Barbeiri Destroying singletary on NBC, VD didn't back up his HC

Originally posted by zeppfan1:

Originally posted by PlasmaHero:
and actually Ralph said he would either look like a buffoon or a genius. Ralph gave himself a way out just in case Singletary started winning, and now that it looks like Singletary is down and out, Ralph is piling on.

This^^

Yeah, we were 8-8 and it was obvious it was going to improve or implode.

Mr. "Free Alex" and "f**k the pitch count" Barbieri is always ready to pile it on.

Originally posted by Apone:

Originally posted by PlasmaHero:

Originally posted by DynastyChile:

Originally posted by PlasmaHero:

Originally posted by Natewillis2252:
wow simply amazing lol......gotta love 49er fans

yeah its embarassing. I guarantee its not half as bad as thread starter acts like it is, but people are so giddy to see another grown man get insulted you have to wonder whats happenin in their world.

dude, he is coaching our team to a 2-6 record, probably en route to a 5-6 win season.

I dont want him to get insulted, i dont want him to get embarrassed, i dont want him to die, i dont want him to be sad, i just him to get fired so we can start winning games. That is it. how is this so hard to figure out?

why do fans think its as simple as "We have a bad record, so our coach must suck" Is that easier than rewatching the games and pinpointing the problems?

He absolutely sucks. The lack of experience, the lack maturity, is conspicuous every week. The guy has a TOTAL coaching experience of 6 years. He gets out coached on a weekly basis. Clueless about X's and O's. He is content on running an ancient archaic offense that would make the creators of techmo bowl proud-and it wouldn't matter if it was Raye, Johnson, or Walsh as the OC-it's his offense. Terrible personal decisions-from not challenging Smith, to trading Hill to getting Carr, to letting Crabtree take the preseason off, and the list goes on. Worst start since 1979, he should be blamed for it and be fired.

The glaring problem with Sing is that he can no longer motivate the players by challenging them to get to the next level through KNOWLEDGE & EXPERIENCE. He does not have the extended education in X's and O's to be that kind of coach. He has essentially hit a brick wall and has imparted all of his minimal knowledge leaving a huge void in the players minds about how much he really does know. I believe the players are playing poorly because they have reached a peak with the Singletary style of coaching which has now become nothing more than an empty shell full of emotional tirades and blaming the players for their 2-6 record. Most certainly Singletary will not be back next year--even Jed has to see the writing on this wall.

Originally posted by PlasmaHero:
Leadership is the most important thing a head coach can bring, not Xs and Os.

Unless you are talking about leading your team to victory, I have to disagree with you. Results are the most important thing a coach can bring. It doesn't matter what your line of work is, the bottom line is results. When you are responsible for a team, or staff, you are accountable for the results produced.

Originally posted by PlasmaHero:
why do fans think its as simple as "We have a bad record, so our coach must suck" Is that easier than rewatching the games and pinpointing the problems?

You must be talking about things like...

The game planning?

Claim we need to be a run first team all you like, although, it was Singletary himself who stated all off season we needed to be balanced. The lack of mixing the run and pass, has made our team embarrassingly predictable on offense.

In game adjustments?

The definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over, and expect a different result. When things are not working, you make changes. If the coordinators don't, it's the head coaches responsibility, duty, obligation, to the team, to step in and make him change what is happening.

Clock management/Use of timeouts? Perhaps the biggest weakness of Singletary as a coach. It simply can't be understated, how Singletary's constant blunders in this area disrupt the flow of the team, and game. Time and time, and time again.

Stubborness and willingness to change?

This is one area that I can give the man some credit. He did fire his offensive coordinator during the season. That being said, he is also the man who hired him, and brought him back for a second season...

So much is made about the players accountability, for turnovers, and penalties. Now, while it is certainly true they should be held accountable, who exactly should be holding them accountable, and making changes when they are making mistakes? Should the players pull themselves from the game, or starting lineup? At the end of the day, it's up to the coach to make the decision about who plays and who doesn't.

Class on the sidelines?

For all of his preaching about discipline, Singletary shows very little. There is making a point, and then there is having an adult temper tantrum.

What message is he sending? The players can't fight in practice, because they need to be disciplined, and focused. Yet, he can run up and down the sidelines, screaming, yelling, stomping his feet, and pouting.

What was it you were saying about leadership being the most important thing?

The fact he doesn't have answers, until he looks at the film?

Is it any wonder he can't make in game adjustments? He doesn't have a clue about what is happening out there(a benefit a coach who knew x's and o's would bring) until he looks at the film.

He is responsible for the team, if his plan A isn't working, what is plan B? What happens when the other team shows you looks you were not ready for? Do you just take your lumps, and look at the film and try again next week? Or as the head coach, should it be your responsibility to identify what is happening during the game, so you make changes accordingly?

You admire leadership in a coach, I get that. However, you can't simplify coaching to simply being a great leader. Otherwise, Tony Robbins would make a better football coach than Mike Singletary.

yea, singletary flies off the handle on a regular. he's a goner and he knows it.

Originally posted by PlasmaHero:

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by PlasmaHero:

Originally posted by Apone:

Originally posted by PlasmaHero:

Originally posted by DynastyChile:

Originally posted by PlasmaHero:

Originally posted by Natewillis2252:
wow simply amazing lol......gotta love 49er fans

yeah its embarassing. I guarantee its not half as bad as thread starter acts like it is, but people are so giddy to see another grown man get insulted you have to wonder whats happenin in their world.

dude, he is coaching our team to a 2-6 record, probably en route to a 5-6 win season.

I dont want him to get insulted, i dont want him to get embarrassed, i dont want him to die, i dont want him to be sad, i just him to get fired so we can start winning games. That is it. how is this so hard to figure out?

why do fans think its as simple as "We have a bad record, so our coach must suck" Is that easier than rewatching the games and pinpointing the problems?

He absolutely sucks. The lack of experience, the lack maturity, is conspicuous every week. The guy has a TOTAL coaching experience of 6 years. He gets out coached on a weekly basis. Clueless about X's and O's. He is content on running an ancient archaic offense that would make the creators of techmo bowl proud-and it wouldn't matter if it was Raye, Johnson, or Walsh as the OC-it's his offense. Terrible personal decisions-from not challenging Smith, to trading Hill to getting Carr, to letting Crabtree take the preseason off, and the list goes on. Worst start since 1979, he should be blamed for it and be fired.

It's not about how you start, its about how you finish, and every head coach has to learn eventually. Or did you not know about Beliciek's stint with the Browns? If you didn't want him fired at the start of the season, why would you want him fired after we make it to the playoffs for the first time in 8 seasons? It doesn't make sense, and I guarantee you, despite the harsh feelings for Singletary right now by some vocal fans, it would be a PR NIGHTMARE if the Niners were to reach the playoffs and Singletary were to be fired.

Not to mention, alot of the stuff you're throwing in your post Singletary didn't have anything to do with. It was Mcloughan that traded Hill, and signed David Carr. And Crabtree was injured, so I'm not sure how you can blame him for that.

As for ancient, archaic offense, what are you talking about? It's a RUN based offense. It's obvious that Niner fans aren't used to it because we've primarily used the pass to set up the run the last 30 years, but guess what? When your best player is a Running back, and one of your worst players is a Quarterback, its not exactly Smart to have a pass based offense. You can't constantly bash Alex Smith all the time, and then turn around and say "Oh and its the coaching for running a conservative offense" Well that's how you limit turnovers and mistakes.. Its not pretty, but its NECESSARY. Sorta like the way our corners play 8-10 yards off the ball because our corners aren't quick enough to keep up with the speedy receivers that this league has. Sure its not pretty, but its NECESSARY. No fan likes their team losing, but its frustrating to hear 'fire the coaches' from fans everytime something doesn't go their way, if a franchise was run based on what the fans wanted, it would be the most unstable train wreck of an organization that ever existed, because fans dont seem to know how to exert patience. They want everything to come together Immediately, and if it doesn't, then Scrap everything and start over again.
It's not a huge surprise that both of our wins have come when the Quarterback didn't turn the ball over. Dont you think its more prudent to see how Singletary does with a QB that knows how to take care of the ball?
I think you take for granted the unity, effort, and accountability that Singletary has built here with the Niners in his short time. All you have to do is look at the Cowboys to see what a team looks like without a head coach that is respected and listened to. Three consecutive blowouts. That is a team that has stopped responding to its coach. As Vernon Davis said "The players still listen to him"
Think about that. Players aren't blind to what writers, and fans have to say. You call him a moron, you call him Dingleberry, you make fun of his cross and snide remarks about his religion (not You specifically I'm addressing but its obviously been said), and yet despite all that AND a losing record, the team is still following him into the battlefield. Please dont discount that. Leadership is the most important thing a head coach can bring, not Xs and Os.

You're gulping the Kool-Aid, man.

As for the bold part.. Don't be ignorant. It's obvious Singletary meddles in every decision regarding this franchise, and that includes who makes the roster, who we draft, who we sign, and who we ship off. If you don't think Singletary was involved in the Shaun Hill trading, you're simply forcing yourself to believe in the man.

Even before Mike Nolan was fired, he had been demoted in terms of personnel decisions, and Scott Mcloughan was in charge. Singletary was never given power over Mcloughan in personnel decisions, nor would it make since for Singletary to be a part of the Carr signing when its been obvious since training camp he doesn't like him.

He had to OK the Hill trade. Period.

Its pretty sad. Was watching Letterman tonight and he did a skit called "Coach's Corner with Mike Singletary" in which he basically made Singletary look like a damn fool (which isnt hard to do). To think we went from having the genius Bill Walsh to Singletary who is the laughing stock of the League is pretty depressing.

It surprises me to hear people here bashing Barbieri, especially considering the low-brow talent that KNBR puts out during their other shows.

Murph and Mac are terrible. So boring and uncomfortable live.

Bob Fitzgerald has such a hackneyed radio personality, and Rod Brooks is the absolute worst that KNBR has ever had.

Barbieri is a bay area native who doubles as a fan of bay area teams. He asks more of local sports teams than mere mediocrity, something that the current generation of 49er fans have difficulty wrapping their minds around.

Originally posted by SBinMT:
It surprises me to hear people here bashing Barbieri, especially considering the low-brow talent that KNBR puts out during their other shows.

Murph and Mac are terrible. So boring and uncomfortable live.

Bob Fitzgerald has such a hackneyed radio personality, and Rod Brooks is the absolute worst that KNBR has ever had.

Barbieri is a bay area native who doubles as a fan of bay area teams. He asks more of local sports teams than mere mediocrity, something that the current generation of 49er fans have difficulty wrapping their minds around.

barbieri is just a huge kiss ass and he's annoying as f**k to listen to. he's my least favorite guy on KNBR.

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by PlasmaHero:

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by PlasmaHero:

Originally posted by Apone:

Originally posted by PlasmaHero:

Originally posted by DynastyChile:

Originally posted by PlasmaHero:

Originally posted by Natewillis2252:
wow simply amazing lol......gotta love 49er fans

yeah its embarassing. I guarantee its not half as bad as thread starter acts like it is, but people are so giddy to see another grown man get insulted you have to wonder whats happenin in their world.

dude, he is coaching our team to a 2-6 record, probably en route to a 5-6 win season.

I dont want him to get insulted, i dont want him to get embarrassed, i dont want him to die, i dont want him to be sad, i just him to get fired so we can start winning games. That is it. how is this so hard to figure out?

why do fans think its as simple as "We have a bad record, so our coach must suck" Is that easier than rewatching the games and pinpointing the problems?

He absolutely sucks. The lack of experience, the lack maturity, is conspicuous every week. The guy has a TOTAL coaching experience of 6 years. He gets out coached on a weekly basis. Clueless about X's and O's. He is content on running an ancient archaic offense that would make the creators of techmo bowl proud-and it wouldn't matter if it was Raye, Johnson, or Walsh as the OC-it's his offense. Terrible personal decisions-from not challenging Smith, to trading Hill to getting Carr, to letting Crabtree take the preseason off, and the list goes on. Worst start since 1979, he should be blamed for it and be fired.

It's not about how you start, its about how you finish, and every head coach has to learn eventually. Or did you not know about Beliciek's stint with the Browns? If you didn't want him fired at the start of the season, why would you want him fired after we make it to the playoffs for the first time in 8 seasons? It doesn't make sense, and I guarantee you, despite the harsh feelings for Singletary right now by some vocal fans, it would be a PR NIGHTMARE if the Niners were to reach the playoffs and Singletary were to be fired.

Not to mention, alot of the stuff you're throwing in your post Singletary didn't have anything to do with. It was Mcloughan that traded Hill, and signed David Carr. And Crabtree was injured, so I'm not sure how you can blame him for that.

As for ancient, archaic offense, what are you talking about? It's a RUN based offense. It's obvious that Niner fans aren't used to it because we've primarily used the pass to set up the run the last 30 years, but guess what? When your best player is a Running back, and one of your worst players is a Quarterback, its not exactly Smart to have a pass based offense. You can't constantly bash Alex Smith all the time, and then turn around and say "Oh and its the coaching for running a conservative offense" Well that's how you limit turnovers and mistakes.. Its not pretty, but its NECESSARY. Sorta like the way our corners play 8-10 yards off the ball because our corners aren't quick enough to keep up with the speedy receivers that this league has. Sure its not pretty, but its NECESSARY. No fan likes their team losing, but its frustrating to hear 'fire the coaches' from fans everytime something doesn't go their way, if a franchise was run based on what the fans wanted, it would be the most unstable train wreck of an organization that ever existed, because fans dont seem to know how to exert patience. They want everything to come together Immediately, and if it doesn't, then Scrap everything and start over again.
It's not a huge surprise that both of our wins have come when the Quarterback didn't turn the ball over. Dont you think its more prudent to see how Singletary does with a QB that knows how to take care of the ball?
I think you take for granted the unity, effort, and accountability that Singletary has built here with the Niners in his short time. All you have to do is look at the Cowboys to see what a team looks like without a head coach that is respected and listened to. Three consecutive blowouts. That is a team that has stopped responding to its coach. As Vernon Davis said "The players still listen to him"
Think about that. Players aren't blind to what writers, and fans have to say. You call him a moron, you call him Dingleberry, you make fun of his cross and snide remarks about his religion (not You specifically I'm addressing but its obviously been said), and yet despite all that AND a losing record, the team is still following him into the battlefield. Please dont discount that. Leadership is the most important thing a head coach can bring, not Xs and Os.

You're gulping the Kool-Aid, man.

As for the bold part.. Don't be ignorant. It's obvious Singletary meddles in every decision regarding this franchise, and that includes who makes the roster, who we draft, who we sign, and who we ship off. If you don't think Singletary was involved in the Shaun Hill trading, you're simply forcing yourself to believe in the man.

Even before Mike Nolan was fired, he had been demoted in terms of personnel decisions, and Scott Mcloughan was in charge. Singletary was never given power over Mcloughan in personnel decisions, nor would it make since for Singletary to be a part of the Carr signing when its been obvious since training camp he doesn't like him.

He had to OK the Hill trade. Period.

definitely, he has the say on who is expendable.

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by PlasmaHero:

Originally posted by DynastyChile:

Originally posted by PlasmaHero:

Originally posted by Natewillis2252:
wow simply amazing lol......gotta love 49er fans

yeah its embarassing. I guarantee its not half as bad as thread starter acts like it is, but people are so giddy to see another grown man get insulted you have to wonder whats happenin in their world.

dude, he is coaching our team to a 2-6 record, probably en route to a 5-6 win season.

I dont want him to get insulted, i dont want him to get embarrassed, i dont want him to die, i dont want him to be sad, i just him to get fired so we can start winning games. That is it. how is this so hard to figure out?

why do fans think its as simple as "We have a bad record, so our coach must suck" Is that easier than rewatching the games and pinpointing the problems?

But we already did that and decided he WAS the problem.

Punishing the wrong party.
Did he tell Nate to fumble vs. ATL?
What about Alex and his charitable act vs. PHI, how was that Sing's doing?
Oh it was his fault for all the mishaps against New Orleans? Yea sing should've told Baas how to snap the ball right?
Hey did Sing constantly get beat in man coverage vs. the Panthers?

Yeah it's allllll Sing's fault. Please people, watch the damn game before you point fingers. Sing ain't the best, but he's far from the worst like how you guys are making him out to be.

Originally posted by TheNef77:

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by PlasmaHero:

Originally posted by DynastyChile:

Originally posted by PlasmaHero:

Originally posted by Natewillis2252:
wow simply amazing lol......gotta love 49er fans

yeah its embarassing. I guarantee its not half as bad as thread starter acts like it is, but people are so giddy to see another grown man get insulted you have to wonder whats happenin in their world.

dude, he is coaching our team to a 2-6 record, probably en route to a 5-6 win season.

I dont want him to get insulted, i dont want him to get embarrassed, i dont want him to die, i dont want him to be sad, i just him to get fired so we can start winning games. That is it. how is this so hard to figure out?

why do fans think its as simple as "We have a bad record, so our coach must suck" Is that easier than rewatching the games and pinpointing the problems?

But we already did that and decided he WAS the problem.

Punishing the wrong party.
Did he tell Nate to fumble vs. ATL?
What about Alex and his charitable act vs. PHI, how was that Sing's doing?
Oh it was his fault for all the mishaps against New Orleans? Yea sing should've told Baas how to snap the ball right?
Hey did Sing constantly get beat in man coverage vs. the Panthers?

Yeah it's allllll Sing's fault. Please people, watch the damn game before you point fingers. Sing ain't the best, but he's far from the worst like how you guys are making him out to be.

There's some logic here definitely, but the KC & Seattle games... there are no excuses for those losses. That's just awful football.

Dude i just want to drop kick raplh right...always talking ish!!

on kNBR right now

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Dude i just want to drop kick raplh right...always talking ish!!

on kNBR right now

What is he saying?

Originally posted by zeppfan1:

Originally posted by PlasmaHero:
and actually Ralph said he would either look like a buffoon or a genius. Ralph gave himself a way out just in case Singletary started winning, and now that it looks like Singletary is down and out, Ralph is piling on.

This^^

Ralph has actually given Singletary the benefit of the doubt since the day he took over for Nolan. So did I. It looked promising for a while, but this team has clearly regressed in 2010 and it looks unprepared nearly every week. I've been following this team since the 70's so I've seen what championship caliber coaching looks like . . . and this ain't it . . . not even close.

Originally posted by NickSh49:

Originally posted by TheNef77:

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by PlasmaHero:

Originally posted by DynastyChile:

Originally posted by PlasmaHero:

Originally posted by Natewillis2252:
wow simply amazing lol......gotta love 49er fans

yeah its embarassing. I guarantee its not half as bad as thread starter acts like it is, but people are so giddy to see another grown man get insulted you have to wonder whats happenin in their world.

dude, he is coaching our team to a 2-6 record, probably en route to a 5-6 win season.

I dont want him to get insulted, i dont want him to get embarrassed, i dont want him to die, i dont want him to be sad, i just him to get fired so we can start winning games. That is it. how is this so hard to figure out?

why do fans think its as simple as "We have a bad record, so our coach must suck" Is that easier than rewatching the games and pinpointing the problems?

But we already did that and decided he WAS the problem.

Punishing the wrong party.
Did he tell Nate to fumble vs. ATL?
What about Alex and his charitable act vs. PHI, how was that Sing's doing?
Oh it was his fault for all the mishaps against New Orleans? Yea sing should've told Baas how to snap the ball right?
Hey did Sing constantly get beat in man coverage vs. the Panthers?

Yeah it's allllll Sing's fault. Please people, watch the damn game before you point fingers. Sing ain't the best, but he's far from the worst like how you guys are making him out to be.

There's some logic here definitely, but the KC & Seattle games... there are no excuses for those losses. That's just awful football.

Ok so we don't go perfect. How does 6-2 look? Yea looks like Ralph needs to STFU unless he wants to strap up and show Sing how it's done.