mon man...
Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
Causing the chain effect... who made the first bad decision?

Dude leave Eddie D out of this. Okay he made a mistake with who he was friends with lol
Originally posted by wailers15:
Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
Causing the chain effect... who made the first bad decision?

Dude leave Eddie D out of this. Okay he made a mistake with who he was friends with lol

Is that right? He could have sold the team---it was worth a fortune then...instead, he gave it to his in-bred moron sister, he equally stupid husband, and then her son. The value of the franchise has reportedly dropped in value over 70%. Eddie D, while a great owner, does not deserve a pass on this topic...
Originally posted by FL9er:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3177670

In hindsight, the 49ers should have done what they're going to do in a month, 3 years ago.

fire Sing?
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by Bobbi9698:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by BobS:
Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
Causing the chain effect... who made the first bad decision?

I was all downhill after Eddie D tried to get that river boat casino license. The Yorks haven't done anything right.

LOL - It's funny to me that everyone finds fault in the Yorks but not in Eddie for trying to do something shady. I completely disagree that the Yorks have done all wrong. People weren't saying that when Garcia, Owens and company beat the Giants in OT at Candlestick.



Again dude this simply isn't true AT ALL.

Who was team consultant then turned GM at the time Mariucci was fired? The Yorks didn't know any football people and asked said consultant/GM to bring in a replacement and then have that replacement bring in a HC. Who was that person?

Just sayin...

From the San Francisco Chronicle in 2003:
York explains break with Mariucci / 49ers' owner says coach wasn't on same page with front office
March 24, 2003|By Ira Miller

In the two months since he fired Steve Mariucci as coach of the 49ers and the one month since he hired Dennis Erickson to replace him, John York's stewardship of the franchise has taken more hits than many Web sites.

York acknowledged Sunday that some of his critics were correct.

He admitted that he should have handled the transition better and that he erred in not making the announcement of Mariucci's dismissal personally, instead leaving general manager Terry Donahue to face reporters and explain it.

After which, the Dorks promptly got rid of them, fired Mariucci, brought on Donahue and Erickson...oh yeah, they've been great! That was 8 years ago---c'mon man...
[ Edited by Bobbi9698 on Dec 7, 2010 at 1:55 PM ]
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
And people wonder why I want the Niners to go down in humiliating fashion each week, until we dump Singletary. This article shares that the team stuck with Mike Nolan for one more year, despite finishing with a 5-11 record in 2008. YIKES!!!!!!

Here was what Papa York said at the time:
"Mike had recognition and solutions to these problems that were completely acceptable to us, and we moved forward from there," York said.

Of course, we know the wisdom of that move, as we canned Nolan mid-year in 2009.

Only more thorough, embarrassing, humiliating, debilitating defeats can give me some hope that the team will not retain Singletary in 2011. Give me a 4-14 team that limps badly at the finish line, and I'll give you hope that the management feels no other option but to dump him. I still have a stinking suspicion that he will survive if he can win 3 of the next 4 or even the last two games. Call me paranoid, but once was enough. The same pattern of chaos with Nolan is repeating itself with Singletary.

5-11 in 2007

Nolan got canned in 2008

It is currently 2010, lol

Agree w/ Mad Dog. It would be a catastrophe if we won enough games for Jed to keep Sing. He is a total disaster. If he stays next season we are doomed. Look what TBay, KC, Detroit and even the Rams are doing with good coaching. I hope we lose the rest of our games and get a top-tier QB. Lose today and win tomorrow.
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Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by BobS:
Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
Causing the chain effect... who made the first bad decision?

I was all downhill after Eddie D tried to get that river boat casino license. The Yorks haven't done anything right.

LOL - It's funny to me that everyone finds fault in the Yorks but not in Eddie for trying to do something shady. I completely disagree that the Yorks have done all wrong. People weren't saying that when Garcia, Owens and company beat the Giants in OT at Candlestick.


Those were hold over players and coaches from the Eddie D era, the Yorks get no credit for that win, one game later they put their stamp on the franchise by canning Mooch.
Only reason Nolan got another shot in 2008 was because John York felt bad for Nolan when his daddy had passed away (and his dad's history to the franchise).

Expect Sing to get fired January 3rd, Jed isn't as stupid as we think (compared to his parents), he knows Singletary has single-handedly pushed back the stadium proposal to 2015. Heck take the stadium away, Jed is the same guy who punched in a wall (in the owner's box) during that loss to the Eagles in 2008 (the day Nolan's ass was canned).
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by FL9er:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3177670

In hindsight, the 49ers should have done what they're going to do in a month, 3 years ago.

fire Sing?

Clean House. Fire the HC. Hire a GM from outside the organization. Hire a new HC.
Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
Causing the chain effect... who made the first bad decision?

*nod of agreement*

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
And people wonder why I want the Niners to go down in humiliating fashion each week, until we dump Singletary. This article shares that the team stuck with Mike Nolan for one more year, despite finishing with a 5-11 record in 2008. YIKES!!!!!!

Here was what Papa York said at the time:
"Mike had recognition and solutions to these problems that were completely acceptable to us, and we moved forward from there," York said.

Of course, we know the wisdom of that move, as we canned Nolan mid-year in 2009.

Only more thorough, embarrassing, humiliating, debilitating defeats can give me some hope that the team will not retain Singletary in 2011. Give me a 4-14 team that limps badly at the finish line, and I'll give you hope that the management feels no other option but to dump him. I still have a stinking suspicion that he will survive if he can win 3 of the next 4 or even the last two games. Call me paranoid, but once was enough. The same pattern of chaos with Nolan is repeating itself with Singletary.

I think that Jed's actually learned from his experience with Nolan. He's realizing that sticking with Singletary until the end of the season will:

A. Not require an interim coach bumped up from a coordinator ie. Manusky which could result in losing them.

B. Open up more possibilities once we reach the off-season. I bet there are several coaches who are eagerly awaiting for Singlebraincell's head to roll, the ditch their team/current engagement ie. Mike Holmgren, John Gruden, Jim Harbaugh. They're a damn sight better as options than hiring from within. We need a general who can change things from the top, not a glorified foot soldier like Singlebraincell. Firing him in mid-season to motivate an interim coach to try and win the job, winning a few meaningless games...not the way to go.
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