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Nov 3, 2009 at 9:16 AM

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Originally posted by RDB4216:
Originally posted by jcs:
At the start of this season the consensus was that the strength of our D was the LB's...but as of late the pass rushing of this D appears to be coming from the DLine. Maybe it's time to give up on pass rushing with our LB's and just move back to the 4-3 so we can have more of our better rushers in the game at one time?

In a 4-3, the defensive linemen are generally smaller - more athletic and quick. Look at Dwight Freeney...now look at Isaac Sopoaga and Kentwan Balmer? See a difference? Look at a guy like Bryant Young...and look at Franklin. See a difference? We spent a couple of years trying to play a 3-4 without having the right people for it. Now we finally have people that fit the system and playing well, and you want to try to fit 3-4 people into a 4-3?? Nolan...is that you playing some kind of a joke??

Justin Smith would do well in a 4-3, and Ray McDonald would at tackle. Balmer would have, but he's bulked up a lot to play in the 3-4. That's about it.

Nice post. And yes, now that the 3-4 is functioning ok, seems like a good time to tear it down and start again.

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Nov 3, 2009 at 9:17 AM

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Originally posted by jcs:
At the start of this season the consensus was that the strength of our D was the LB's...but as of late the pass rushing of this D appears to be coming from the DLine. Maybe it's time to give up on pass rushing with our LB's and just move back to the 4-3 so we can have more of our better rushers in the game at one time?

Are you serious? Really are you serious?

Nov 3, 2009 at 9:22 AM

#33

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Originally posted by Antix:
WTF!!!!???

We held the best QB in the league to NO TD passes and you wanna switch up the D?!?!?

:Face palm pic goes here:

Yeah...I just dont get people on here!

Even stuff like wanting to get rid of Raye....but then b!tch later on about how we have no continuity at OC and the Offense?!

[ Edited by 9erluv415 on Nov 3, 2009 at 09:23:06 ]

Nov 3, 2009 at 9:24 AM

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Originally posted by jcs:
At the start of this season the consensus was that the strength of our D was the LB's...but as of late the pass rushing of this D appears to be coming from the DLine. Maybe it's time to give up on pass rushing with our LB's and just move back to the 4-3 so we can have more of our better rushers in the game at one time?

I don't think we need to go that far but I think drafting a big passrushing LB would improve our pass D dramatically.

Nov 3, 2009 at 9:26 AM

#35

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Originally posted by jcs:
At the start of this season the consensus was that the strength of our D was the LB's...but as of late the pass rushing of this D appears to be coming from the DLine. Maybe it's time to give up on pass rushing with our LB's and just move back to the 4-3 so we can have more of our better rushers in the game at one time?

Great idea, lets change 4-3.

Nov 3, 2009 at 9:33 AM

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Originally posted by jcs:
At the start of this season the consensus was that the strength of our D was the LB's...but as of late the pass rushing of this D appears to be coming from the DLine. Maybe it's time to give up on pass rushing with our LB's and just move back to the 4-3 so we can have more of our better rushers in the game at one time?

Shut the F#$K up. Defense is not the problem, when you hold Peyton Manning (Future Hall of famer) out the End zone for the entire game; Defense is not your problem.

Nov 3, 2009 at 9:35 AM

#37

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Originally posted by x49ersx123:
Originally posted by jcs:
At the start of this season the consensus was that the strength of our D was the LB's...but as of late the pass rushing of this D appears to be coming from the DLine. Maybe it's time to give up on pass rushing with our LB's and just move back to the 4-3 so we can have more of our better rushers in the game at one time?

Shut the F#$K up. Defense is not the problem, when you hold Peyton Manning (Future Hall of famer) out the End zone for the entire game; Defense is not your problem.

Agreed. I also noticed that the Defense seems to play A LOT better when the offense is rolling. Once that defense gets pumped up they are almost unstoppable.

Nov 3, 2009 at 10:18 AM

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Nov 3, 2009 at 10:27 AM

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This is such a stupid thread. First thing first we are number one against the run. The offense is the problem on this team not the defense. This defense would be on the top 5 if our secondary are not banged up.

Nov 3, 2009 at 10:27 AM

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I think we need to close this thread now. It's served its purpose already.

Nov 3, 2009 at 10:34 AM

#41

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Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:
Originally posted by 49wyztoscore:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by tohara3:
No thanks

Nov 3, 2009 at 10:42 AM

#42

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Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by Chief:
Our defense works, how about we fix our offense...?

this

That.

Nov 3, 2009 at 10:45 AM

#43

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Originally posted by FILTHpigskin:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by Chief:
Our defense works, how about we fix our offense...?

this

That.

Can we change the offense to a 4-3?

Nov 3, 2009 at 10:47 AM

#44

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it looks like theres a lot of indecision in the zone about this topic and i think it warrants further discussion

Nov 3, 2009 at 10:53 AM

#45

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Originally posted by RDB4216:
Originally posted by jcs:
At the start of this season the consensus was that the strength of our D was the LB's...but as of late the pass rushing of this D appears to be coming from the DLine. Maybe it's time to give up on pass rushing with our LB's and just move back to the 4-3 so we can have more of our better rushers in the game at one time?

In a 4-3, the defensive linemen are generally smaller - more athletic and quick. Look at Dwight Freeney...now look at Isaac Sopoaga and Kentwan Balmer? See a difference? Look at a guy like Bryant Young...and look at Franklin. See a difference? We spent a couple of years trying to play a 3-4 without having the right people for it. Now we finally have people that fit the system and playing well, and you want to try to fit 3-4 people into a 4-3?? Nolan...is that you playing some kind of a joke??

Justin Smith would do well in a 4-3, and Ray McDonald would at tackle. Balmer would have, but he's bulked up a lot to play in the 3-4. That's about it.

Franklin couldn't hold Bryant Young's jock. Also Franklin plays NT and Young played LDE when they went to a 3-4.

Everyones all happy that we held Manning out of the endzone but we did give up 347 passing yds. How about when the Texans and Falcons rolled up our team? No pressure and lots of mental errors in the first half of each game. We had one game we did ok in Indy and everyone thinks we're fixed. Let's see us do well against the Titans and Bears before we say we're ok.

O-line and pass rusher in the off season.