What we lost last night...

Originally posted by VA9erfan:
Isn't Luck a Junior?

Yes, and he hasn't declared yet

Harbaugh and Luck can stay another year to make a run for a National Title

From 1997 -2007 there have been 39 QBs selected in the first Round. Here are the Busts:

Jim Druckenmiller (Still hurts)
Ryna Leaf
Tim Couch
Akili Smith
Cade McNown
David Carr (You could argue that he had a few good years for Houston, but he faded FAST)
Joey Harrington
Patrick Ramsey
Byron Leftwich
Kyle Boller
Rex Grossman
J.P. Losman
Alex Smith (Yup, no more arguments)
Jason Campbell (You could argue his numbers, but he has never been a franchise guy)
Vince Young
Matt Leinart
Jamarcus Russell
Brady Quinn

That's 18 out of 39 QBs that busted in the first round. Most of those guys didn't even last in the LEAGUE.

The other 11:
Peyton Manning (HOFer)
Donovan McNabb (Possible HOFer)
Daunte Culpepper (Had a few good years in Minn. He almost belongs in the other column)
Chad Pennington (Servicable player with injury issues)
Michael Vick (Revitalizing career)
Carson Palmer (Solid starter that has been fading lately)
Eli Manning (Won a Super Bowl and only looks bad when compared to big bro)
Philip Rivers (Damn fine competitor and having a great season)
Ben Roethlisberger (Just keep your daughters locked up!)
Aaron Rodgers (Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda...)
Jay Cutler (Gun slinger having a bounce back year. His spot on this list is still very shaky)

That is a terrible success ratio. Pinning your hopes on "Luck" is always a gamble.

Originally posted by Rulo:
Besides loosing our Best offensive weapon for the season, we lost something else, something huge!!, ..... we lost on the oportunity of getting one of the best QB prospects in a very long time... and not only that. We put him in a silver plate to our division rival...

If Arizona looses out, (wouldnt be shocked), they will be most certainly 1st or 2nd overall, and will for sure take Andrew Luck, that would mean for the next 10-15 years the NFC West will be owned by the Rams and Cards, and we will be watching from home year after year.... it is not looking good at all!!

Not every top prospect turns out to be great. He could be a complete bust. There are other QB's in the draft. Plenty have tons of talent. Luck may not even turn out to be the best in that draft. It could be Locker, Ponder, Mallet, Foles, Stanzi, Enderle, Devlin, Kaepernick, or even some very late round QB that is the best. We will have a shot atany of these guys in multiple rounds.

I could care less about who gets him.I just want whatever QB we do get to have the proper coaching around him so we don't have another Drunkenmiller or Smith situation happen. This is one of the deepest classes ever I believe and any one of them could turn out to be great!

[ Edited by ace8016 on Dec 5, 2010 at 13:36:49 ]

AND....

Seriously, I think those missed fields last night will destroy our chances of having a winning decade in the 2020s. There's this 10-year-old kid who plays pop warner who is likely to be a future hall of famer; his best friends dad is Shane Andrus. He'll hold a grudge for the Niners not extending him to the next game and decline workouts with the Niners before the 2022 draft.

its all good... They can take luck... we will have Harbaugh who will know how to gameplan against his ass and make his Rookie year a living hell for him....

Originally posted by 9erred:
I would trade the #1 in 2011, the number 1 in 2012 and a second rounder to move up to #1 to select Luck. If number 1 is carolina they might take that package because they have so many holes, and if they think Notre Dame second round pick jimmy clausen is their man of the future.

I would also risk it who cares were we finish if we like luck then lets get luck.

Originally posted by obx49:

Originally posted by RedWaltz24:
What I lost last night was my fantasy game for that week and my fantasy season.

LOL, Same thing happened to me. I was 14 pts behind with Gore, Vernon, and Fitz left to play and I ended up getting 11 points for all three combined. I lost and my fantasy season is done...

Not laughing, but down by 20 had Troy and Willis lost by 4. Fantasy over

We lost Frank Gore, that is the only loss we should be concerned with at all. Who says Luck is going to be a sure thing at all? If he ends up on a bad team, he could have his career ruined like our #1 pick did. College talent doesn't always translate to the NFL.

A lot of thing are going to happen between now and the draft. Player are going to move up and down. Plus Luck could stay in school.

Originally posted by pannin4gold:
AND....

Seriously, I think those missed fields last night will destroy our chances of having a winning decade in the 2020s. There's this 10-year-old kid who plays pop warner who is likely to be a future hall of famer; his best friends dad is Shane Andrus. He'll hold a grudge for the Niners not extending him to the next game and decline workouts with the Niners before the 2022 draft.

oooooooooh Sarcasm!!!, I thought that was not used anymore..... you are a really funny guy!!

Originally posted by Gavintech:

Originally posted by 9erred:

Originally posted by Gavintech:

Originally posted by 9erred:
I would trade the #1 in 2011, the number 1 in 2012 and a second rounder to move up to #1 to select Luck.

Good thing you are not in the FO.

Look at the value chart, that is equivalent to the San Diego Eli Manning deal and the Michael Vick deal for the number one pick.

Not trying to re invent the wheel, simply admitting we need a franchise qb.

I don't give a s**t about the value chart. You make that kind of trade if you're already a good team, and all you're missing is a QB and you are 100% sure that the only QB that can help you is that one guy. That's far from the 49ers situation. The 49ers need a BIG improvement in the OL and 2ndary (and to a lesser extent the passrush). I'd much rather over-pay a FA QB than give away high picks in the next few drafts when we are not nearly just a QB away from being a real contender.

Also, look at the top 15 QBs in the NFL today (by passer rating). Some weren't drafted at all, one was a 6th round pick, a couple 4th rounders, a 3rd rounder, some 2nd rounders, and even though there are a lot of first rounders the vast majority were not the #1 overall pick or even the first QB taken in the draft. It's not a prerequisite to be the first QB in the draft to be a top QB. Conversely if you look 15 and beyond you see a lot of first round QBs, 1st QB taken in the draft, and even a few #1 overall draft picks.

OL, are you frickin kidding me, the niners have used the most top 40 picks on OL of ANY team in the NFL. A good qb will make the OL play much better. Look at the Saints, Colts and Falcons OL. A bunch of no names because the D has to respect the QB.

If, and I mean IF, they deem Luck will be the next Ryan, Brady or Peyton, then the trade makes sense. Otherwise I am fine with Locker.

Don't worry about it, Lucks not coming out anyways.

[ Edited by mayo49 on Nov 30, 2010 at 15:26:01 ]

OMG Luck might not even declare!!!!!! Even if we did have the number one pick what assurance do we have he is declaring their is no guarantee he is.

You people are going nuts about Luck jeez....


Just calm down, I'm sure if we lost most people would be freaking depressed right now, lets take this win and go from there...

Oh no, I sound like Dingle

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
OH STFU WITH THAT CRAP

You guys were singing the same tune about Lienart before he came out of college.

and Reggie Bush
and Jake Locker last year
and on and on and on...

This league is all about QBs and I'd love Luck as much as anybody. But he's not in the Hall of Fame just yet. It's high time everyone take a deep breath and realize a prospect is just that. In the words of the immortal Chris Farley, he may never amount to Jack Squat.