Source: Singletary will have to win 1-2 playoff games to keep job

Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:

Originally posted by SY9er8:

Originally posted by AiNoKea:

Originally posted by SY9er8:
http://www.sfexaminer.com/sports/Dickey-Time-for-the-Niners-to-move-on-from-Singletary-104128248.html


THIS!!!!!

Very solid article, but that was two games ago when that article was written, wonder what he thinks now??

I posted it because this!!!! I really hopes he wants to come here!

If the 49ers make an inseason change, Jon Gruden is available. Gruden made that obvious when, during the Jerry Rice tribute at halftime of the New Orleans game, he alluded to Eddie DeBartolo as the “architect of the 49ers success.” He knows better. Bill Walsh was the architect, but Gruden was clearly angling for the coaching job.


Read more at the San Francisco Examiner: http://www.sfexaminer.com/sports/Dickey-Time-for-the-Niners-to-move-on-from-Singletary-104128248.html#ixzz12GFixad7

I don't agree that was angling for the job. I wish he would take the job but I think he would wait til the end of the year. Dallas might fire Wade Phillips and don't be surprised if San Diego does the same thing with Norv.

What's more attractive to Jon? SF, DAL or SD? Or better yet, Alex Smith, Tony Romo or Philip Rivers?

Gruden probably would choose Dallas over us. But if SD fires Norv, we better pounce and make him our new HC in a quick second.

Originally posted by Hopper:

Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:

Originally posted by SY9er8:

Originally posted by AiNoKea:

Originally posted by SY9er8:
http://www.sfexaminer.com/sports/Dickey-Time-for-the-Niners-to-move-on-from-Singletary-104128248.html


THIS!!!!!

Very solid article, but that was two games ago when that article was written, wonder what he thinks now??

I posted it because this!!!! I really hopes he wants to come here!

If the 49ers make an inseason change, Jon Gruden is available. Gruden made that obvious when, during the Jerry Rice tribute at halftime of the New Orleans game, he alluded to Eddie DeBartolo as the “architect of the 49ers success.” He knows better. Bill Walsh was the architect, but Gruden was clearly angling for the coaching job.


Read more at the San Francisco Examiner: http://www.sfexaminer.com/sports/Dickey-Time-for-the-Niners-to-move-on-from-Singletary-104128248.html#ixzz12GFixad7

I don't agree that was angling for the job. I wish he would take the job but I think he would wait til the end of the year. Dallas might fire Wade Phillips and don't be surprised if San Diego does the same thing with Norv.

What's more attractive to Jon? SF, DAL or SD? Or better yet, Alex Smith, Tony Romo or Philip Rivers?

Gruden probably would choose Dallas over us. But if SD fires Norv, we better pounce and make him our new HC in a quick second.

Ewww, screw Norv Turner, he sucks!

Originally posted by AiNoKea:

Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:

Originally posted by AiNoKea:

Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Maybe the greatest extraordinary act would be to win one game.

If the Raiders win this week.....

If we lose to Oakland Singletary will be fired Monday morning.

Why wait till Monday.

Because a win can buy time for the Inevitable.

I mean, if we lose to Oakland on Sunday, why wait till Monday to fire his ass.

If they fire Singletary, they really should make a run at a proven winner at the NFL level like Gruden or [insert your candidate here]. A coach like that is not going to step in as an interim coach in a lame duck season.

The problem I have with the rumor is, if it's to be believed, it can only come from someone in the organization above Singletary, and there is almost no point in leaking such a rumor if you're the GM, owner, president, what have you. Now, when Singletary gets in a player's face or tries to motivate them, they're thinking, "Who are you? You won't even be here next year." How could that possibly help the team this year?

The only explanation that seems likely is an impulsive and emotional reaction from the young owner, or perhaps relayed from his buddy Parrag. The new personnel guy doesn't have that kind or authority. This would have to be a statement from the York family or someone close to them. I can see an immature kid turning around and giving Singletary a does of his own medicine just as Singletary put Smith on the hot seat for all the world to see. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, I guess, but Singletary will crack under this pressure and our season will blow up earlier than necessary.

I still would like to see them buckle down and make an honest run at an 8 or 9 win season with most of the tougher games behind us. They owe it to the fans rather than blowing this thing up in Week 6. You could always can Singletary at the end of the season if the rumors are correct. Why throw him under the bus now?

Just say no to Norv.

He's a very good OC, but a terrible HC. Just ask San Diego. They screwed us and ultimately screwed themselves.

Originally posted by Chief:

Originally posted by Hopper:

Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:

Originally posted by SY9er8:

Originally posted by AiNoKea:

Originally posted by SY9er8:
http://www.sfexaminer.com/sports/Dickey-Time-for-the-Niners-to-move-on-from-Singletary-104128248.html


THIS!!!!!

Very solid article, but that was two games ago when that article was written, wonder what he thinks now??

I posted it because this!!!! I really hopes he wants to come here!

If the 49ers make an inseason change, Jon Gruden is available. Gruden made that obvious when, during the Jerry Rice tribute at halftime of the New Orleans game, he alluded to Eddie DeBartolo as the “architect of the 49ers success.” He knows better. Bill Walsh was the architect, but Gruden was clearly angling for the coaching job.


Read more at the San Francisco Examiner: http://www.sfexaminer.com/sports/Dickey-Time-for-the-Niners-to-move-on-from-Singletary-104128248.html#ixzz12GFixad7

I don't agree that was angling for the job. I wish he would take the job but I think he would wait til the end of the year. Dallas might fire Wade Phillips and don't be surprised if San Diego does the same thing with Norv.

What's more attractive to Jon? SF, DAL or SD? Or better yet, Alex Smith, Tony Romo or Philip Rivers?

Gruden probably would choose Dallas over us. But if SD fires Norv, we better pounce and make him our new HC in a quick second.

Ewww, screw Norv Turner, he sucks!

No, what we've had the last 5 years sucks.

Originally posted by kray28:
Just say no to Norv.

He's a very good OC, but a terrible HC. Just ask San Diego. They screwed us and ultimately screwed themselves.

How did they screw themselves? Norv has at least taken Chargers to the AFC championship game. They didn't make it to SB because they ran into a(Pats) better team.

Originally posted by FL9er:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by baltien:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by SnakePlissken:

Originally posted by BubbaParisMVP:

Originally posted by SnakePlissken:

Originally posted by CaptainTabasco:
whoever we replace Sing with i just hope its not gruden... i am praying to god that its not gruden

My money says it's gonna be somebody we don't expect. Hopefully it'll be Marty Mornhinweg. His WCO ripped us a new ass last Sunday.

I agree with both posters.

Gruden is quite a way down my list of candidates, too, CptTabasco. I just don't think he's that much of a break from Singletary. Better X's and O's, but he's cut from the same rah-rah charismatic style of coaching as Sing.

I think you're certainly right about it being a dark horse candidate, SnakePlissken. What top flight coach in his right mind wants to take over our reclimation project anyway? I like the Mornhinweg suggestion, good resume, a dash of Niners' pedigree, and I think his type of offense is well suited to our roster. Better yet, I think it's a feasible hire.

Marty Mornhinweg would literally be the safe/cheap choice! He's a damn good coach/ballsy offensive mastermind who has out-coached many teams at Philly. Dude was literally screwed by Detroit after one season. He coached up Garcia (whilst being on both the 49ers and Eagles), Favre, Hasselbeck, and McNabb. Hell, even Kevin Kolb's mechanics looked (early) Hasselbeck-esq last Sunday.

I just see Gruden being a horrible idea at this time (even though he's a highly qualified candidate). This team is fed up with motivational speakers/yellers, they need some fresh air.

Mornhinweg would be Nolan 2.0 really good coordinator... bad head coach

You know the thing about Nolan is I don't think he was ever a good coordinator. The Ravens defense was so good during his tenure that anyone would have looked good "coaching" them. Truth is Marvin Lewis BUILT that defense and in my mind, only he can lay claim to it.

Nowhere else has Nolan gone and built a good defense from the ground up.

He was fired in Denver because even with Dumervil putting up (around) 20 sacks, they were still overall terrible. And if you want to know how he's doing in Miami.....see last week's game against the Patriots.

Did you know that Adalius Thomas first began to emerge on the Ravens when Nolan was the DC ? Suggs and Reed are in the same boat, both of them were drafted under Nolan (Suggs best career sack numbers came under Nolan). Lewis began the build of that defense and Nolan continued to build on his foundation and the defense continued to grow and develop under Rex Ryan as well. That team was fortunate to have 3 great DC's in succession, it also did not hurt that Ozzie Newsome did a tremendous job at the beginning of this decade with finding talent.

Did you also know Nolan was not fired in Denver, but resigned. And you can't expect a guy to switch defensive schemes whilst lacking the personnel to run it to have great success from day 1. Nolan helped lead Denver to a 6-0 start but eventually the lack of personnel became exposed and teams learned how to exploit them yet they still finished 7th overall in total defense (a defense that was ranked 29th the year prior).

In Miami they are currently ranked 7th overall in total defense. The last 2 weeks the performances haven't been great however they have dealt with the injury bug on the DL.

With the Giants he defense was fairly solid. His track as a DC speaks for itself, you can hate him as a HC all you want but to s**t on what he has done as a DC is blind hatred.

New England returned a KO for a TD, blocked 2 kicks that led to TDs (one was returned for a TD), and an INT for a TD. That's 28 of the 41 pts scored right there.

Sounds like you need to talk to the special teams coordinator for that one

translation: don't expect him to get fired mid season, do expect him to get fired as soon as the season ends.

Originally posted by Hopper:

Originally posted by kray28:
Just say no to Norv.

He's a very good OC, but a terrible HC. Just ask San Diego. They screwed us and ultimately screwed themselves.

How did they screw themselves? Norv has at least taken Chargers to the AFC championship game. They didn't make it to SB because they ran into a(Pats) better team.

Norv has always allowed them to underperform and underachieve while their championship window was open. Even last year, they should have beaten the Jets, and didn't.

In his case, he inherited the keys to a Roll Royce, with the top defenses in the league, the best RB in the league, best TE in the league and a great young QB too. There was nothing to build....he just had to coach to wins...which he did fine in the regular season. But then the playoffs....when it counts....happened.

They had talent, HFA, were the better team, but choked in the playoff every single year and it starts with Norv. This year is another slow start and another letdown for them, and their window is rapidly closing too.

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by ninerfan42:
Other teams are having no problem figuring how to stop the niners. This is due to Singletary's stagnant philosophy. This will only change with a change at head coach. Singletary is too set in his ways. I love the guy, but he is a motivational speaker, not a head coach.

The front office feels that nobody on the coaching staff can step in and turn the team around. I concur.

So who do we get? Here is my list of possibilities, in no particular order:

Jack Del Rio
John Gruden
John Fox

Personally, I prefer Chucky, and the other two are currently employed. What are your thoughts?

I really don't understand the WZ's infatuation with Gruden. Dude won with Tony Dungee's team and ruined that team afterward. He was lucky to get a previously overlooked quality QB and some talented but aging vets while with the Raiders.

I will HATE watching his dumb faces on the sidelines if he is hired in SF. IMO the largest indictment on Gruden is that fact that he is still broadcasting when sooooo many jobs have become available since he got canned in TB.

So who do you want?

Originally posted by darkknight49:

Originally posted by brucesf49:
PLAYOFFS?!?!?

YOU KIDDING ME?!?

LULZ

My stance stays the same, if we get to the playoffs he can stay. I said it in preseason and I still stand by that now...would be more impressive if he did pull it off now anyways.

We would have to win two games in the playoffs before I'd think about giving him another chance unless during the season he shows some sort of ability to know anything about the game of football strategically.

But we will be 5-11, maybe 6-10 if we get on a roll so it won't matter. I'm already looking forward to the next coach. I think Gruden really wants to be here, but I'm a bit meh about him as a coach.

Originally posted by Hopper:

Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:

Originally posted by SY9er8:

Originally posted by AiNoKea:

Originally posted by SY9er8:
http://www.sfexaminer.com/sports/Dickey-Time-for-the-Niners-to-move-on-from-Singletary-104128248.html


THIS!!!!!

Very solid article, but that was two games ago when that article was written, wonder what he thinks now??

I posted it because this!!!! I really hopes he wants to come here!

If the 49ers make an inseason change, Jon Gruden is available. Gruden made that obvious when, during the Jerry Rice tribute at halftime of the New Orleans game, he alluded to Eddie DeBartolo as the “architect of the 49ers success.” He knows better. Bill Walsh was the architect, but Gruden was clearly angling for the coaching job.


Read more at the San Francisco Examiner: http://www.sfexaminer.com/sports/Dickey-Time-for-the-Niners-to-move-on-from-Singletary-104128248.html#ixzz12GFixad7

I don't agree that was angling for the job. I wish he would take the job but I think he would wait til the end of the year. Dallas might fire Wade Phillips and don't be surprised if San Diego does the same thing with Norv.

What's more attractive to Jon? SF, DAL or SD? Or better yet, Alex Smith, Tony Romo or Philip Rivers?

Gruden probably would choose Dallas over us. But if SD fires Norv, we better pounce and make him our new HC in a quick second.

No way Gruden ends up in Dallas.. Gruden wouldn't want to work for Jerry Jones, and Jerry Jones wants his coaches to be lap dogs and brown nosing yes men.

Originally posted by seeking6th:

Originally posted by ninerfan42:
Other teams are having no problem figuring how to stop the niners. This is due to Singletary's stagnant philosophy. This will only change with a change at head coach. Singletary is too set in his ways. I love the guy, but he is a motivational speaker, not a head coach.

The front office feels that nobody on the coaching staff can step in and turn the team around. I concur.

So who do we get? Here is my list of possibilities, in no particular order:

Jack Del Rio
John Gruden
John Fox

Personally, I prefer Chucky, and the other two are currently employed. What are your thoughts?

not del rio

chucky, if he'd even bother...

maybe fox, but not too thrilling.

i'm down with billick, but not cowher.

Gruden, he comes from the Walsh family tree, plus he is offensive coach that understands Xs and Os.

Billick is far to pretentious, sanctimonious and psuedo cerebral. He tries to act smarter than he really is. Look at it this way. For a guy that is supposed to be offensive minded, how good were any of his Raven's offenses. Not that good, they were never explosive and innovative. The Raven's offenses under Billick rode on the back of the Ravens defense.

I want an offensive minded coach that knows how to play chess, not checkers.