Barbeiri Destroying singletary on NBC, VD didn't back up his HC

and actually Ralph said he would either look like a buffoon or a genius. Ralph gave himself a way out just in case Singletary started winning, and now that it looks like Singletary is down and out, Ralph is piling on.

Originally posted by PlasmaHero:

Originally posted by Apone:

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Originally posted by DynastyChile:

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Originally posted by Natewillis2252:
wow simply amazing lol......gotta love 49er fans

yeah its embarassing. I guarantee its not half as bad as thread starter acts like it is, but people are so giddy to see another grown man get insulted you have to wonder whats happenin in their world.

dude, he is coaching our team to a 2-6 record, probably en route to a 5-6 win season.

I dont want him to get insulted, i dont want him to get embarrassed, i dont want him to die, i dont want him to be sad, i just him to get fired so we can start winning games. That is it. how is this so hard to figure out?

why do fans think its as simple as "We have a bad record, so our coach must suck" Is that easier than rewatching the games and pinpointing the problems?

He absolutely sucks. The lack of experience, the lack maturity, is conspicuous every week. The guy has a TOTAL coaching experience of 6 years. He gets out coached on a weekly basis. Clueless about X's and O's. He is content on running an ancient archaic offense that would make the creators of techmo bowl proud-and it wouldn't matter if it was Raye, Johnson, or Walsh as the OC-it's his offense. Terrible personal decisions-from not challenging Smith, to trading Hill to getting Carr, to letting Crabtree take the preseason off, and the list goes on. Worst start since 1979, he should be blamed for it and be fired.

It's not about how you start, its about how you finish, and every head coach has to learn eventually. Or did you not know about Beliciek's stint with the Browns? If you didn't want him fired at the start of the season, why would you want him fired after we make it to the playoffs for the first time in 8 seasons? It doesn't make sense, and I guarantee you, despite the harsh feelings for Singletary right now by some vocal fans, it would be a PR NIGHTMARE if the Niners were to reach the playoffs and Singletary were to be fired.

Not to mention, alot of the stuff you're throwing in your post Singletary didn't have anything to do with. It was Mcloughan that traded Hill, and signed David Carr. And Crabtree was injured, so I'm not sure how you can blame him for that.

As for ancient, archaic offense, what are you talking about? It's a RUN based offense. It's obvious that Niner fans aren't used to it because we've primarily used the pass to set up the run the last 30 years, but guess what? When your best player is a Running back, and one of your worst players is a Quarterback, its not exactly Smart to have a pass based offense. You can't constantly bash Alex Smith all the time, and then turn around and say "Oh and its the coaching for running a conservative offense" Well that's how you limit turnovers and mistakes.. Its not pretty, but its NECESSARY. Sorta like the way our corners play 8-10 yards off the ball because our corners aren't quick enough to keep up with the speedy receivers that this league has. Sure its not pretty, but its NECESSARY. No fan likes their team losing, but its frustrating to hear 'fire the coaches' from fans everytime something doesn't go their way, if a franchise was run based on what the fans wanted, it would be the most unstable train wreck of an organization that ever existed, because fans dont seem to know how to exert patience. They want everything to come together Immediately, and if it doesn't, then Scrap everything and start over again.
It's not a huge surprise that both of our wins have come when the Quarterback didn't turn the ball over. Dont you think its more prudent to see how Singletary does with a QB that knows how to take care of the ball?
I think you take for granted the unity, effort, and accountability that Singletary has built here with the Niners in his short time. All you have to do is look at the Cowboys to see what a team looks like without a head coach that is respected and listened to. Three consecutive blowouts. That is a team that has stopped responding to its coach. As Vernon Davis said "The players still listen to him"
Think about that. Players aren't blind to what writers, and fans have to say. You call him a moron, you call him Dingleberry, you make fun of his cross and snide remarks about his religion (not You specifically I'm addressing but its obviously been said), and yet despite all that AND a losing record, the team is still following him into the battlefield. Please dont discount that. Leadership is the most important thing a head coach can bring, not Xs and Os.

I stop reading when you remotely made an attempt to compare and contrast Sing and his situation with Belichick. Belichick was a successful assistant coach for nearly two decades, winning a super bowl ring as a DC coordinator with Giants in the 80's, before he became the Browns HC. He wasn't out of the league for over a decade, nor did he get his first crack at a coaching position based on being a motivational speaker. And it's now how you start really???? Last time I check the only team to make the playoffs after an 0-4 start was the 1992 San Diego Chargers. 0-3..only 3 teams.

Originally posted by Method:
Was pretty freaking hilarious. Ralph was s**tting all over singletary... Has no experience to be a head coach, has never even been a coordinator, just done a terrible job. All VD said was singleary's like a father figure to him and players still listen. Lol.

VD probably agrees with Ralph.

Btw this was on NBC sports Sunday, VD was guest host and they were talking with Ralph.

Interesting take on the interview.

I also watched it last night. It was very clear from the begining ( before Ralph the mouth) that Davis was very uncomfortable in front of the camera. He only spoke in very short sentences and would rarely make eye contact with Raj or the camera. He kept looking down.

Anyway, Davis specifically said to Ralph, "Sing is like a father to me." In other words, STFU, what do you want me to say? I think his lack of passion came more from stage fright than anything else. Raj even kind of apologized to Davis at the end of the exchange.

Originally posted by FourNine49:

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:

Originally posted by susweel:
Ralph is a douche.

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Originally posted by FourNine49:

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:

Originally posted by susweel:
Ralph is a douche.

What's worse is he's an ugly douche with a high voice. Not that I can tell but if I had to guess, I would slot him in the ugly category.

Originally posted by sdaddy101269:

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by PlasmaHero:

Originally posted by DynastyChile:

Originally posted by PlasmaHero:

Originally posted by Natewillis2252:
wow simply amazing lol......gotta love 49er fans

yeah its embarassing. I guarantee its not half as bad as thread starter acts like it is, but people are so giddy to see another grown man get insulted you have to wonder whats happenin in their world.

dude, he is coaching our team to a 2-6 record, probably en route to a 5-6 win season.

I dont want him to get insulted, i dont want him to get embarrassed, i dont want him to die, i dont want him to be sad, i just him to get fired so we can start winning games. That is it. how is this so hard to figure out?

why do fans think its as simple as "We have a bad record, so our coach must suck" Is that easier than rewatching the games and pinpointing the problems?

But we already did that and decided he WAS the problem.

I thought we decided it was out turnover prone QB that was the problem? Seems to me, when we don't turn it over we win. Agree?

Whose dumbass decision was it to put the turnover prone QB out there or not have a legit back up plan?

I do not consider Barbieri to be a very knowledgeable football guy. He is far too emotional and not at all analytical. No one in the Bay Area market is so opinionated as he is. He may be correct in some of this judgements about MS but most of his football stuff comes from listening to others. He just loves to hear himself talk and finds just about any subject to be appropriate to indulge himself.

Originally posted by dj43:
I do not consider Barbieri to be a very knowledgeable football guy. He is far too emotional and not at all analytical. No one in the Bay Area market is so opinionated as he is. He may be correct in some of this judgements about MS but most of his football stuff comes from listening to others. He just loves to hear himself talk and finds just about any subject to be appropriate to indulge himself.

I hate when he doesn't let the people talk or even bring up anything that might be oppose to what he thinks.

Mr T is the only reason i can listen to that show. I can't stand the show when TT is on Vaca.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by dj43:
I do not consider Barbieri to be a very knowledgeable football guy. He is far too emotional and not at all analytical. No one in the Bay Area market is so opinionated as he is. He may be correct in some of this judgements about MS but most of his football stuff comes from listening to others. He just loves to hear himself talk and finds just about any subject to be appropriate to indulge himself.

I hate when he doesn't let the people talk or even bring up anything that might be oppose to what he thinks.

Mr T is the only reason i can listen to that show. I can't stand the show when TT is on Vaca.

He is the ultimate elitist. He loves to brag about his education, his travels, etc. It is as if he never trusts his question to be sufficient to garner a serious response.

I was going to post this last night watching it live, but was too lazy..

anyway, it seemed more like Vernon was trying to keep his composure...He didn't like one bit that Ralph was already talking as if Sing is fired...and was suggesting a replacement on air, in front of Vernon....lol.

very awkward position to be in, Vernon handled himself well. Sometimes I think we forget that Vernon is just 26 years old.

the only thing I didn't like was when Vernon started to sound like Singletary with his answers..but that is what most players (not name T.O. )do, emulate their coaches. He said "I'm very excited we are 2-6...excited to show the world what we can do from here" or something like that. yeah yeah, it is an "opportunity" or what ever... I just don't like hearing spin jobs like that.....heard enough from the Nolan years.

Originally posted by Crazy49er1313:

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by Method:
Was pretty freaking hilarious. Ralph was s**tting all over singletary... Has no experience to be a head coach, has never even been a coordinator, just done a terrible job. All VD said was singleary's like a father figure to him and players still listen. Lol.

VD probably agrees with Ralph.

Btw this was on NBC sports Sunday, VD was guest host and they were talking with Ralph.

Ralph destroyed Nolan in an interview before he got canned as well, if my memory serves me. Nolan kept answering the questions with the usual answer-but-don't-actually-answer-the-question responses that coaches love to use and Ralph wouldn't let him off the hook. People took offense and whined about how harsh he was. I thought it was great. I think he did the same to McCloughan and Jed as well. People say these things all the time, but when a guy like Ralph Barbieri says something in the media it can actually influence some decisions. He speaks as a fan for the fans and I think it's great.

"A fan for the fans"? Really? Who the hell are YOU talking about?

Are you talking about the same sports radio host who's claim to fame in any sport was being a USF cheerleader? The very same guy who used to try to pick a fight with Ken Norton Jr., a man who could've killed him just by sneezing, so he could feel like a tough guy?

I agree that Sing needs to get criticized and called on his inability to perform second half adjustments or do anything outside of motivational speeches, but to say that Barbieri represents anything other than his lame and insufficient self-interests is ignorant.

Only reason why he has a job is b/c everyone hates him and keeps the calls coming to his show just to make himself feel superior, that or he went to an office party where he got pictures of the KNBR owners banging trannies b/c I have no idea how he still has a job...

What do his claim to fame or picking fights with Ken Norton, Jr. have to do with anything I said? What I mean is the fans call in and complain, much like everyone does here, and he provides a voice for those fans when he interviews 49ers management and coaches. He is a 49er fan, whether you like it or not, and he rips these people on behalf of other 49er fans who don't have the opportunities to do it themselves. The only thing ignorant in this conversation is your blatant hatred for the guy.

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Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by PlasmaHero:

Originally posted by DynastyChile:

Originally posted by PlasmaHero:

Originally posted by Natewillis2252:
wow simply amazing lol......gotta love 49er fans

yeah its embarassing. I guarantee its not half as bad as thread starter acts like it is, but people are so giddy to see another grown man get insulted you have to wonder whats happenin in their world.

dude, he is coaching our team to a 2-6 record, probably en route to a 5-6 win season.

I dont want him to get insulted, i dont want him to get embarrassed, i dont want him to die, i dont want him to be sad, i just him to get fired so we can start winning games. That is it. how is this so hard to figure out?

why do fans think its as simple as "We have a bad record, so our coach must suck" Is that easier than rewatching the games and pinpointing the problems?

The thing is, we've watched the games and pinpointed the problems. We were rolling with a bad QB. Who's decisions was that? Oh yeah, that's right, our coach made that call and made sure there was no competition for him. The main problem our team has is it's approach and preparation for opponents. The team is forced to run a smashmouth offensive game plan from the 80's and never makes adjustments when an opponent figures out how to exploit our defense or stop our offense. Whenever we do have success, other teams adjust and that success stalls. Why can't we do the same? Because our coaching is bad.

People didn't just decide "we have a bad record, so our coach must suck."

the OLine sucks, but lets not change anything, we will work hard and fix it.
opposing QBs have too much time, well, let's rush 3 and then give him more time.
the defense is run blitzing the A gaps, let's run a long developing play to the outside.



you might say it is the position coaches, or the OC, or any numerous reason. singletary does not identify the problem or when he does he doesn't correct it. and if it is the coaching staff who compiled the staff? who is their boss?

Exactly.

oh to add...if yall really want to read into things.

when Vernon was asked what is the difference between Alex and Troy Smith.

Vernon just talked about Alex as a person and a teammate...nothing that involves productiveness on the field.

When talking about Troy, said he was a leader and more importantly he WANTS to be a leader and had a strong arm.

for got what else.

the Thing with Alex is...I don't think he believes in himself....well at-least enough to try to be a leader... I think Alex is one of those folks (like myself) who believes you lead by example...by your play on the field....and you don't have to be a vocal leader..... well I think he has always tried to lead with his play first and foremost, but Sing doesn't understand that...and tries to make Alex something he is not, more of a Vocal Leader.....so while Alex is already struggling to play well because of his own limitations...Sing is not making it easier for him.

maybe Alex will do better somewhere else...all I know is it an't going to work here, especially with Sing....Sing was too stubborn to realized this years ago.

Originally posted by sdaddy101269:

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by PlasmaHero:

Originally posted by DynastyChile:

Originally posted by PlasmaHero:

Originally posted by Natewillis2252:
wow simply amazing lol......gotta love 49er fans

yeah its embarassing. I guarantee its not half as bad as thread starter acts like it is, but people are so giddy to see another grown man get insulted you have to wonder whats happenin in their world.

dude, he is coaching our team to a 2-6 record, probably en route to a 5-6 win season.

I dont want him to get insulted, i dont want him to get embarrassed, i dont want him to die, i dont want him to be sad, i just him to get fired so we can start winning games. That is it. how is this so hard to figure out?

why do fans think its as simple as "We have a bad record, so our coach must suck" Is that easier than rewatching the games and pinpointing the problems?

But we already did that and decided he WAS the problem.

I thought we decided it was out turnover prone QB that was the problem? Seems to me, when we don't turn it over we win. Agree?

Who decided not to pursue another option at QB this past offseason? Who handed the job to that QB with no competition? Who made sure no QB was any threat to Alex's starting job going into this year? Who refused to sit that turnover-prone QB until he was forced to because of injury?

That's right, our coach.

Originally posted by Afrikan:
oh to add...if yall really want to read into things.

when Vernon was asked what is the difference between Alex and Troy Smith.

Vernon just talked about Alex as a person and a teammate...nothing that involves productiveness on the field.

When talking about Troy, said he was a leader and more importantly he WANTS to be a leader and had a strong arm.

for got what else.

the Thing with Alex is...I don't think he believes in himself....well at-least enough to try to be a leader... I think Alex is one of those folks (like myself) who believes you lead by example...by your play on the field....and you don't have to be a vocal leader..... well I think he has always tried to lead with his play first and foremost, but Sing doesn't understand that...and tries to make Alex something he is not, more of a Vocal Leader.....so while Alex is already struggling to play well because of his own limitations...Sing is not making it easier for him.

maybe Alex will do better somewhere else...all I know is it an't going to work here, especially with Sing....Sing was too stubborn to realized this years ago.

Agree 100%. Ironically enough, I also believe that if Alex just had that confidence in himself and played as well as he can the majority of the time, he'd be decent. Maybe not great but decent.