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Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by valrod33:
2010: Alex Smith Through Week 3



10 yards and shorter he is 61-88 for 520 Yards and 69.3 completion % with 1 td and 4 ints and 69.3 rating

11-20 yards he is 10-22 for 171 yards and 45.5 completion % with 1 TD and no int and 87.5 rating

21 yards and longer 1-9 for 41 yards for 11.1 completion % with No Tds and 1 int and 6.5 rating


http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post?id=24522

last year

1-10 yards he was 61-110 for 562 yards and a 55.5 completion % with 3 TDs and 4 Ints and Qb rating of 63.5


11-20 yards he was 73-110 for 838 yards and a 66.4 completion % with 6TDs and 3Ints and a QB rating of 95.9


21-30 yards he was 57-93 for 674 yards and a 61.3 completion % with 7TDs and 3 INTs and a Qb Rating of 95.0


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/splits?playerId=8416&sYear=2009

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  • Wodwo
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Originally posted by D_Niner:


16 TD's and 16 INTs is not a good stat across 16 games. 18TDs in 11 games is better; but with a higher than 1 INT per game average, it's not all that good either. In fact it's just below average as QB's go.

Also, look at the games before the injury in 07 and tell me if he's in line or below this 1 TD/Game ratio? (just a heads up in the 3 games before his injury he had 1 TD and 1 INT total)

Did not answer question.
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by valrod33:
2010: Alex Smith Through Week 3



10 yards and shorter he is 61-88 for 520 Yards and 69.3 completion % with 1 td and 4 ints and 69.3 rating

11-20 yards he is 10-22 for 171 yards and 45.5 completion % with 1 TD and no int and 87.5 rating

21 yards and longer 1-9 for 41 yards for 11.1 completion % with No Tds and 1 int and 6.5 rating


http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post?id=24522

last year

1-10 yards he was 61-110 for 562 yards and a 55.5 completion % with 3 TDs and 4 Ints and Qb rating of 63.5


11-20 yards he was 73-110 for 838 yards and a 66.4 completion % with 6TDs and 3Ints and a QB rating of 95.9


21-30 yards he was 57-93 for 674 yards and a 61.3 completion % with 7TDs and 3 INTs and a Qb Rating of 95.0


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/splits?playerId=8416&sYear=2009

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Confirms his status as Capt. Checkdown. 88/119 throws underneath...

He needs to throw the damn ball down the field more. Did pretty good last year, so why the f**k not? It's combination of his inconsistency/ineptitude + Singletary's "vision" of the offense.
Originally posted by Wodwo:
Originally posted by D_Niner:


16 TD's and 16 INTs is not a good stat across 16 games. 18TDs in 11 games is better; but with a higher than 1 INT per game average, it's not all that good either. In fact it's just below average as QB's go.

Also, look at the games before the injury in 07 and tell me if he's in line or below this 1 TD/Game ratio? (just a heads up in the 3 games before his injury he had 1 TD and 1 INT total)

Did not answer question.

What was the question?
  • Wodwo
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Originally posted by Leathaface:


Confirms his status as Capt. Checkdown. 88/119 throws underneath...

He needs to throw the damn ball down the field more. Did pretty good last year, so why the f**k not? It's combination of his inconsistency/ineptitude + Singletary's "vision" of the offense.

Is it his decisions or the play calling, though?
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by Wodwo:
Originally posted by D_Niner:


It's not just Alex under Raye; he's always been low in this category. Remember it took him 9 games to get his first TD. In his best season, he only threw for 18 TDs and his career average is less than 1 TD per game (even if you omit his rookie year) I hope I'm wrong; but, history tells me that the #2 stat is a fluke...

Wait... didn't Smith throw 18 TDs in 11 games last season? He threw 16 in 16 in '06.

Let's see... he didn't play in '08. He had a shoulder injury in '07 (Alexcuse?). His rookie season he may have been the worst looking QB in NFL history.

Which ones are flukes?

16 TD's and 16 INTs is not a good stat across 16 games. 18TDs in 11 games is better; but with a higher than 1 INT per game average, it's not all that good either. In fact it's just below average as QB's go.

Also, look at the games before the injury in 07 and tell me if he's in line or below this 1 TD/Game ratio? (just a heads up in the 3 games before his injury he had 1 TD and 1 INT total)

ok im not saying it was great but considering kwame harris at RT we didnt have a LT at all brandon lloys was our 1 WR 16 td and 16 int is not half bad

last year also was good not great but good

Don't get me wrong either; I'm not saying Alex has been total crap. He's just been below average to average. IMO a 1st overall pick should be a bit better than that and in order to continuously make it to the playoffs we need an Above Average QB to lead the team.

ok that i can agree on

however unlike you i acually think he can be that qb but we have to see if raye was the problem or if it was raye and alex

we should find out in the next 2 weeks
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Originally posted by Wodwo:
Originally posted by Leathaface:


Confirms his status as Capt. Checkdown. 88/119 throws underneath...

He needs to throw the damn ball down the field more. Did pretty good last year, so why the f**k not? It's combination of his inconsistency/ineptitude + Singletary's "vision" of the offense.

Is it his decisions or the play calling, though?

He still has more than one option to throw to. Matt Leinart was getting the same plays called for him this preseason that Warner had last year, but Matt Leinart chose the short passes and got cut.
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by Wodwo:
Originally posted by D_Niner:


It's not just Alex under Raye; he's always been low in this category. Remember it took him 9 games to get his first TD. In his best season, he only threw for 18 TDs and his career average is less than 1 TD per game (even if you omit his rookie year) I hope I'm wrong; but, history tells me that the #2 stat is a fluke...

Wait... didn't Smith throw 18 TDs in 11 games last season? He threw 16 in 16 in '06.

Let's see... he didn't play in '08. He had a shoulder injury in '07 (Alexcuse?). His rookie season he may have been the worst looking QB in NFL history.

Which ones are flukes?

16 TD's and 16 INTs is not a good stat across 16 games. 18TDs in 11 games is better; but with a higher than 1 INT per game average, it's not all that good either. In fact it's just below average as QB's go.

Also, look at the games before the injury in 07 and tell me if he's in line or below this 1 TD/Game ratio? (just a heads up in the 3 games before his injury he had 1 TD and 1 INT total)

ok im not saying it was great but considering kwame harris at RT we didnt have a LT at all brandon lloys was our 1 WR 16 td and 16 int is not half bad

last year also was good not great but good

Don't get me wrong either; I'm not saying Alex has been total crap. He's just been below average to average. IMO a 1st overall pick should be a bit better than that and in order to continuously make it to the playoffs we need an Above Average QB to lead the team.

ok that i can agree on

however unlike you i acually think he can be that qb but we have to see if raye was the problem or if it was raye and alex

we should find out in the next 2 weeks

I'm also not saying that he can't do it; but, after 6 years I have lost faith. As far as the 2 more weeks (and I'm not saying this is you) there will still be posters making excuses for his play instead of admitting that Alex has been below average.
Seems like every interception this year by Alex was a short throw... Throw deep you p***y! Thing about Alex when he throws deep is it gets to his man or he overthrows it, but when he's throwing short he rushes the pass and it has a higher chance of getting tipped by these s**tty receivers. Both are at fault but he needs to start throwing passes around 10 or more yards god dammit
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Originally posted by D_Niner:


What was the question?

You were talking about flukes. I wanted to know which of Smith's seasons are flukes.

Let me grade them so you don't think I'm asking as an "Alexcuser".

2005: F -

2006: C -

2007: F -

2008: DNP

2009: C
Originally posted by Method:
Seems like every interception this year by Alex was a short throw... Throw deep you p***y! Thing about Alex when he throws deep is it gets to his man or he overthrows it, but when he's throwing short he rushes the pass and it has a higher chance of getting tipped by these s**tty receivers. Both are at fault but he needs to start throwing passes around 10 or more yards god dammit

He's had 9 attempts for greater than 21 yards this year; resulting in 1 INT and 1 Competion.
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Originally posted by Wodwo:
Originally posted by D_Niner:


What was the question?

You were talking about flukes. I wanted to know which of Smith's seasons are flukes.

Let me grade them so you don't think I'm asking as an "Alexcuser".

2005: F -

2006: C -

2007: F -

2008: DNP

2009: C

2010 F+
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Originally posted by pd24:

He still has more than one option to throw to. Matt Leinart was getting the same plays called for him this preseason that Warner had last year, but Matt Leinart chose the short passes and got cut.

Smith had the same OC from last year, too.

Warner > Leinart

Smith = Smith
Originally posted by Method:
Seems like every interception this year by Alex was a short throw... Throw deep you p***y! Thing about Alex when he throws deep is it gets to his man or he overthrows it, but when he's throwing short he rushes the pass and it has a higher chance of getting tipped by these s**tty receivers. Both are at fault but he needs to start throwing passes around 10 or more yards god dammit

it has been mentioned by many posters and people who have rewatched the games before most of the routes that were runned were not designed to get more than 10 yds

only pllays that were are the 3rd and longs and in the 2 min drill against saints (which worked)
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Originally posted by susweel:


2010 F+

Not a complete season.
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