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Originally posted by boast:
oh looky. Donovan McChoke is last.

Too bad he has almost a 90 QB rating and only 1 INT.

Oh and his team actually has a win.
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Yah but how many TDs has he lead us to ?
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Originally posted by TDilvr:


You guys sound even dumber than than the Alexcuse brigade. Yeah but......the only reason...... durrrrrr.

It would be great if Crabs knew WTF he was doing out there. It would be great if DWalk knew what "high and tight" meant. I t would be great if the damn O-line could ever get 11" of push on a 3rd and inches. It would be great if this damn team could defend against a screen play. It would be great if this team knew how to RUN a screen play. It would be great if Alex could ever start a game hot or not torpedo a damn 5 yrd dump off which all leads back to the coaching which is s--t which all leads back to ownership which is it s--t.

Wait... don't you have to pick one thing to blame and argue that it is the only reason for failure? Learn the rules, buddy.
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Originally posted by TDilvr:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by 4evrfan:
Those stats are meaningless when we only get in the Redzone once every lunar eclipse!
uh, if you take the time to actually look at the numbers you will see Smith has two more passing attempts than Brees, and ranks ahead of Brees in rating.
The biggest problem in the red zone hasn't been Smith. It has been TOs and stuffed running attempts up the gut where the defense is all stacked up.

uh, lol. The only reason he has more passing attempts than Brees is because Smith thows little screen passes to Gore and hopes Gore can get a TD. Brees goes for the endzone, has less pass attempts but double the TD's.

You guys sound even dumber than than the Alexcuse brigade. Yeah but......the only reason...... durrrrrr.

It would be great if Crabs knew WTF he was doing out there. It would be great if DWalk knew what "high and tight" meant. I t would be great if the damn O-line could ever get 11" of push on a 3rd and inches. It would be great if this damn team could defend against a screen play. It would be great if this team knew how to RUN a screen play. It would be great if Alex could ever start a game hot or not torpedo a damn 5 yrd dump off which all leads back to the coaching which is s--t which all leads back to ownership which is it s--t.

Read this: Those tipped ints are not all on Crabtree:


Quote:
September 28, 2010
Smith's passes soaring, stock diving
I just finished watching the television version of the 49ers game in Kansas City. (Spoiler alert: They lost). One thing that jumped out, especially in light of the recent news that team's quarterbacks coach will take over as offensive coordinator, is that the quarterback, Alex Smith, continues to let his passes soar. When Smith misses, he misses high. And that leads to tipped passes. And those lead to interceptions.



Read more: http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2010/09/smiths-stock-di.html#ixzz1128OWWPW
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Originally posted by susweel:
Yah but how many TDs has he lead us to ?

Ooh, ooh... I know! 4.
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Originally posted by Wodwo:
Originally posted by susweel:
Yah but how many TDs has he lead us to ?

Ooh, ooh... I know! 4.

I will say 3


Im not counting that last one against the chiefs, that was bush league.
Originally posted by Wodwo:
Originally posted by D_Niner:


It's not just Alex under Raye; he's always been low in this category. Remember it took him 9 games to get his first TD. In his best season, he only threw for 18 TDs and his career average is less than 1 TD per game (even if you omit his rookie year) I hope I'm wrong; but, history tells me that the #2 stat is a fluke...

Wait... didn't Smith throw 18 TDs in 11 games last season? He threw 16 in 16 in '06.

Let's see... he didn't play in '08. He had a shoulder injury in '07 (Alexcuse?). His rookie season he may have been the worst looking QB in NFL history.

Which ones are flukes?

16 TD's and 16 INTs is not a good stat across 16 games. 18TDs in 11 games is better; but with a higher than 1 INT per game average, it's not all that good either. In fact it's just below average as QB's go.

Also, look at the games before the injury in 07 and tell me if he's in line or below this 1 TD/Game ratio? (just a heads up in the 3 games before his injury he had 1 TD and 1 INT total)
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Originally posted by Apone:

I couldn't help it either... Same reaction I got when I began reading.

Now that's comedy. Perfect use of a GIF.

Shame on you who want to take credit away from Alex. What a joke. I don't see you doing that to the rest of the QB's. Geez, people. Anytime Alex has any sort of positive thing, it's always "Eh. That's only because (insert lame excuse for a positive stat, etc.)"

Alex doesn't turn the ball over in the RedZone.

Exactly!

However, we knew if the 49ers started off poorly, not this poorly, that we would get the wave of hate calling for firings (which Sing already did), selling the team, and start from scratch all over again.

OTC, I have to admit I am now contemplating the what if negative scenarios which could produce a stronger coaching staff in the long run as I believe we do have talent on our squad. That's not a bad thing. Yet, I want to continue supporting my team and cheer them on. I really liked Singletary and hope he can do something with this squad this year. I just think he may have already lost the team deep inside their psyche.

That's why the collapses happen. If there's a collapse at Atlanta, then, to me, he's lost them and its over. If we somehow pull this thing out, he gets another week of a stay on his job.

IMHO now, he must get us to the playoffs and win one to keep his job. I don't think just going to the playoffs is going to cut it.

There's a lot of football left, but Singletary's job is now being evaluated through these next few weeks. We come out 3-3 after six games, there's some hope for the season. If we go 1-5...

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Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by Wodwo:
Originally posted by susweel:
Yah but how many TDs has he lead us to ?

Ooh, ooh... I know! 4.

I will say 3


Im not counting that last one against the chiefs, that was bush league.

It's 3 counting the last one against the Chiefs.
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by Wodwo:
Originally posted by D_Niner:


It's not just Alex under Raye; he's always been low in this category. Remember it took him 9 games to get his first TD. In his best season, he only threw for 18 TDs and his career average is less than 1 TD per game (even if you omit his rookie year) I hope I'm wrong; but, history tells me that the #2 stat is a fluke...

Wait... didn't Smith throw 18 TDs in 11 games last season? He threw 16 in 16 in '06.

Let's see... he didn't play in '08. He had a shoulder injury in '07 (Alexcuse?). His rookie season he may have been the worst looking QB in NFL history.

Which ones are flukes?

16 TD's and 16 INTs is not a good stat across 16 games. 18TDs in 11 games is better; but with a higher than 1 INT per game average, it's not all that good either. In fact it's just below average as QB's go.

Also, look at the games before the injury in 07 and tell me if he's in line or below this 1 TD/Game ratio? (just a heads up in the 3 games before his injury he had 1 TD and 1 INT total)

ok im not saying it was great but considering kwame harris at RT we didnt have a LT at all brandon lloys was our 1 WR 16 td and 16 int is not half bad

last year also was good not great but good
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Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by Wodwo:
Originally posted by susweel:
Yah but how many TDs has he lead us to ?

Ooh, ooh... I know! 4.

I will say 3


Im not counting that last one against the chiefs, that was bush league.

It's 3 counting the last one against the Chiefs.


Damn he sucks.
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by valrod33:
2010: Alex Smith Through Week 3



10 yards and shorter he is 61-88 for 520 Yards and 69.3 completion % with 1 td and 4 ints and 69.3 rating

11-20 yards he is 10-22 for 171 yards and 45.5 completion % with 1 TD and no int and 87.5 rating

21 yards and longer 1-9 for 41 yards for 11.1 completion % with No Tds and 1 int and 6.5 rating


http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post?id=24522

last year

1-10 yards he was 61-110 for 562 yards and a 55.5 completion % with 3 TDs and 4 Ints and Qb rating of 63.5


11-20 yards he was 73-110 for 838 yards and a 66.4 completion % with 6TDs and 3Ints and a QB rating of 95.9


21-30 yards he was 57-93 for 674 yards and a 61.3 completion % with 7TDs and 3 INTs and a Qb Rating of 95.0


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/splits?playerId=8416&sYear=2009
Originally posted by Wodwo:
Originally posted by TDilvr:


You guys sound even dumber than than the Alexcuse brigade. Yeah but......the only reason...... durrrrrr.

It would be great if Crabs knew WTF he was doing out there. It would be great if DWalk knew what "high and tight" meant. I t would be great if the damn O-line could ever get 11" of push on a 3rd and inches. It would be great if this damn team could defend against a screen play. It would be great if this team knew how to RUN a screen play. It would be great if Alex could ever start a game hot or not torpedo a damn 5 yrd dump off which all leads back to the coaching which is s--t which all leads back to ownership which is it s--t.

Wait... don't you have to pick one thing to blame and argue that it is the only reason for failure? Learn the rules, buddy.

Snap I forgot. I will have to study up.
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by Wodwo:
Originally posted by D_Niner:


It's not just Alex under Raye; he's always been low in this category. Remember it took him 9 games to get his first TD. In his best season, he only threw for 18 TDs and his career average is less than 1 TD per game (even if you omit his rookie year) I hope I'm wrong; but, history tells me that the #2 stat is a fluke...

Wait... didn't Smith throw 18 TDs in 11 games last season? He threw 16 in 16 in '06.

Let's see... he didn't play in '08. He had a shoulder injury in '07 (Alexcuse?). His rookie season he may have been the worst looking QB in NFL history.

Which ones are flukes?

16 TD's and 16 INTs is not a good stat across 16 games. 18TDs in 11 games is better; but with a higher than 1 INT per game average, it's not all that good either. In fact it's just below average as QB's go.

Also, look at the games before the injury in 07 and tell me if he's in line or below this 1 TD/Game ratio? (just a heads up in the 3 games before his injury he had 1 TD and 1 INT total)

ok im not saying it was great but considering kwame harris at RT we didnt have a LT at all brandon lloys was our 1 WR 16 td and 16 int is not half bad

last year also was good not great but good

Don't get me wrong either; I'm not saying Alex has been total crap. He's just been below average to average. IMO a 1st overall pick should be a bit better than that and in order to continuously make it to the playoffs we need an Above Average QB to lead the team.
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