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Originally posted by xx49erfanxx:
Originally posted by Bobbi9698:
Originally posted by ZRF80:
Its amazing how you can skew stats to portray your point of view. Im sure we could twist things to make Alex look the GOAT.

You dont need stats to see how bad Alex Smith is. Just watch a Niners game; you'll get the point.

He locks on Receivers, has happy feet, and can only perform after he has lost the game...what else do you need to know?

I think ur still watching Jeff Garcia , u have to be with the happy feet comment and locking on to rec . May be you should put away all those old games and watch the new 49ers and come back here and post.

From Sidney Mayhew on this WEBZONE site main page today:

"If you look at the film, Alex fails to see the entire field and his eyes get locked on a particular receiver. He fails to understand accurately either mentally or via communication where the receiver is going to be. Not so with Aaron Rodgers who tutored under future Hall of Fame quarterback Brett Favre and who understands and appreciates a great offensive mind in Mike McCarthy as his head coach. On top of this the team had literally another bye week to prepare for the Green Bay Packers after beating the Chicago Bears on a Thursday Night Special on NFL Network.

Alex is tentative under center because he has a porous offensive line literally destroyed with injuries to left tackle Joe Staley and left guard David Baas. Even more so with less than average play from the weak right side in Adam Snyder and second-year man Chilo Rachal. The time clock in Alex's head has to mean something to him as many times as visualized Alex is penalized for delay of game. On top of that he is tentative still on getting rid of the ball and still unable to determine where some of the pass rush is coming from. "

What QB are you looking at, Aaron Rogers???
This is hilarious people see ACTUALY STATISTICS thrown at them not just facts...actual numbers PROVING he is doing his job and they still complain? The guy is putting the ball in the endzone more then anyone BUT Drew Brees while being under pressure and sacked more then 3/4 of the NFL quarterbacks. How can you deny facts, well atleast we can add more forums fans to the *idiot* section lol. He gets sacked as much as Rodgers and Roethlisberger yet he puts the ball in the endzone more then either, yet he doesn't have the Pitt or GB defense to help him out. Case closed the stats are there, open your eyes people the quarterback isn't the problem.
Originally posted by Thrash88:
This is hilarious people see ACTUALY STATISTICS thrown at them not just facts...actual numbers PROVING he is doing his job and they still complain? The guy is putting the ball in the endzone more then anyone BUT Drew Brees while being under pressure and sacked more then 3/4 of the NFL quarterbacks. How can you deny facts, well atleast we can add more forums fans to the *idiot* section lol. He gets sacked as much as Rodgers and Roethlisberger yet he puts the ball in the endzone more then either, yet he doesn't have the Pitt or GB defense to help him out. Case closed the stats are there, open your eyes people the quarterback isn't the problem.

Smith haters will deny facts and fight back with fictional non rational and illogical arguments. they have since day one and they will continue till the day he retires. The guy can take the team to the SB and be the MVP of the SB and Smith haters will still be calling him a bust and calling for him to be cut.
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by Thrash88:
This is hilarious people see ACTUALY STATISTICS thrown at them not just facts...actual numbers PROVING he is doing his job and they still complain? The guy is putting the ball in the endzone more then anyone BUT Drew Brees while being under pressure and sacked more then 3/4 of the NFL quarterbacks. How can you deny facts, well atleast we can add more forums fans to the *idiot* section lol. He gets sacked as much as Rodgers and Roethlisberger yet he puts the ball in the endzone more then either, yet he doesn't have the Pitt or GB defense to help him out. Case closed the stats are there, open your eyes people the quarterback isn't the problem.

Smith haters will deny facts and fight back with fictional non rational and illogical arguments. they have since day one and they will continue till the day he retires. The guy can take the team to the SB and be the MVP of the SB and Smith haters will still be calling him a bust and calling for him to be cut.

Originally posted by Bobbi9698:
Originally posted by xx49erfanxx:
Originally posted by Bobbi9698:
Originally posted by ZRF80:
Its amazing how you can skew stats to portray your point of view. Im sure we could twist things to make Alex look the GOAT.

You dont need stats to see how bad Alex Smith is. Just watch a Niners game; you'll get the point.

He locks on Receivers, has happy feet, and can only perform after he has lost the game...what else do you need to know?

I think ur still watching Jeff Garcia , u have to be with the happy feet comment and locking on to rec . May be you should put away all those old games and watch the new 49ers and come back here and post.

From Sidney Mayhew on this WEBZONE site main page today:

"If you look at the film, Alex fails to see the entire field and his eyes get locked on a particular receiver. He fails to understand accurately either mentally or via communication where the receiver is going to be. Not so with Aaron Rodgers who tutored under future Hall of Fame quarterback Brett Favre and who understands and appreciates a great offensive mind in Mike McCarthy as his head coach. On top of this the team had literally another bye week to prepare for the Green Bay Packers after beating the Chicago Bears on a Thursday Night Special on NFL Network.

Alex is tentative under center because he has a porous offensive line literally destroyed with injuries to left tackle Joe Staley and left guard David Baas. Even more so with less than average play from the weak right side in Adam Snyder and second-year man Chilo Rachal. The time clock in Alex's head has to mean something to him as many times as visualized Alex is penalized for delay of game. On top of that he is tentative still on getting rid of the ball and still unable to determine where some of the pass rush is coming from. "

What QB are you looking at, Aaron Rogers???
Bobbi go to the Raiders board , they welcome fans like you .
Originally posted by xx49erfanxx:
Originally posted by Bobbi9698:
Originally posted by xx49erfanxx:
Originally posted by Bobbi9698:
Originally posted by ZRF80:
Its amazing how you can skew stats to portray your point of view. Im sure we could twist things to make Alex look the GOAT.

You dont need stats to see how bad Alex Smith is. Just watch a Niners game; you'll get the point.

He locks on Receivers, has happy feet, and can only perform after he has lost the game...what else do you need to know?

I think ur still watching Jeff Garcia , u have to be with the happy feet comment and locking on to rec . May be you should put away all those old games and watch the new 49ers and come back here and post.

From Sidney Mayhew on this WEBZONE site main page today:

"If you look at the film, Alex fails to see the entire field and his eyes get locked on a particular receiver. He fails to understand accurately either mentally or via communication where the receiver is going to be. Not so with Aaron Rodgers who tutored under future Hall of Fame quarterback Brett Favre and who understands and appreciates a great offensive mind in Mike McCarthy as his head coach. On top of this the team had literally another bye week to prepare for the Green Bay Packers after beating the Chicago Bears on a Thursday Night Special on NFL Network.

Alex is tentative under center because he has a porous offensive line literally destroyed with injuries to left tackle Joe Staley and left guard David Baas. Even more so with less than average play from the weak right side in Adam Snyder and second-year man Chilo Rachal. The time clock in Alex's head has to mean something to him as many times as visualized Alex is penalized for delay of game. On top of that he is tentative still on getting rid of the ball and still unable to determine where some of the pass rush is coming from. "

What QB are you looking at, Aaron Rogers???
Bobbi go to the Raiders board , they welcome fans like you .

I am a fan...that's why I am sick of losing and not having ANY QB (hill, JTO, Alex) who can win...
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by Thrash88:
This is hilarious people see ACTUALY STATISTICS thrown at them not just facts...actual numbers PROVING he is doing his job and they still complain? The guy is putting the ball in the endzone more then anyone BUT Drew Brees while being under pressure and sacked more then 3/4 of the NFL quarterbacks. How can you deny facts, well atleast we can add more forums fans to the *idiot* section lol. He gets sacked as much as Rodgers and Roethlisberger yet he puts the ball in the endzone more then either, yet he doesn't have the Pitt or GB defense to help him out. Case closed the stats are there, open your eyes people the quarterback isn't the problem.

Smith haters will deny facts and fight back with fictional non rational and illogical arguments. they have since day one and they will continue till the day he retires. The guy can take the team to the SB and be the MVP of the SB and Smith haters will still be calling him a bust and calling for him to be cut.
Ya Smith is not the 49ers problem , OL is a huge problem here . It is so funny that we have some fans that have no idea about football , and will come here and blame Smith for everything. But fav ones are less bring in Nate , I get a great laugh at those all the time.
I am sick of losing too but I'm not blind to the point of blaming Alex Smith THIS YEAR for his production this year he's been playing pretty good for what he's been offered. Shown by the statistics he's performing above average. In the past he didn't, and now you can see he is so when all the special children realize that he is doing his job and is not at fault for this year's record.
Originally posted by Bobbi9698:
Originally posted by xx49erfanxx:
Originally posted by Bobbi9698:
Originally posted by xx49erfanxx:
Originally posted by Bobbi9698:
Originally posted by ZRF80:
Its amazing how you can skew stats to portray your point of view. Im sure we could twist things to make Alex look the GOAT.

You dont need stats to see how bad Alex Smith is. Just watch a Niners game; you'll get the point.

He locks on Receivers, has happy feet, and can only perform after he has lost the game...what else do you need to know?

I think ur still watching Jeff Garcia , u have to be with the happy feet comment and locking on to rec . May be you should put away all those old games and watch the new 49ers and come back here and post.

From Sidney Mayhew on this WEBZONE site main page today:

"If you look at the film, Alex fails to see the entire field and his eyes get locked on a particular receiver. He fails to understand accurately either mentally or via communication where the receiver is going to be. Not so with Aaron Rodgers who tutored under future Hall of Fame quarterback Brett Favre and who understands and appreciates a great offensive mind in Mike McCarthy as his head coach. On top of this the team had literally another bye week to prepare for the Green Bay Packers after beating the Chicago Bears on a Thursday Night Special on NFL Network.

Alex is tentative under center because he has a porous offensive line literally destroyed with injuries to left tackle Joe Staley and left guard David Baas. Even more so with less than average play from the weak right side in Adam Snyder and second-year man Chilo Rachal. The time clock in Alex's head has to mean something to him as many times as visualized Alex is penalized for delay of game. On top of that he is tentative still on getting rid of the ball and still unable to determine where some of the pass rush is coming from. "

What QB are you looking at, Aaron Rogers???
Bobbi go to the Raiders board , they welcome fans like you .

I am a fan...that's why I am sick of losing and not having ANY QB (hill, JTO, Alex) who can win...

A QB takes time , Alex has been in the NFL for 4 years now . And yes he was hurt for two of those . The kid is 25 years old , give him a chance now that he has a few weapons . Sure he is going to have some bad games just like every QB , but he is throwing the ball pretty well .
Some people on here are just biased. My brother is the same way. He hates Alex Smith. It has nothing to do with how good he is. I think it's like the girl that chewed your heart up and spit it out. These haters have been hurt before and they're sensitive. Give them time to realize Alex Smith has changed. lol

Originally posted by Bobbi9698:
Originally posted by ZRF80:
Its amazing how you can skew stats to portray your point of view. Im sure we could twist things to make Alex look the GOAT.

You dont need stats to see how bad Alex Smith is. Just watch a Niners game; you'll get the point.

He locks on Receivers, has happy feet, and can only perform after he has lost the game...what else do you need to know?

You two are pathetic.

"You don't need stats..."? Yeah, how he rates against other QB's in the league means nothing. Let's see how he rates against CFL QB's. And they're skewed huh? If you can find the real numbers, then post them or STFU!

"After HE lost the game.."? Last time I checked, he only plays 1 position.

Anyway, wins are the bottom line(which we're not getting), and given the facts posted in the original post, it's plain to see that Alex should not take the majority of the blame. Some of the blame, of course, but not to the point of some of you thinking that he's the only problem.
The only stat that matters is WINS
Originally posted by FourNine49:
The only stat that matters is WINS

I agree, but if you wanna play the blame game, there's plenty of it to go around.
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Originally posted by FourNine49:
The only stat that matters is WINS

Hahahahahahahaha.

Stupid argument. Winning has as much to do with the talent around you as it does the QB.

Alex Smith has made great strides this year. I hate our play calling but you can't put Houston on him--he's not the one that let them get up by 20 pts at the half. He's not the one who couldn't stop the Colts during the 4th quarter

If you want to lay a loss at his feet blame the TN loss because of his bad day. OTOH TN is now 4-0 with VY in and are playing football like the 13-3 team they were last year.
Originally posted by Thrash88:
This is just me going on NFL.com and taking the statistic and seein how each quarterback is rated per 100 throws.

I broke it down in 3 categories from touchdowns, interceptions and times sacked per 100 throws.

Tom Brady
5.08 Touchdowns/1.52 Interceptions/Sacked 3.56 Times per 100 Passing Attempts

Peyton Manning
5.41 Touchdowns/2.31 Interceptions/Sacked 2.06 Times per 100 Passing Attempts

Matt Schaub
5.20 Touchdowns/2.46 Interceptions/Sacked 5.20 Times per 100 Passing Attempts

Ben Roethlisberger
4.94 Touchdowns/2.9 Interceptions/Sacked 8.72 Times per 100 Passing Attempts

Aaron Rodgers
5.57 Touchdowns/1.46 Interceptions/Sacked 12.60 Times per 100 Passing Attempts

Drew Brees
6.87 Touchdowns/2.81 Interceptions/Sacked 4.06 Times per 100 Passing Attempts

Kurt Warner
5.37 Touchdowns/2.95 Interceptions/Sacked 4.30 Times per 100 Passing Attempts

Tony Romo
4.54 Touchdowns/2.12 Interceptions/Sacked 6.96 Times per 100 Passing Attempts

Philip Rivers
5.29 Touchdowns/1.86 Interceptions/Sacked 6.23 Times per 100 Passing Attempts

Joe Flacco
3.58 Touchdowns/1.86 Interceptions/Sacked 5.37 Times per 100 Passing Attempts

Alex Smith
5.80 Touchdowns/4.51 Interceptions/Sacked 8.38 Times per 100 Passing Attempts


So as per throwing attempt he ranks 2nd behind Brees, he gets the ball in the endzone more then Manning, Brady, Schaub, Rodgers, Warner etcc....He does turnover the ball a bit more but that will come with time he's already putting up HUGE numbers per attempt. And that is while he is getting sacked more often then all but 2 of the above mentions quarterbacks.

We have a quarterback here folks it's up to the coaching staff to utilize him and get him to cut down on the turnovers as he grows with the offense![/b]

This is great. I bet if you show your little chart to any of those other QB's coaches they'd want to trade. They'd probably throw in a first round pick, just to get their hands on young Alex. In fact, if I were you, I'd start with Norv. He always said that Smith was phenomenal. Smith for Rivers and, maybe, two draft picks. Turner would be a fool to turn that down after he sees your stats.
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