Smiths Accuracy

Originally posted by excelsior:
For the most part, McNaab had lots of time to throw, and he still managed to throw 2 INTs.

On the other hand, Alex was rushed relentlessly. It appears that he frequently was unable to find open recievers. Many of the replays showed Morgan and Davis giving up on plays, or Alex motioning Davis to keep on going. There was the play when Carbtree just stopped, as Alex waited for him to keep running.

Between the penalties, dropped passes, stupid, inexperienced route running, and very poor pass protection, it is a miracle Alex didn't just throw his helmet on the ground and walk off the field in disgust. He may not have played well, but it is no wonder - he is playing with very little support.

Yeah don't forget how dumbass Snyder killed a big gain to Morgan and a few other penalties.

Sorry, but I have watched a few games with Manning and Brady. Imagining them playing behind our OL, with Davis, Walker and Morgan dropping passes, etc, I am certain they would look much, much less accomplished.

Originally posted by excelsior:
Sorry, but I have watched a few games with Manning and Brady. Imagining them playing behind our OL, with Davis, Walker and Morgan dropping passes, etc, I am certain they would look much, much less accomplished.

They have played behind crappy lines at one point or another and have excelled. Rodgers has a crap line and still leads his teams to some wins. Minnesota had the worst OL in the league beginning this year but Favre changed that. A QB who knows where to go with the ball can make an OL look much better.

The Eagles blitzed 2 or 3 guys at times and there were quick throws open. Alex must make these reads and hit the hot route quicker and stop running back and around looking deep.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by excelsior:
Sorry, but I have watched a few games with Manning and Brady. Imagining them playing behind our OL, with Davis, Walker and Morgan dropping passes, etc, I am certain they would look much, much less accomplished.

They have played behind crappy lines at one point or another and have excelled. Rodgers has a crap line and still leads his teams to some wins. Minnesota had the worst OL in the league beginning this year but Favre changed that. A QB who knows where to go with the ball can make an OL look much better.

The Eagles blitzed 2 or 3 guys at times and there were quick throws open. Alex must make these reads and hit the hot route quicker and stop running back and around looking deep.

It did get extremely frustrating with the blitzes and the constant rollout throw-aways. They need to have some hotreads available to counter the blitz. EXTREMELY annoying

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by excelsior:
Sorry, but I have watched a few games with Manning and Brady. Imagining them playing behind our OL, with Davis, Walker and Morgan dropping passes, etc, I am certain they would look much, much less accomplished.

They have played behind crappy lines at one point or another and have excelled. Rodgers has a crap line and still leads his teams to some wins. Minnesota had the worst OL in the league beginning this year but Favre changed that. A QB who knows where to go with the ball can make an OL look much better.

The Eagles blitzed 2 or 3 guys at times and there were quick throws open. Alex must make these reads and hit the hot route quicker and stop running back and around looking deep.

This is true, I'll give you that. That said, GB's OL has played really well since they played us and gave up like 7 sacks in those 5 games. They're like 4-1 in those games. The 8 games before that they gave up the most sacks in the league and were 4-4. Rodgers OL has gotten better as guys got a bit healthier and they changed up a few things. I'm not saying he doesn't do a tremendous job, because he does.

Originally posted by WestCoast:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by excelsior:
Sorry, but I have watched a few games with Manning and Brady. Imagining them playing behind our OL, with Davis, Walker and Morgan dropping passes, etc, I am certain they would look much, much less accomplished.

They have played behind crappy lines at one point or another and have excelled. Rodgers has a crap line and still leads his teams to some wins. Minnesota had the worst OL in the league beginning this year but Favre changed that. A QB who knows where to go with the ball can make an OL look much better.

The Eagles blitzed 2 or 3 guys at times and there were quick throws open. Alex must make these reads and hit the hot route quicker and stop running back and around looking deep.

It did get extremely frustrating with the blitzes and the constant rollout throw-aways. They need to have some hotreads available to counter the blitz. EXTREMELY annoying

If they don't have hot reads, then this isn't an NFL offense. I'm sure they had hot reads but by judging how bad Smith was at reading the defense today, I think they flustered him more than anything.

INT 1: CB on Vernon showed blitz and did blitz putting Vernon on a LB. Smith saw this but he didn't see that 27 on the other side immediately sprinted back to help on Vernon.

INT 2: This was a rookie mistake. Safeties played the sidelines meaning help over the top which meant the Samuel is staying home and Smith still tries to hit the out.

INT 3: At this point, I didn't care.

Smith is incredible accurate. Unfortunately he is color blind so he doesn't know which team he's throwing to.

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by excelsior:
Sorry, but I have watched a few games with Manning and Brady. Imagining them playing behind our OL, with Davis, Walker and Morgan dropping passes, etc, I am certain they would look much, much less accomplished.

They have played behind crappy lines at one point or another and have excelled. Rodgers has a crap line and still leads his teams to some wins. Minnesota had the worst OL in the league beginning this year but Favre changed that. A QB who knows where to go with the ball can make an OL look much better.

The Eagles blitzed 2 or 3 guys at times and there were quick throws open. Alex must make these reads and hit the hot route quicker and stop running back and around looking deep.

This is true, I'll give you that. That said, GB's OL has played really well since they played us and gave up like 7 sacks in those 5 games. They're like 4-1 in those games. The 8 games before that they gave up the most sacks in the league and were 4-4. Rodgers OL has gotten better as guys got a bit healthier and they changed up a few things. I'm not saying he doesn't do a tremendous job, because he does.

Our OL has played well in the last 3 or 4 games also, yet we still only won 2 games.

Originally posted by leolion:
Smith is incredible accurate. Unfortunately he is color blind so he doesn't know which team he's throwing to.

If you notice, our receivers are jumping on just about every reception, especially the 10 to 15 yards drag routes. Smith is still throwing them high instead of leading them.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by excelsior:
Sorry, but I have watched a few games with Manning and Brady. Imagining them playing behind our OL, with Davis, Walker and Morgan dropping passes, etc, I am certain they would look much, much less accomplished.

They have played behind crappy lines at one point or another and have excelled. Rodgers has a crap line and still leads his teams to some wins. Minnesota had the worst OL in the league beginning this year but Favre changed that. A QB who knows where to go with the ball can make an OL look much better.

The Eagles blitzed 2 or 3 guys at times and there were quick throws open. Alex must make these reads and hit the hot route quicker and stop running back and around looking deep.

This is true, I'll give you that. That said, GB's OL has played really well since they played us and gave up like 7 sacks in those 5 games. They're like 4-1 in those games. The 8 games before that they gave up the most sacks in the league and were 4-4. Rodgers OL has gotten better as guys got a bit healthier and they changed up a few things. I'm not saying he doesn't do a tremendous job, because he does.

Our OL has played well in the last 3 or 4 games also, yet we still only won 2 games.

They played well vs AZ and Seattle and Jacksonville, we won 2/3 of those games, turnovers killed us in the Seattle game, Smith played poorly in the first half of this game(3 INTs), OL played poorly in the 2nd half.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by leolion:
Smith is incredible accurate. Unfortunately he is color blind so he doesn't know which team he's throwing to.

If you notice, our receivers are jumping on just about every reception, especially the 10 to 15 yards drag routes. Smith is still throwing them high instead of leading them.

I noticed.

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by excelsior:
Sorry, but I have watched a few games with Manning and Brady. Imagining them playing behind our OL, with Davis, Walker and Morgan dropping passes, etc, I am certain they would look much, much less accomplished.

They have played behind crappy lines at one point or another and have excelled. Rodgers has a crap line and still leads his teams to some wins. Minnesota had the worst OL in the league beginning this year but Favre changed that. A QB who knows where to go with the ball can make an OL look much better.

The Eagles blitzed 2 or 3 guys at times and there were quick throws open. Alex must make these reads and hit the hot route quicker and stop running back and around looking deep.

This is true, I'll give you that. That said, GB's OL has played really well since they played us and gave up like 7 sacks in those 5 games. They're like 4-1 in those games. The 8 games before that they gave up the most sacks in the league and were 4-4. Rodgers OL has gotten better as guys got a bit healthier and they changed up a few things. I'm not saying he doesn't do a tremendous job, because he does.

Our OL has played well in the last 3 or 4 games also, yet we still only won 2 games.

They played well vs AZ and Seattle and Jacksonville, we won 2/3 of those games, turnovers killed us in the Seattle game, Smith played poorly in the first half of this game(3 INTs), OL played poorly in the 2nd half.

Smith has only played well in 1 full game: JAX.

One thing I don't understand is why does he keep trying to challenge the Defense's best DB's?

ARI Safety last week and Samuel this week. Man!

I thought the one thing Alex supposedly had was good accuracy. I have yet to see him throw an accurate pass beyond 10 yards. EVERY deep ball he attempts is off at least a little. It's not as obvious sometimes if the receiver is wide open, but it seems that on 95% of his passes the receivers have to adjust to catch the ball.

A QB who is supposed to be accurate shouldn't be throwing high and behind his tight end on a crossing route. I think Smith leaves 100 or more yards on the field each game because he either misses his receivers entirely, or throws it to a place where they have to adjust and can't continue running fluidly.

I was really hoping that Smith would take the next step here to end the season and give us something to look forward to for next year. As it is, I don't see how the kid is going to be much better in '10, which means we're probably going to have to suffer through another year of mediocre offense, and in all likelihood, inconsistent defense.

Originally posted by trogdor:
I thought the one thing Alex supposedly had was good accuracy. I have yet to see him throw an accurate pass beyond 10 yards. EVERY deep ball he attempts is off at least a little. It's not as obvious sometimes if the receiver is wide open, but it seems that on 95% of his passes the receivers have to adjust to catch the ball.

A QB who is supposed to be accurate shouldn't be throwing high and behind his tight end on a crossing route. I think Smith leaves 100 or more yards on the field each game because he either misses his receivers entirely, or throws it to a place where they have to adjust and can't continue running fluidly.

I was really hoping that Smith would take the next step here to end the season and give us something to look forward to for next year. As it is, I don't see how the kid is going to be much better in '10, which means we're probably going to have to suffer through another year of mediocre offense, and in all likelihood, inconsistent defense.

What's worse now is that these next two games have no meaning on the Alex Smith evaluation because the teams we play are so pathetic. This is why Nate should get a chance to taste live games. Not to compete for next years starting job but just to get a taste of regular season speed.

Originally posted by dave1003:

Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:

Originally posted by ginseng1000:
you guys crack me up....this post is about Alex Smith's accuracy...his deep ball, etc...

if you want to complain about the oline...post on a different topic...

Alexcuses continuous he does not possess the tools to be our QB hope we draft or get Davis ready!

Accuracy is just terrible always has been and always will. Small Hands!

Yeah, And Nate Davis playing against the Lions and Rams will prove alot, CONTINUITY. Play SMITH til season's end and evaluate.

9ERS FANS ARE IMPATIENT. CALM THE F*$K DOWN. Rookie coach, 1st year coordinator, switch midway through season at QB, rookie receiver with no TC and the WORST offensive line in football according FootballOutsiders. But, yeah, Nate Davis is the savior.

I am in no way calling Nate Davis the savior. What I want is the coaching staff to evaluate what we have in Nate Davis. Obviously, we have been evaluating Alex Smith for the past few years. We can evaluate Smith for another year, but I really believe Smith is just a mediocre QB.