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Sep 28, 2010 at 8:18 PM
- ObePwnD
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How about, loved the hire from day one but now I don't.
Sep 28, 2010 at 8:19 PM
- SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by excelsior:
What makes me nervous about the Johnson promotion is that it is eerily similar to what happened in the Hostler promotion. Recall that the reason Nolan gave for promoting Hostler, the QB coach, to OC is because Hostler prepared gameplans of his own each week, so he knew how to do it. We saw how that turned out.
In the case of Johnson, we were told he is qualified to be OC because he prepares his own gameplans each week. Sound familiar.
Contrast the above with the teams who hire proven, successful OCs. We keep trying out unproven people, and then when they disappoint, act surprised.
The Yorks almost always promote from within in times of crisis. And they are inexperienced and unproven guys. Case and point - SINGLETARY himself.
And there are many more examples. But it's the York pattern. We get it by now. They just don't.
Sep 28, 2010 at 8:21 PM
- silkyjohnson
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I wish someone had spiked the kool-aid
Sep 28, 2010 at 8:33 PM
- NineFourNiner
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by excelsior:
What makes me nervous about the Johnson promotion is that it is eerily similar to what happened in the Hostler promotion. Recall that the reason Nolan gave for promoting Hostler, the QB coach, to OC is because Hostler prepared gameplans of his own each week, so he knew how to do it. We saw how that turned out.
In the case of Johnson, we were told he is qualified to be OC because he prepares his own gameplans each week. Sound familiar.
Contrast the above with the teams who hire proven, successful OCs. We keep trying out unproven people, and then when they disappoint, act surprised.
The Yorks almost always promote from within in times of crisis. And they are inexperienced and unproven guys. Case and point - SINGLETARY himself.
And there are many more examples. But it's the York pattern. We get it by now. They just don't.
...and Manusky will be next.
Sep 28, 2010 at 8:35 PM
- SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by NineFourNiner:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by excelsior:
What makes me nervous about the Johnson promotion is that it is eerily similar to what happened in the Hostler promotion. Recall that the reason Nolan gave for promoting Hostler, the QB coach, to OC is because Hostler prepared gameplans of his own each week, so he knew how to do it. We saw how that turned out.
In the case of Johnson, we were told he is qualified to be OC because he prepares his own gameplans each week. Sound familiar.
Contrast the above with the teams who hire proven, successful OCs. We keep trying out unproven people, and then when they disappoint, act surprised.
The Yorks almost always promote from within in times of crisis. And they are inexperienced and unproven guys. Case and point - SINGLETARY himself.
And there are many more examples. But it's the York pattern. We get it by now. They just don't.
...and Manusky will be next.
I've said many times I believe he will be our "interim" head coach and then Jed will trot out next offseasn and say he is the new HC full time and there is hope and change and a bright future and such...
Sep 28, 2010 at 8:51 PM
- Chief
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Originally posted by susweel:
I liked the hire at the time but grew to realize that he's all talk.
Sep 29, 2010 at 6:31 AM
- ZRF80
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I posted a thread during the offseason asking whether it would be a good idea to go after someone like Mike Shanahan or Mike Holmgren because they were both WCO guys (which taliored to this team's tradition) and would be better coaches than Sing because of experience (especially QB experience).
I pretty much got burned for being a "hater", "troll", etc. for not supporting Sing and Smith.
Oops, guess I was on to something, especially since some former players are coming out and claiming that Sing and his coacxhing staff like to "wing it" on gameday....
I pretty much got burned for being a "hater", "troll", etc. for not supporting Sing and Smith.
Oops, guess I was on to something, especially since some former players are coming out and claiming that Sing and his coacxhing staff like to "wing it" on gameday....
Sep 29, 2010 at 6:44 AM
- jta854
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Originally posted by silkyjohnson:
I wish someone had spiked the kool-aid
I vote that the best smiley ever.
Sep 29, 2010 at 9:36 AM
- rEspEctdA49ers
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All this talk about Kool-aid makes me want some now...
Anyway, I found the hire to be interesting considering how much knowledge this guy Sing has about the game and, how he could use that to help our team. Strategically, mentally, and physically. I'm still confident with Sing because I like his attitude, not the one he displayed when he went
, but his attitude meaning the way he speaks about what he wants from a team. Every 9ers fan has heard that "I want winners" speech and that's what I believe, got people to respect him. As of now, that respect has probably gone down a lot, but as said in another forum, "this is the time we find out the die-hard fans from the wannabe's." The people who wanna simply hate Sing and the people who wanna actually discuss ways he could do a better job.
So go 9ers!! and let's get this sh** turned around!

Anyway, I found the hire to be interesting considering how much knowledge this guy Sing has about the game and, how he could use that to help our team. Strategically, mentally, and physically. I'm still confident with Sing because I like his attitude, not the one he displayed when he went
, but his attitude meaning the way he speaks about what he wants from a team. Every 9ers fan has heard that "I want winners" speech and that's what I believe, got people to respect him. As of now, that respect has probably gone down a lot, but as said in another forum, "this is the time we find out the die-hard fans from the wannabe's." The people who wanna simply hate Sing and the people who wanna actually discuss ways he could do a better job. So go 9ers!! and let's get this sh** turned around!
[ Edited by rEspEctdA49ers on Sep 29, 2010 at 9:36 AM ]
Sep 29, 2010 at 9:40 AM
- verb1der
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Originally posted by jta854:Originally posted by silkyjohnson:
I wish someone had spiked the kool-aid
I vote that the best smiley ever.
+1
Sep 29, 2010 at 9:41 AM
- SybErkRimInAL
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I drank it and liked it. Mainly because I felt this team was talented enough to be a winning team. I felt all we needed was discipline and motivation. 2 things Singletary can clearly deliver. However, Singletary's inability to perform basic functions of managing a game and his devotion to the Forrest Gump of offensive schemes has me seeing the light. Not to mention the way he handles the media and throwing his players under the bus.
Sep 29, 2010 at 9:45 AM
- BIGDOGG42
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I drank a 40 ounce of kool aid mixed with Mickeys.
Sep 29, 2010 at 9:46 AM
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always and forever........
or until Jim Jones tells me to stop.
or until Jim Jones tells me to stop.
Sep 29, 2010 at 9:47 AM
- lamontb
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i didn't hate or love the hire but I brought in
Sep 29, 2010 at 9:48 AM
- HessianDud
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I liked the hire, and still like the hire, but I'm incredibly disappointed that Sing has not developed as a coach in 2.5 years.