Originally posted by ttime1:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by brucesf49:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by brucesf49:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by nevadalove9ers2:
I think if Troy Smith wins a bunch of games that would be enough for me to keep coach. Its seems like we have been looking for a qb forever. If by some miracle Troy Smith takes us to the playoffs then thats enough for me.
Not for me. That would mean that Sing had a winner sitting on the bench and did not allow that winner to compete for a starting position. Isn't the coach supposed to know the talent he has on his roster and encourage competition so that the best guy can play? Sing has more or less dug a hole that he won't be able to get out of.
seriously man. no way troy smith could have competed for the starting job that fast. he barely signed just before the season started. he would have had to sit and learn the playbook anyways. which means....coach knew Carr wasn't the answer and he was correct. and coach knew T Smith would have to learn the playbook. and you got to be honest, Nate Davis just isn't ready. Sounds to me like coach knew what he was doing as far as the qb's we got. now should we have signed a different qb in the offseason. yes. but look how mcnabb is turning out in wash. not so great huh. maybe it would have turned out different in sf..who knows. only other option is keep shaun hill. been there, done that.
what else? draft a qb? bradford gone by our picks and no other rookie looks as good as him so really all options lead to bust season unless troy smith becomes a star in front of our eyes.
speaking of T Smith. seen this vid on 49ers.com. He does show us a lot of qualities Alex does not.
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Its not an issue of when Troy could or could not compete though. It's all about Troy not being allowed to compete that bothers me; especially when the coach emphasizes competition. It's not just with the QB either; that's just the latest of many positions I've seen this with. Look at TKO @ ILB or 2 rookies + Chilo on our O-Line or even Dixon over Gore when we're trying to run out the clock for a win. Sure a players got to get game time to improve; but, when it comes to critical moments in the game we need the most talented not the more up-side guy in there. That's why I feel the way I do.
BTW Nice vid...
the thing is there is no competition to be had until Troy understands the plays, and enough of them to consider a starting a competition. that becomes difficult when you sign the guy right when the season starts. you have already committed to a qb for the seaosn and at that point it makes no sense to rob Alex of reps to commit to a guy who just signed...another young guy also. this also slams any confidence you have already vested in Alex.
really my point is that it is easy to sit here now, 8 weeks later and as a fan, and rip the club for not giving a newly aquired Troy Smith more playing time. No Club would do that unless the guy signed was a pro bowl type player
Nobody's ripping him for not giving Troy playtime. Were ripping him for not giving Troy Practice competition time. Troy didn't get better than Alex at the exact same time Alex got hurt. He somehow developed and learned the playbook; at least enough to play in and help win one game. Yet, Sing still had him as the 3rd string guy; hell, even our OC didn't know much about what Troy could do.
It's kinda embarrassing to have a 3rd stringer come in and out play not only your backup; but, also outplay your starter. If this doesn't scream we have a coaching problem to you, I don't know what else to say...
The same thing can be said about N. Davis. And although I am 100% in agreement with you that they should have spread the reps around, Sing did not have a Peyton starting. He had a somewhat fragile QB who he was trying to instill confidence in. Given this scenario, I can now understand why Alex got the vast majority of the reps. Do I agree? Nope. But I understand
Yes! this is what I'm talking about. We all know that Carr is now #3 and Alex will most likely be the backup. Now I'm not a huge Nate fan; but, it makes more sense to dump Carr and bring Nate up to the 3rd string spot and give him some more practice time because the #3 should be a development spot IMO...
You do bring up a good point about Alex needing the confidence; but, this is Football. If any player is so fragile that you have to walk on eggshells around them or protect him from a little competition, then I don't want that player on my team... I mean, be a Man and take your lumps; but, go out there and honestly compete.
Competition is required to improve the overall performance of any given position; otherwise that position will stay stagnant like we've been... Then again, I know I'm preaching to the quire on this one...