There's no option for "Yes, without a doubt".
But really, I'd give him 2-3 yrs before forming an opinion on that label that gets mentioned too easily these days.
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Is Anthony Davis a BUST?
Is Anthony Davis a BUST?
Jun 22, 2010 at 11:41 AM
- mcbaes72
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Jun 22, 2010 at 11:45 AM
- danimal
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Originally posted by billbird2111:
I still think it's a relevant question. Our 1st pick in the draft didn't do so well in OTA's.
I thought someone might be a tad concerned.
Guess I was wrong.
It is a valid question. I think you are just forgetting where you are posting.
I could have made the same post about Rashaun Woods after his first OTA's and all the responses would have been the same.
People want to see a few bad games first before passing judgement, well hello....if you can't separate yourself in OTA's and practices, you won't be playing in any games anyway.
The fact of the matter here is every single 49er fan would have much preferred he kicked ass in OTA's. The mere fact that is what people would have wanted the most, and it did not happen is telling.
Most zoners don't have a sense of a meter reading on busthood vs Pro Bowler. Its just wait and find out in 3-4 years. Well, the people who decide these things don't wear the blinders many zoners do....you better freaking believe this does get Davis bad early marks on the grade sheet of the people who matter.
Bottom line, his playing poorly out the gate is not a good thing.
p.s. Also, mathematical odds are only one of these two linemen work out for us. Anyone who still does not realize that 1st rounders have a about a 50% success career rate is a little far behind. So this just falls into should have expected it territory if you ask me
[ Edited by danimal on Jun 22, 2010 at 11:48:48 ]
Jun 22, 2010 at 11:57 AM
- fryet
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Of course he is a bust. Picked 11th overall, and hasn't even started a single game for us!
Jun 22, 2010 at 12:00 PM
- YorkHater
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we shoulda took DEZ and Iupati
Jun 22, 2010 at 12:02 PM
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Not nearly as big a bust as this thread.
Jun 22, 2010 at 12:04 PM
- MntIdaGold
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Originally posted by lamontb:
is this a joke?
Jun 22, 2010 at 12:06 PM
- Memphis9er
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Originally posted by phatbutskinny:Originally posted by miked1978:
is this real life?
i have two fingers
My finger points.
Jun 22, 2010 at 12:08 PM
- superman49er
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damn supplemental draft is comin up..better look for a replacement
Jun 22, 2010 at 12:14 PM
- Memphis9er
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Originally posted by danimal:Originally posted by billbird2111:
I still think it's a relevant question. Our 1st pick in the draft didn't do so well in OTA's.
I thought someone might be a tad concerned.
Guess I was wrong.
It is a valid question. I think you are just forgetting where you are posting.
I could have made the same post about Rashaun Woods after his first OTA's and all the responses would have been the same.
People want to see a few bad games first before passing judgement, well hello....if you can't separate yourself in OTA's and practices, you won't be playing in any games anyway.
The fact of the matter here is every single 49er fan would have much preferred he kicked ass in OTA's. The mere fact that is what people would have wanted the most, and it did not happen is telling.
Most zoners don't have a sense of a meter reading on busthood vs Pro Bowler. Its just wait and find out in 3-4 years. Well, the people who decide these things don't wear the blinders many zoners do....you better freaking believe this does get Davis bad early marks on the grade sheet of the people who matter.
Bottom line, his playing poorly out the gate is not a good thing.
p.s. Also, mathematical odds are only one of these two linemen work out for us. Anyone who still does not realize that 1st rounders have a about a 50% success career rate is a little far behind. So this just falls into should have expected it territory if you ask me
He hasn't even put on the pads yet so there is no way to say he is a bust. This post is irrelevant until he has a body of work to be judged on.
Jun 22, 2010 at 12:25 PM
- danimal
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Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by danimal:Originally posted by billbird2111:
I still think it's a relevant question. Our 1st pick in the draft didn't do so well in OTA's.
I thought someone might be a tad concerned.
Guess I was wrong.
It is a valid question. I think you are just forgetting where you are posting.
I could have made the same post about Rashaun Woods after his first OTA's and all the responses would have been the same.
People want to see a few bad games first before passing judgement, well hello....if you can't separate yourself in OTA's and practices, you won't be playing in any games anyway.
The fact of the matter here is every single 49er fan would have much preferred he kicked ass in OTA's. The mere fact that is what people would have wanted the most, and it did not happen is telling.
Most zoners don't have a sense of a meter reading on busthood vs Pro Bowler. Its just wait and find out in 3-4 years. Well, the people who decide these things don't wear the blinders many zoners do....you better freaking believe this does get Davis bad early marks on the grade sheet of the people who matter.
Bottom line, his playing poorly out the gate is not a good thing.
p.s. Also, mathematical odds are only one of these two linemen work out for us. Anyone who still does not realize that 1st rounders have a about a 50% success career rate is a little far behind. So this just falls into should have expected it territory if you ask me
He hasn't even put on the pads yet so there is no way to say he is a bust. This post is irrelevant until he has a body of work to be judged on.
He does have a body of work. His first OTA's. Its just like the old Alex Smith debates. Whenever you just want to throw away some work and completely ignore it, your position is flawed imo.
Alex Smiths rookie year should be ignored because of the team around him
Anthony Davis OTA's should be ignored because they were playing in shorts
See the pattern?
BTW...my answer was "Way too early to tell". I know it is too early to tell...but at the same time I am not going to just ignore this either.
Jun 22, 2010 at 12:31 PM
- GoGetit
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Way to Early. I wish Taylor Mays would of been pick 17
Jun 22, 2010 at 12:34 PM
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I wouldn't have titled the thread like this, but the thing is, I don't think our O-line is gonna be much, if any better. Smith is gonna have to be better himself. I think he will be, though.
We're starting 2 rookies...not a good thing. Our RG Rachal has been super inconsistent and our LT Staley isn't exactly a stalwart either.
I wouldn't be surprised one bit to see Davis struggle early and often.
We're starting 2 rookies...not a good thing. Our RG Rachal has been super inconsistent and our LT Staley isn't exactly a stalwart either.
I wouldn't be surprised one bit to see Davis struggle early and often.
Jun 22, 2010 at 12:39 PM
- valrod33
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Originally posted by GoGetit:
Way to Early. I wish Taylor Mays would of been pick 17
this makes no sense
Jun 22, 2010 at 12:40 PM
- NinerBuff
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Originally posted by GoGetit:
Way to Early. I wish Taylor Mays would of been pick 17
Why? Why would you want to pick a player higher in the draft when we got him in the second and now he has a "first round grudge". That literally makes no sense.
Jun 22, 2010 at 12:41 PM
- darkknight49
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yes, he is a bust. He is a huge bust. Let us all accept that.
Now that expectations have been set extremely low, there's no where to go but up!
Now that expectations have been set extremely low, there's no where to go but up!