Alex Smith #2 in the NFL in red zone efficiency (not kidding)

I agree. Come on man, we average 12.7 points/game!

Originally posted by Leathaface:
I'm sorry but this is some dumb s**t.

Originally posted by Wodwo:

Originally posted by D_Niner:


I think, in the end, it's an interesting stat that doesn't tell us much...

Tells us that Smith throws TDs in the red zone and doesn't throw picks in the red zone.

Joe Flacco had a 72.7 rating with 11 TDs 3 INTs.

And now it's officially gone full circle and were back to my original point. Alex is #32 in points per attempt. So, this #2 in Red zone efficiency is an interesting stat that doesn't tell us much...

Originally posted by D_Niner:

Originally posted by Wodwo:

Originally posted by D_Niner:


I think, in the end, it's an interesting stat that doesn't tell us much...

Tells us that Smith throws TDs in the red zone and doesn't throw picks in the red zone.

Joe Flacco had a 72.7 rating with 11 TDs 3 INTs.

And now it's officially gone full circle and were back to my original point. Alex is #32 in points per attempt. So, this #2 in Red zone efficiency is an interesting stat that doesn't tell us much...

it means that he does not throw very many TD's period. He does not get his team to the redzone very often but when he does usually keeps you in a good position for 3 points.

Oh, and that he is almost never a threat to score from outside the 20.

Originally posted by Leathaface:
I'm sorry but this is some dumb s**t.

Why? Because it doesn't agree with your arguments? How inconvenient...

Originally posted by dobo:
Extend the red zone to the 30 and see what happens.

Do you extend the red zone to the 30 for 31 other teams or just this one?

Originally posted by Wodwo:

Originally posted by D_Niner:


What was the question?

You were talking about flukes. I wanted to know which of Smith's seasons are flukes.

Let me grade them so you don't think I'm asking as an "Alexcuser".

2005: F -

2006: C -

2007: F -

2008: DNP

2009: C

He was injured most of 07 too you know...

1 Peyton Manning IND QB 87 126 69.0 42.0 1,013 8.0 337.7 9 0 49 38.9 73T 12 3 3 116.9
2 Michael Vick PHI QB 54 89 60.7 29.7 750 8.4 250.0 6 0 31 34.8 61T 11 5 11 110.2
3 Jay Cutler CHI QB 60 91 65.9 30.3 870 9.6 290.0 6 2 36 39.6 89T 12 2 8 109.7
4 Tom Brady NE QB 66 98 67.3 32.7 758 7.7 252.7 8 2 36 36.7 46 11 2 2 109.1
5 Drew Brees NO QB 85 112 75.9 37.3 856 7.6 285.3 6 2 43 38.4 80T 9 1 5 107.6
6 Mark Sanchez NYJ QB 46 79 58.2 26.3 550 7.0 183.3 6 0 27 34.2 67T 8 1 5 104.9
7 Kyle Orton DEN QB 83 125 66.4 41.7 1,078 8.6 359.3 4 2 50 40.0 61 18 4 5 97.4
8 Vince Young TEN QB 30 43 69.8 14.3 338 7.9 112.7 3 2 17 39.5 56T 3 1 5 96.9
9 Philip Rivers SD QB 73 121 60.3 40.3 1,087 9.0 362.3 7 4 53 43.8 59T 18 4 7 95.3
10 Matt Schaub HOU QB 70 101 69.3 33.7 845 8.4 281.7 5 4 45 44.6 50 13 1 11 94.7
11 Matt Ryan ATL QB 67 106 63.2 35.3 705 6.7 235.0 5 1 35 33.0 34 6 0 5 94.3
12 Tony Romo DAL QB 88 128 68.8 42.7 940 7.3 313.3 4 2 45 35.2 63T 13 1 1 93.9
13 Aaron Rodgers GB QB 72 105 68.6 35.0 759 7.2 253.0 5 3 43 41.0 34 10 0 3 93.3
14 Donovan McNabb WAS QB 62 102 60.8 34.0 833 8.2 277.7 2 1 35 34.3 62 11 3 5 89.2
15 Chad Henne MIA QB 56 93 60.2 31.0 659 7.1 219.7 3 1 34 36.6 46 5 2 7 88.1
16 Seneca Wallace CLE QB 34 55 61.8 18.3 370 6.7 123.3 2 1 17 30.9 65T 5 2 3 86.2
17 Josh Freeman TB QB 49 83 59.0 27.7 544 6.6 181.3 4 2 25 30.1 46 8 2 6 84.6
18 Eli Manning NYG QB 67 102 65.7 34.0 810 7.9 270.0 5 6 32 31.4 54T 12 2 7 81.7
19 Matt Cassel KC QB 42 77 54.5 25.7 494 6.4 164.7 4 3 25 32.5 45T 6 1 2 75.4
19 Matt Hasselbeck SEA QB 57 90 63.3 30.0 623 6.9 207.7 4 5 28 31.1 52 7 2 5 75.4
21 Bruce Gradkowski OAK QB 28 56 50.0 28.0 417 7.4 208.5 2 2 21 37.5 70 8 1 3 71.8
22 Carson Palmer CIN QB 69 122 56.6 40.7 707 5.8 235.7 3 3 41 33.6 51 7 1 3 71.3
23 Sam Bradford STL QB 69 117 59.0 39.0 655 5.6 218.3 4 5 36 30.8 39 7 0 6 68.1
24 Derek Anderson ARI QB 51 98 52.0 32.7 580 5.9 193.3 3 3 28 28.6 35 9 0 6 67.6
25 David Garrard JAC QB 44 74 59.5 24.7 448 6.1 149.3 4 5 20 27.0 26 10 0 10 66.7
25 Shaun Hill DET QB 63 107 58.9 35.7 660 6.2 220.0 3 5 29 27.1 75T 7 1 4 66.7
27 Joe Flacco BAL QB 59 108 54.6 36.0 664 6.1 221.3 4 5 35 32.4 38 8 0 3 66.3
28 Alex Smith SF QB 72 119 60.5 39.7 732 6.2 244.0 2 5 31 26.1 41 7 2 7 66.2
29 Jason Campbell OAK QB 30 52 57.7 26.0 267 5.1 133.5 1 2 14 26.9 27 2 0 6 61.9
30 Brett Favre MIN QB 60 97 61.9 32.3 597 6.2 199.0 2 6 29 29.9 33 7 0 6 60.4
31 Jimmy Clausen CAR QB 23 48 47.9 16.0 247 5.1 82.3 0 2 13 27.1 44 2 1 1 46.1
32 Matt Moore CAR QB 20 49 40.8 24.5 307 6.3 153.5 2 4 16 32.7 37T 5 0 8 41.8

But we'll just go ahead and ignore the overall quarterback rating where he is ranked 28th. That is very meaningless.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?season=2010&seasonType=REG&d-447263-o=2&conference=null&tabSeq=0&statisticCategory=PASSING&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=PASSING_PASSER_RATING&d-447263-n=1

oh niner talk, you so crazy.

Go Alex!

Originally posted by skynet907:
oh niner talk, you so crazy.

Skynet Please, no need to hate on the zone...

Originally posted by D_Niner:

And now it's officially gone full circle and were back to my original point. Alex is #32 in points per attempt. So, this #2 in Red zone efficiency is an interesting stat that doesn't tell us much...

It tells us that Smith doesn't suck everywhere...? Maybe there is hope? Maybe a change at OC will make a difference?

I think that was why the OP started the thread anyway.

Originally posted by Wodwo:

Originally posted by D_Niner:

And now it's officially gone full circle and were back to my original point. Alex is #32 in points per attempt. So, this #2 in Red zone efficiency is an interesting stat that doesn't tell us much...

It tells us that Smith doesn't suck everywhere...? Maybe there is hope? Maybe a change at OC will make a difference?

I think that was why the OP started the thread anyway.

You know what, I think Danimal may be closer to the truth... He's playing so conservatively in the red zone that he doesn't give up the rock; but, also doesn't score many points. Maybe the new OC will force him to take more chances and we may possibly start walking away with 7 instead of 3...

simple explanation. Smith can only throw the ball 5 yards deep. In the redzone, there are no long pass plays.

Originally posted by D_Niner:

You know what, I think Danimal may be closer to the truth... He's playing so conservatively in the red zone that he doesn't give up the rock; but, also doesn't score many points. Maybe the new OC will force him to take more chances and we may possibly start walking away with 7 instead of 3...

Actually, if you look back to last season, Smith and the offense were one of the top teams in the league scoring in the red zone. They've had mistakes and turnovers in the red zone this season.

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Raye’s unit ranked fifth the NFL in red zone touchdown efficiency, scoring on 84.6 percent of their 39 red zone possessions (23 touchdowns, 10 field goals).

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