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5 Reasons Alex Smith is Going to Be a Top 5 QB in 2010

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Originally posted by 49faithful_sik:
Alex Smith

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Things haven't gone well for Alex Smith during that last few years. After he was drafted first overall in the 2005 draft he's been hurt, replaced, taken a pay cut, and lost multiple coordinators. This last year we caught a glimpse of why the 49ers drafted him. Alex won his job back, and had a decent year. He completed over 60% of his passes, and for the first time threw more Touchdowns than INT's. Despite Alex's reemergence very few people who still believe Alex Smith has the talent to be a top 5 Quarterback in the NFL. I am one of them. Here are 5 reasons that Alex Smith will have a huge year and become and elite QB.

He could be #32 as long as the team is #1.
Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
Originally posted by ttime1:
Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit of a stretch there.

You know am often considered an Alex Smith "Hater", but based on what I have read in other posts and articles about our O-line being the worst in the NFL...

I am starting to think Sing (coach Kool-aid) and Raye are to blame. With help from Forester, they combined to create what could have been the most ridiculous running game and simplistic pass protection schemes. When you stop and think that runs up the middle were our least productive, yet 70% of all our runs were up the middle, you begin to question the coaching staff's general level of competence to coach at the NFL level.

Taking such a hard look back at last season it is not out of line to think, Smith Gore and the rest of the offense could be much better next year, top 5 rating for Smith hard to say. This offensive team, and I include the O-line when I say this was badly served by the coaching staff, everything from fundamentals to play calling was bush league.

The players are better than there record. If you have built a team of "coachable" players, and then proceed to give them poor coaching, the will listen and put out all the effort in the world, and they will become a reflection of that poor coaching, they will be poor players.

The thing that will hold Alex back, and the rest of the team for that matter is the kind of coaching that runs up the gut even when facts show they can't, the kind of coaching that has 25% of all it's running plays thrown for a loss yet makes no changes to the play calling is not the type of staff that will propel anyone to the top 5 of any list you want your name on!

Could Alex be a top 5 QB? Maybe but not o with this coaching staff.

This is a bunch of writing that throws in the face of the fact that Smith has his BEST year as a pro under this coaching staff. The fact is that they had to run those plays up the middle to keep the defense honest. Otherwise, Smith would have gottem even more preasure. This coaching staff actually COACHED Smith.
OR>>>>
Perhaps a healthy Smith with time to learn this glorified High school Offense Jimmy Raye is running, showed a few flashes of what made him the #1 overall pick!

It's going to take more than a flash to justify his #1 pick status. But what amazes me is that you want to chastize the coaches who basically revived his opportunity to even start and coached him to his best performace as a pro. These coaches have forgotten more football in one nap that you, I and Smith will ever know, yet you want to attribute Smith's glimmer of success solely on Smith? This is the reason why some fans do not like Smith. For it is folks like you who make him up to be something he has not even come close to becoming. You blame everyone else for his short comings; but give credit to no one else for his growth.
he will do good, but not top 5 good.. but who know.. for all i konw he will be joe montana lmao
drew brees
peyton manning
phillip rivers
tom brady
ben r.
schaub
romo (he's still a b***h)

yeah he's not top 5
Originally posted by Shifter:
"Alex Smith is a cerebral QB. To secede Alex needs to know everything that every player is doing on every play."
Ohh that is one of the most hilarious misspellings ever.



Alex Smith will secede and start his own country of unibrow clueless dorks!!


now that was funny....
Originally posted by susweel:
MM must have wrote that article.

"written"

LB
Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit of a stretch there.

You know am often considered an Alex Smith "Hater", but based on what I have read in other posts and articles about our O-line being the worst in the NFL...

I am starting to think Sing (coach Kool-aid) and Raye are to blame. With help from Forester, they combined to create what could have been the most ridiculous running game and simplistic pass protection schemes. When you stop and think that runs up the middle were our least productive, yet 70% of all our runs were up the middle, you begin to question the coaching staff's general level of competence to coach at the NFL level.

Taking such a hard look back at last season it is not out of line to think, Smith Gore and the rest of the offense could be much better next year, top 5 rating for Smith hard to say. This offensive team, and I include the O-line when I say this was badly served by the coaching staff, everything from fundamentals to play calling was bush league.

The players are better than there record. If you have built a team of "coachable" players, and then proceed to give them poor coaching, the will listen and put out all the effort in the world, and they will become a reflection of that poor coaching, they will be poor players.

The thing that will hold Alex back, and the rest of the team for that matter is the kind of coaching that runs up the gut even when facts show they can't, the kind of coaching that has 25% of all it's running plays thrown for a loss yet makes no changes to the play calling is not the type of staff that will propel anyone to the top 5 of any list you want your name on!

Could Alex be a top 5 QB? Maybe but not o with this coaching staff.

We stupidly placed Kory Sheets, our skat/change-up back on the practice squad while keeping three similar types of running backs (Gore, Coffee and Robinson) IN addition to Moran Norris. So all three of those backs specialize in running up the middle, not to the outside. So it's no wonder that we were going 70% of the time up the middle and defenses were waiting for it. It's a testament to Gore that we got any significant yardage at all. So now we still need that skat back...will it be Spiller or possibly Reggie Bush?
A revamped offensive line will definitely help as would a guy like Spiller falling to us at 13(which I'm not sure if going to happen yet). Hopefully our offense with have a little less transparent than it was last year and it will be catered more to the ability of the players and not a system. Field position will help Smith a great deal. All the pieces are in place and now it's just up to Alex. Alex has to work on mechanics and get more reps with his receivers.
Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Top 5!?!?!

well, he does have the ability, the brains, a pro bowl RB, and now with VD and Crabtree a passing threat. plus he now has continuity.

the only thing hes lacking is an OL. every great QB must have an OL, and i think this area will make or break Alex's career with the Niners, whether its his fault or not.
Originally posted by ttime1:
Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
Originally posted by ttime1:
Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit of a stretch there.

You know am often considered an Alex Smith "Hater", but based on what I have read in other posts and articles about our O-line being the worst in the NFL...

I am starting to think Sing (coach Kool-aid) and Raye are to blame. With help from Forester, they combined to create what could have been the most ridiculous running game and simplistic pass protection schemes. When you stop and think that runs up the middle were our least productive, yet 70% of all our runs were up the middle, you begin to question the coaching staff's general level of competence to coach at the NFL level.

Taking such a hard look back at last season it is not out of line to think, Smith Gore and the rest of the offense could be much better next year, top 5 rating for Smith hard to say. This offensive team, and I include the O-line when I say this was badly served by the coaching staff, everything from fundamentals to play calling was bush league.

The players are better than there record. If you have built a team of "coachable" players, and then proceed to give them poor coaching, the will listen and put out all the effort in the world, and they will become a reflection of that poor coaching, they will be poor players.

The thing that will hold Alex back, and the rest of the team for that matter is the kind of coaching that runs up the gut even when facts show they can't, the kind of coaching that has 25% of all it's running plays thrown for a loss yet makes no changes to the play calling is not the type of staff that will propel anyone to the top 5 of any list you want your name on!

Could Alex be a top 5 QB? Maybe but not o with this coaching staff.

This is a bunch of writing that throws in the face of the fact that Smith has his BEST year as a pro under this coaching staff. The fact is that they had to run those plays up the middle to keep the defense honest. Otherwise, Smith would have gottem even more preasure. This coaching staff actually COACHED Smith.
OR>>>>
Perhaps a healthy Smith with time to learn this glorified High school Offense Jimmy Raye is running, showed a few flashes of what made him the #1 overall pick!

It's going to take more than a flash to justify his #1 pick status. But what amazes me is that you want to chastize the coaches who basically revived his opportunity to even start and coached him to his best performace as a pro. These coaches have forgotten more football in one nap that you, I and Smith will ever know, yet you want to attribute Smith's glimmer of success solely on Smith? This is the reason why some fans do not like Smith. For it is folks like you who make him up to be something he has not even come close to becoming. You blame everyone else for his short comings; but give credit to no one else for his growth.

Oh I feel you bro, I am not a big time Smith guy. I think one of the big reasons he showed any signs of life was the SIMPLICITY of the offense, unfortunately the simplicity lead to the predictability of the offense.

And yea I know these guy know more than me, but I can still see what I see....
PUH LEEZE.
Originally posted by Spoonerism:
A revamped offensive line will definitely help as would a guy like Spiller falling to us at 13(which I'm not sure if going to happen yet). Hopefully our offense with have a little less transparent than it was last year and it will be catered more to the ability of the players and not a system. Field position will help Smith a great deal. All the pieces are in place and now it's just up to Alex. Alex has to work on mechanics and get more reps with his receivers.

Another big issue with having backs that only go up the middle...the play action is not as effective. Say Alex rolls left or right on a play action and the defense can eliminate the possibility of a run to the outside...they will guess that it's more likely than not a pass so they can drop back into coverage instead of biting in and letting receivers or Vernon get behind them. We REALLY need a speedy back who can sweep wide or hit the perimeter like Chris Johnson. That...is what I think would help Alex the most and force opponents to respect our run game even more. It'll make Frank more effective too. It'll be a domino effect.

I'm not too optimistic, but if we picked up someone like Brian Westbrook and he could stay healthy for at least 1/2 the games, play him sparingly, imagine our backfield! Gore and Westbrook, the perfect compliment to each other.
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Probably very rough to change QB's [mid-season], change philosophy [mid-season] run to spread/ shotgun,change blocking schemes that were implemented in training camp.Now at [mid-game ,Houston, mid-season ] scrap the whole plan ,and start a new play book that you have to insert new pages every Monday morning and by the next Sunday afternoon look polished.
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Originally posted by cupcheck:
Probably very rough to change QB's [mid-season], change philosophy [mid-season] run to spread/ shotgun,change blocking schemes that were implemented in training camp.Now at [mid-game ,Houston, mid-season ] scrap the whole plan ,and start a new play book that you have to insert new pages every Monday morning and by the next Sunday afternoon look polished.
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
He'll be top 20...maybe.

He'll for sure be in the Top 32.

[ Edited by ROLLiEXROLL on Feb 24, 2010 at 08:21:15 ]
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