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I'd be more happy if it was consistent with every game

if our pass rush didn't disappear against the Falcons, Eagles, Vikings etc...it could have been a different game
[ Edited by BirdmanJr on Jan 3, 2010 at 10:16 PM ]
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While we need to play better against other teams, we performed very well against NFC West teams. 5-1 is a respectable record.
...and top 5 in rushing defense (if not better) top 5 in 3rd down conversions against (if not better) top 5 in points against (if not better).

Yet, I still saw posts saying "What is the improvement that everybody is talking about under Sing?"
I didn't at first believe it but after a full season I have come to believe that pass rush is not our biggest problem. Ahmad Brooks is good and Justin Smith is good. Our Defensive Coordinator is good at scheming sacks with perhaps an under talented pass rusher roster. Some of them are just schemed rather than being dominant pass rusher guys. That's ok though.

Our biggest problems for 2010 are....

~ OL
~ KR/PR
~ Game breaking speed on offense (another WR or CJ Spiller as a speed back). We still really need more weapons.
We where also:

T1st - (23 forced fumbles)

4th - PPG (17.6)

7th - Rush YPG (97)

T-11 (18 Ints)

18th YPG (326.4)

****4th in Points allowed with 281****



See now, I know we are stout against the run and not so good against the pass (21st) but what really means something is the points allowed. We bent but didnt break. Shoot, there where games where the QB had 300 plus YDs and we only gave up 3-6 points.


EDIT: Also seen we have the best defense in the 2nd half. 7 Points Per Game given up in the second half. Too bad sometimes we forgot to show up in the first.
[ Edited by Gore_21 on Jan 3, 2010 at 10:26 PM ]
oh and we are first with not letting opponents score a TD..we did it 5 times
[ Edited by BirdmanJr on Jan 3, 2010 at 10:25 PM ]
Originally posted by BirdmanJr:
I'd be more happy if it was consistent with every game

if our pass rush didn't disappear against the Falcons, Eagles, Vikings etc...it could have been a different game

Of course consistency is still our issue. I doubt Minnesota, Pittsburg didn't have off games either. In fact, the game against the niners: After the first play of the game where Jared Allen sacked S Hill (he was offsides but no call), they didnt get a sack the rest of the game.

We are a young team and I believe it will only improve. Last year, we were 15th in sacks. For posters that keep harping that we have the worst pass rush, blah blah makes me ROFL.
[ Edited by kronik on Jan 3, 2010 at 10:28 PM ]
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Our issues this year were on Offense...starting with the Oline and ending at QB.
Originally posted by jcs:
Our issues this year were on Offense...starting with the Oline and ending at QB.

Isn't O Line pretty related to how a QB plays?
We are also second in the NFC West and not in the playoffs...
Originally posted by kronik:
Originally posted by BirdmanJr:
I'd be more happy if it was consistent with every game

if our pass rush didn't disappear against the Falcons, Eagles, Vikings etc...it could have been a different game

Of course consistency is still our issue. I doubt Minnesota, Pittsburg didn't have off games either. In fact, the game against the niners: After the first play of the game where Jared Allen sacked S Hill (he was offsides but no call), they didnt get a sack the rest of the game.

We are a young team and I believe it will only imporve. Last year, we were 15th in sacks. For posters that keep harping that we have the worst pass rush, blah blah makes me ROFL.

Yeah the pass rusher issue isn't as big as a need as it was last season, hopefully Brooks can step up and be that guy. I think OL, safety and a quick receiver/rb/pr are bigger issues right now
Originally posted by Gore_21:
We where also:

T1st - (23 forced fumbles)

4th - PPG (17.6)

7th - Rush YPG (97)

T-11 (18 Ints)

18th YPG (326.4)

****4th in Points allowed with 281****



See now, I know we are stout against the run and not so good against the pass (21st) but what really means something is the points allowed. We bent but didnt break. Shoot, there where games where the QB had 300 plus YDs and we only gave up 3-6 points.


EDIT: Also seen we have the best defense in the 2nd half. 7 Points Per Game given up in the second half. Too bad sometimes we forgot to show up in the first.

Are u sure we are 18th in YPG? Why does NFL.com show us at 15th?

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=2009&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TOTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1
Originally posted by BirdmanJr:
I'd be more happy if it was consistent with every game

if our pass rush didn't disappear against the Falcons, Eagles, Vikings etc...it could have been a different game

That happens, even Pitt, Vikings, have a weeks off. The last team that didn't have a week off on a game (not necessarily a pass rush) was the '72 Dolphins...I'll live with knowing the Niners are not perfect yet...

I swear...some people just want the whole f**king arm, a hand is not enough.
Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
Originally posted by BirdmanJr:
I'd be more happy if it was consistent with every game

if our pass rush didn't disappear against the Falcons, Eagles, Vikings etc...it could have been a different game

That happens, even Pitt, Vikings, have a weeks off. The last team that didn't have a week off on a game (not necessarily a pass rush) was the '72 Dolphins...I'll live with knowing the Niners are not perfect yet...

I swear...some people just want the whole f**king arm, a hand is not enough.

I'm not saying we need to get 5 sacks a game, I'm talking about at least getting some pressure on the QB. Against those teams I've posted above the pass rush completely disappeared and Ryan and McNabb were able to completely pick apart our secondary...that can't happen against the good teams..all I'm saying.
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