1) Yorks
2) HC
3) OC
4) QB play
5) Secondary
6) 2 Rookie O linemen and injured Center
7) Terrible special teams at times
8) Lack of generating turnovers
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Reasons Why This Season Has Failed
Oct 25, 2010 at 12:25 PM
- SanDiego49er
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Oct 25, 2010 at 12:28 PM
- AZ9erfan520
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Every single problem can and should be blamed on coaching. Chilo Rachal is one of our biggest problems. Our line is so much better when Snyder is in there. The inability to pull the trigger on this much needed depth chart change...coaching. Vanilla, conservative offensive coaching that kept Nolan's 2 runs and a pass scheme in place...coaching. Inability to make any kind of offensive adjustment until very recently....coaching. Sing has to go.
Oct 25, 2010 at 12:31 PM
- AZ9erfan520
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
1) Yorks
2) HC
3) OC
4) QB play
5) Secondary
6) 2 Rookie O linemen and injured Center
7) Terrible special teams at times
8) Lack of generating turnovers
Don't know how much i'd pin on the injured center. David Baas is doing a hell of a job and should be the starter there for the long term.
Oct 25, 2010 at 12:34 PM
- AZ9erfan520
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Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
If you wanna win consistently you gotta have 2 things, good coaching and a good QB. These last 7 or 8 seasons we haven't had both, we haven't even had 1 of those things.
Lets get ourselves a proven winning Coach and take the highest rated QB. Every QB has question marks coming out, Sam Bradford did, Matt Ryan did, Joe Flacco did,we need to go get ourselves a QB like one of them. Then and only then will we experience success.
I'm beginning to wonder if we shouldn't try to make a move for one of the Philly qb's in the offseason. As we all well know its not an easy task to draft a qb who will produce in the pros. First order of business should be to get rid of Sing and hire someone who knows what they are doing, then go get a quality qb.
Oct 25, 2010 at 12:40 PM
- SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by AZ9erfan520:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
1) Yorks
2) HC
3) OC
4) QB play
5) Secondary
6) 2 Rookie O linemen and injured Center
7) Terrible special teams at times
8) Lack of generating turnovers
Don't know how much i'd pin on the injured center. David Baas is doing a hell of a job and should be the starter there for the long term.
Continuity of the line and bad snaps and such. 3 new starters on O Line including 2 rookies is too much.
Oct 25, 2010 at 12:46 PM
- excelsior
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Over the last three weeks, since MJ was promoted to OC, Alex has outplayed the following high-profile QBs (as measured by QB rating and TD versus INT ratio):
P. Manning, Rodgers, Brees, Brady, McNaab, Cutler.
If you don't believe me, go look it up.
If this is how changing an OC helps Alex, imagine how fixing the OL and getting better play from our receiver corps would further help. Doltish is how I characterize the Alex haters. They cant' see the picture even if it hit them in the face.
P. Manning, Rodgers, Brees, Brady, McNaab, Cutler.
If you don't believe me, go look it up.
If this is how changing an OC helps Alex, imagine how fixing the OL and getting better play from our receiver corps would further help. Doltish is how I characterize the Alex haters. They cant' see the picture even if it hit them in the face.
Oct 25, 2010 at 1:09 PM
- AZ9erfan520
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by AZ9erfan520:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
1) Yorks
2) HC
3) OC
4) QB play
5) Secondary
6) 2 Rookie O linemen and injured Center
7) Terrible special teams at times
8) Lack of generating turnovers
Don't know how much i'd pin on the injured center. David Baas is doing a hell of a job and should be the starter there for the long term.
Continuity of the line and bad snaps and such. 3 new starters on O Line including 2 rookies is too much.
I agree about the 2 rookies but we all knew that would take time. I'll agree to disagree on the center issue though. The only bad snap that comes to mind is the one through the uprights in his first start. Other than that his play has been really good. I think the key is moving Rachal to the bench. Snyder is much better than Chilo.
Oct 25, 2010 at 1:27 PM
- SanFranAddic
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Originally posted by sacniner:
COACHING
I'll go with this.
The ugliest and most inexcusable reasons:
-Poor clock management and Soft D at end of games allowing opponents to come back and win all the close games
-Offense goes into a coma as soon as we go ahead
-Formation and personnel problems leading to blown timeouts, penalties, and stalled drives.
Singletary is a goner at the bye.
Oct 25, 2010 at 1:35 PM
- binary2nd
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Originally posted by excelsior:
Over the last three weeks, since MJ was promoted to OC, Alex has outplayed the following high-profile QBs (as measured by QB rating and TD versus INT ratio):
P. Manning, Rodgers, Brees, Brady, McNaab, Cutler.
If you don't believe me, go look it up.
If this is how changing an OC helps Alex, imagine how fixing the OL and getting better play from our receiver corps would further help. Doltish is how I characterize the Alex haters. They cant' see the picture even if it hit them in the face.
I don't think anyone sane is solely blaming Alex anymore for our ineptitude, it's pretty obvious that the issues are much deeper. Like you said, with SLIGHTLY improved playcalling Alex has played a lot better. However, we continue to have untimely, drive-killing penalties, and our playcalling is still overly conservative. I haven't seen a team so enamored with creating "manageable third downs" in my life.
Oct 25, 2010 at 1:37 PM
- D_Niner
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It all points to one guy. Sing!
Oct 25, 2010 at 1:51 PM
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Originally posted by excelsior:
Over the last three weeks, since MJ was promoted to OC, Alex has outplayed the following high-profile QBs (as measured by QB rating and TD versus INT ratio):
P. Manning, Rodgers, Brees, Brady, McNaab, Cutler.
If you don't believe me, go look it up.
If this is how changing an OC helps Alex, imagine how fixing the OL and getting better play from our receiver corps would further help. Doltish is how I characterize the Alex haters. They cant' see the picture even if it hit them in the face.
Well I'm sure I calculate it a bit differently than you did; but, I show that Alex average (over the past 3 weeks) 16.6 completions in 30.3 attempts for 211.3 yards 6 TDs and 3 turnovers. This equates to a QB rate of 85.04 and a completion % of 54.7.
This would put him at 18th in QB rate and 30th in completion % in the NFL for this season. It's an improvement; but, its still below average.
How did you come up with better than P. Manning, Rodgers, Brees, Brady, McNaab, Cutler?
Oct 25, 2010 at 1:53 PM
- binary2nd
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Originally posted by D_Niner:Originally posted by excelsior:
Over the last three weeks, since MJ was promoted to OC, Alex has outplayed the following high-profile QBs (as measured by QB rating and TD versus INT ratio):
P. Manning, Rodgers, Brees, Brady, McNaab, Cutler.
If you don't believe me, go look it up.
If this is how changing an OC helps Alex, imagine how fixing the OL and getting better play from our receiver corps would further help. Doltish is how I characterize the Alex haters. They cant' see the picture even if it hit them in the face.
Well I'm sure I calculate it a bit differently than you did; but, I show that Alex average (over the past 3 weeks) 16.6 completions in 30.3 attempts for 211.3 yards 6 TDs and 3 turnovers. This equates to a QB rate of 85.04 and a completion % of 54.7.
This would put him at 18th in QB rate and 30th in completion % in the NFL for this season. It's an improvement; but, its still below average.
How did you come up with better than P. Manning, Rodgers, Brees, Brady, McNaab, Cutler?
Brees, Cutler, Mcnabb have been horrible. I don't know bout the other guys. Mcnabb has been especially terrible this year, I'm pretty glad we didn't give up an early pick for that bum.
Oct 25, 2010 at 2:17 PM
- excelsior
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It is easy to look this info up. Go to the NFL section of the ESPN website and click on "Scores." Then look up the box scores for the games played the last three weeks, specifically those games in which those QBs played. What I am saying is that these other good QBs have been struggling lately too. It might be the QB, and it might be other factors that are affecting their play.
Oct 25, 2010 at 2:41 PM
- Psinex
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Originally posted by billbird2111:
Alex Smith belongs on this list somewhere.
Seriously. Our QB is a MAJOR reason as to why we flopped this year.
This thread is not credible by excluding him from any blame.
Alex Smith is such a scapegoat for everything on these boards, that I wanted to use my brain to try and get deeper than the average Alex hater. He is a big part of the problem, but there are many surrounding elements that contribute to the poor play of the entire team. Jimmy Raye's Tecmo Bowl playbook, the rookies + Chilo combined with Staley's poor play on the o-line and Crabtree's lack of camp, Gore's inability to find and break through any holes and Ginn's early injury have all made Alex's job ten times more difficult for the first six weeks. Hell, our o-line gave up the most sacks in the whole league to start the season. That NEVER results in anything good. And that was a complete failure on a team level, something you Alex haters fail to understand.
Oct 25, 2010 at 2:49 PM
- LambdaChi49
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Originally posted by billbird2111:
Alex Smith belongs on this list somewhere.
Seriously. Our QB is a MAJOR reason as to why we flopped this year.
This thread is not credible by excluding him from any blame.
I think Smith was responsible for two games IMO (Eagles and Falcons). But you could argue that Gore was as well in the Eagles game. He turned the ball over twice at crucial times before Smiths horrendous fumble. They both sucked ass that game.
The falcons game was all Smith IMO. He doesn't throw those late picks and we win no doubt. Seattle game was..just weird all around. NO game...we could have won. Defense lost that game. KC...total failure. Carolina...thanks David Carr.
But hey...if you're not part of the solution then you're part of the problem.