The "We have to sign our guys" smoke screen

Originally posted by Grigga2021:
alright Oakland.....how about some names of some players u'd like to sign from free agency and who u want replaced in our starting line-up?

It's not my job to know all available free agents nor do I care to take the time.




MY ONLY POINT WAS TO SAY STOP FEEDING US A BULLs**t LINE. Thats it! It wasn't a debate on how to build a team. However, I'm pretty sure we could find some guys out there at the RB position.

Reality Check: This is the NFL, big name FA will ALWAYS be over priced (Its simple supply and demand). If you plan to "find a bargain" you better do you homework or you could end up with another B.Jones.

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by Grigga2021:
alright Oakland.....how about some names of some players u'd like to sign from free agency and who u want replaced in our starting line-up?

It's not my job to know all available free agents nor do I care to take the time.




MY ONLY POINT WAS TO SAY STOP FEEDING US A BULLs**t LINE. Thats it! It wasn't a debate on how to build a team. However, I'm pretty sure we could find some guys out there at the RB position.

Reality Check: This is the NFL, big name FA will ALWAYS be over priced (Its simple supply and demand). If you plan to "find a bargain" you better do you homework or you could end up with another B.Jones.

Hows he feeding us b/s when hes telling the truth. We are focused on the draft because this is a very weak FA class. Hes not feeding b/s hes saying how it is. WE DONT WANT OTHER TEAMS GARBAGE.

Originally posted by Grigga2021:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by Grigga2021:
alright Oakland.....how about some names of some players u'd like to sign from free agency and who u want replaced in our starting line-up?

It's not my job to know all available free agents nor do I care to take the time.




MY ONLY POINT WAS TO SAY STOP FEEDING US A BULLs**t LINE. Thats it! It wasn't a debate on how to build a team. However, I'm pretty sure we could find some guys out there at the RB position.

Reality Check: This is the NFL, big name FA will ALWAYS be over priced (Its simple supply and demand). If you plan to "find a bargain" you better do you homework or you could end up with another B.Jones.

Hows he feeding us b/s when hes telling the truth. We are focused on the draft because this is a very weak FA class. Hes not feeding b/s hes saying how it is. WE DONT WANT OTHER TEAMS GARBAGE.

half of the FA's out there arent garbage bro lol

Originally posted by Ceadderman:
Stay tuned for double face palm.

~Ceadder

I would agree with you if we had our QB situation in place. Alex might blossom and we might have to give him a hefty contract. Alex might fail and we might end up having to spend big money on a rookie QB or a free agent QB. Either way if you want a quality QB you have to open your bank account. With that uncertainity and Willis and Davis both needing to be extended I get why the Niners are taking the offseason off.

That's why you got the draft. Make those early picks count.

i love the fact that we are using the "were building through the draft" to justify not trying to sign any impact players. Yes we have undoubtely been building through the draft and yes we have picked up good talent. However, we have been building through the draft for the last 8 freakin years!!and where has that gotten us? our best record8-8 is a direct result of us building through the draft.

How many more years will we be rebuilding through the draft in order to become actual contenders(and NOT just in the nfc west)

Originally posted by momoney925:

Originally posted by Grigga2021:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by Grigga2021:
alright Oakland.....how about some names of some players u'd like to sign from free agency and who u want replaced in our starting line-up?

It's not my job to know all available free agents nor do I care to take the time.




MY ONLY POINT WAS TO SAY STOP FEEDING US A BULLs**t LINE. Thats it! It wasn't a debate on how to build a team. However, I'm pretty sure we could find some guys out there at the RB position.

Reality Check: This is the NFL, big name FA will ALWAYS be over priced (Its simple supply and demand). If you plan to "find a bargain" you better do you homework or you could end up with another B.Jones.

Hows he feeding us b/s when hes telling the truth. We are focused on the draft because this is a very weak FA class. Hes not feeding b/s hes saying how it is. WE DONT WANT OTHER TEAMS GARBAGE.

half of the FA's out there arent garbage bro lol

yeah for the most part thats true but this isnt the only year that weve been too cheap to go out and sign a player. There are still impact players that could help us out and who do the 9ers go after? DAVID CARR

Honestly I'm fine with sitting this free agency out.

Originally posted by dald1:
i love the fact that we are using the "were building through the draft" to justify not trying to sign any impact players. Yes we have undoubtely been building through the draft and yes we have picked up good talent. However, we have been building through the draft for the last 8 freakin years!!and where has that gotten us? our best record8-8 is a direct result of us building through the draft.

How many more years will we be rebuilding through the draft in order to become actual contenders(and NOT just in the nfc west)

Now we're starting to see our high draft picks blossom and come into their own. This is an up and coming team and the number of holes on our team has greatly reduced due to our draft picks starting to pay off.

16 of our 21 starters last year are homegrown. Most are young and entering, or already in, the prime of their careers.

We're very close to being a major threat. We just need a couple of tweaks.

The draft is going to be the big moment for this team's offense. In particular what we do with our first 2 picks.

the year we actually splurged in free agency didn't get us anywhere either..........




we actually do have to sign guys like willis and davis now to long term contracts now rather than later. i don't believe (in this case at least) that scotty's feeding us BS. if willis and davis were to leave a year or two down the road we'd really have a reason to complain about SM not doing his job.

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
the year we actually splurged in free agency didn't get us anywhere either..........




we actually do have to sign guys like willis and davis now to long term contracts now rather than later. i don't believe (in this case at least) that scotty's feeding us BS. if willis and davis were to leave a year or two down the road we'd really have a reason to complain about SM not doing his job.

Big free agency spashes haven't landed us in the playoffs but we'd be a lot farther away than we currently are without the likes of Clements, Lewis, Franklin and Justin Smith.

I think you interpreted the statement the wrong way.

I don't think the fact that we have some big extensions coming up is what is preventing McCloughan from signing players in FA. The problem is that FA is so over-valued right now.

Yes, FA has always been over-valued, but it has never been on the scale that it is on now. Some of these contract are just ridiculous so I can see why McCloughan is hesitant in FA.

-9fA

I see Willis and VD leaving for teams that are more active(FA, trades) in trying to make their teams better. Wouldn't that be ironic.

York is cheap. He always has been. With the exception of Justin Smith and Nate Clements he hasn't signed guys for a lot of money. Of course you could throw in Jonas Jennings also. But over several years we have signed MOSTLY very cheap FA's. And we have gotten what we paid for.

We would be tens of millions under the cap if there was still a cap this year. It's a lie to say we can't get FA's. We could have had Julius Peppers. And he would help us. We could sign guys and our own guys too. Only VD and Willis are going to get huge deals. Most of the other guys are in the moderate range and won't break the bank.

Remember York only signed Jennings, Smith and Clements when the media and fan base gave him very intense criticism over time for being cheap. More recently you see other teams signing guys left and right like the Bears who are improving their team. Our team according to Scot M. has a "self imposed salary cap."

Don't believe the lies of the the YORKIES. They only signed a few guys over a 7 + year period of time to high contracts. For the most part and in most years they have been among the cheapest in all of football. What have they done to improve the team this offseason despite the opportunities that presented themselves?

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
the year we actually splurged in free agency didn't get us anywhere either..........




we actually do have to sign guys like willis and davis now to long term contracts now rather than later. i don't believe (in this case at least) that scotty's feeding us BS. if willis and davis were to leave a year or two down the road we'd really have a reason to complain about SM not doing his job.

Big free agency spashes haven't landed us in the playoffs but we'd be a lot farther away than we currently are without the likes of Clements, Lewis, Franklin and Justin Smith.

same goes for the draft. (willis, davis, gore, crabtree, staley)


but my point wasn't to say splurging in FA was useless, if that's the way i came off. we do need both.