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  • B650
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Originally posted by BrianGO:
Originally posted by B650:
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Crabtree's stats vs the Texans: 6 catches 98 yards 1td

If that happens, then whenever Mike Singletary looks at his team, and tells them it is all about hard work and "paying the price," they will never be able to believe him.

Its obviously about talent, and not hard work if Crabtree can just waltz into the NFL and start playing.

All those tough days of training camp? For WHAT?

Or they'll think, "This guy will do whatever it takes to win," which I'm sure they'll respect. Don't you think the defense is a little tired of all those three-and-outs? It showed in Atlanta. If anything, the players probably LOVE the fact that Crabtree is going to start.

Look, if Crabtree is the best player, then he definitely should play. Get him in there as fast as possible. I have no problem with that whatsoever.

I am just making the observation, that if Crabtree can start and have a good game against the Texans, then it will blow the whole "must have a real tough training camp" thing out of the water.

You know the Rams also had a real tough training camp.

Tough training camps can wear thin, VERY fast, if the coaching staff is not careful.

Let's say Crabtree blows up the NFL like Moss did his rookie year.

Next seasons training camp will be very interesting, because it will be very tough for Singletary (or any team for that matter) to sell the idea that your seasons success depends upon how hard you work in training camp.

Crabtree and the Rams will have blown that out of the water by next season.

So I am arguing against hard training camps, not Crabtree starting.

I don't think so, because every position is different and every player is different. Just because Crabtree (a WR) could pull it off, doesn't mean the entire team should expect to miss camp (or have a light camp) and play well.
[ Edited by B650 on Oct 19, 2009 at 4:52 PM ]
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Originally posted by B650:
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Originally posted by B650:
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Crabtree's stats vs the Texans: 6 catches 98 yards 1td

If that happens, then whenever Mike Singletary looks at his team, and tells them it is all about hard work and "paying the price," they will never be able to believe him.

Its obviously about talent, and not hard work if Crabtree can just waltz into the NFL and start playing.

All those tough days of training camp? For WHAT?

Or they'll think, "This guy will do whatever it takes to win," which I'm sure they'll respect. Don't you think the defense is a little tired of all those three-and-outs? It showed in Atlanta. If anything, the players probably LOVE the fact that Crabtree is going to start.

Look, if Crabtree is the best player, then he definitely should play. Get him in there as fast as possible. I have no problem with that whatsoever.

I am just making the observation, that if Crabtree can start and have a good game against the Texans, then it will blow the whole "must have a real tough training camp" thing out of the water.

You know the Rams also had a real tough training camp.

Tough training camps can wear thin, VERY fast, if the coaching staff is not careful.

Let's say Crabtree blows up the NFL like Moss did his rookie year.

Next seasons training camp will be very interesting, because it will be very tough for Singletary (or any team for that matter) to sell the idea that your seasons success depends upon how hard you work in training camp.

Crabtree and the Rams will have blown that out of the water by next season.

So I am arguing against hard training camps, not Crabtree starting.

I don't think so, because every position is different and every player is different. Just because Crabtree (a WR) could pull it off, doesn't mean the entire team should expect to miss camp (or have a light camp) and play well.

God wouldn't it be awesome if he just came out and dominated! hear deon talking about him on nfl network. you hear the league talking about how now our offense is picking up the slack. how shaun hills numbers have gotten better and how we are winning games!! ugh! I just want to hear them say "He is the real deal"
crabtree signed?

Originally posted by WestCoast:
crabtree signed?


Originally posted by WestCoast:
crabtree signed?


No M.C Hammer did
Originally posted by King49er:
Originally posted by WestCoast:
crabtree signed?


No M.C Hammer did

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Originally posted by King49er:
Originally posted by WestCoast:
crabtree signed?


No M.C Hammer did

No, but we signed the next best thing.

Originally posted by luis1985:
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Crabtree's stats vs the Texans: 6 catches 98 yards 1td

If that happens, then whenever Mike Singletary looks at his team, and tells them it is all about hard work and "paying the price," they will never be able to believe him.

Its obviously about talent, and not hard work if Crabtree can just waltz into the NFL and start playing.

All those tough days of training camp? For WHAT?

Well you did know M.C. trained hard when he was holding out right? I am sure his plan was always to sign that's why he had a trainer everywhere he went.

Why do you think he won the job so quickly? Because he trained hard, he probably studied his position and Jimmy Raye's type Offense, and he is extremely talented at WR.

The others probably have to train even harder to match the lever of talent Crabs has on the field. Thats WHY they needed the camp. It's great to see him take over the WR spot so quickly.

Ok, you make a good point. But still, if I had a choice to go through a Mike Singletary training camp vs. train hard on my own with a tough trainer I hired, I would choose the second option in a heartbeat.

It is much easier to train on your own. You don't have the pressure of getting challenged in front of your whole team. If you quit on a drill, no one but the trainer will ever know or care.

I mean think about it. Isn't it kind of demoralizing to go through a tough training camp only to lose your job to some hot-shot who comes in out of nowhere and only practiced with the team for a week?

I mean, a WEEK. A friggin WEEK.

This is almost surreal.

They said Crabtree learns fast, but my GOSH.

For those who have played football, I mean DAMN. That is AMAZING to simply walk onto the field and outplay starters right there on the spot!

I would even think it would be tough for a PRO to go into a COLLEGE program mid-season and try and start immediately!

I am stunned.

But I guess I should be really exited about it too.
Originally posted by B650:
Originally posted by King49er:
Originally posted by WestCoast:
crabtree signed?


No M.C Hammer did

No, but we signed the next best thing.


meh


I'd rather have Hammer
Originally posted by Dajanksta:
God wouldn't it be awesome if he just came out and dominated! hear deon talking about him on nfl network. you hear the league talking about how now our offense is picking up the slack. how shaun hills numbers have gotten better and how we are winning games!! ugh! I just want to hear them say "He is the real deal"

If he can walk onto a pro practice field and start within a weeks time, I think it is already decided that he is he real deal.

If he has a good game against the Texans, I will be the first one petitioning to give him Aron Curry's salary.

Has anything like this ever happened before?
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Originally posted by B650:
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Crabtree's stats vs the Texans: 6 catches 98 yards 1td

If that happens, then whenever Mike Singletary looks at his team, and tells them it is all about hard work and "paying the price," they will never be able to believe him.

Its obviously about talent, and not hard work if Crabtree can just waltz into the NFL and start playing.

All those tough days of training camp? For WHAT?

Or they'll think, "This guy will do whatever it takes to win," which I'm sure they'll respect. Don't you think the defense is a little tired of all those three-and-outs? It showed in Atlanta. If anything, the players probably LOVE the fact that Crabtree is going to start.

Look, if Crabtree is the best player, then he definitely should play. Get him in there as fast as possible. I have no problem with that whatsoever.

I am just making the observation, that if Crabtree can start and have a good game against the Texans, then it will blow the whole "must have a real tough training camp" thing out of the water.

You know the Rams also had a real tough training camp.

Tough training camps can wear thin, VERY fast, if the coaching staff is not careful.

Let's say Crabtree blows up the NFL like Moss did his rookie year.

Next seasons training camp will be very interesting, because it will be very tough for Singletary (or any team for that matter) to sell the idea that your seasons success depends upon how hard you work in training camp.

Crabtree and the Rams will have blown that out of the water by next season.

So I am arguing against hard training camps, not Crabtree starting.


The biggest beneficial factor of "hard training camps" is that the team will be in the best physical shape and condition going into the season, that's about it.

Try not to over-think it.

Success is based on way more things than just style of TC, individually and at a team level.
[ Edited by verb1der on Oct 19, 2009 at 5:06 PM ]
This is such good news. After a brutal game against ATL, this is just what the doctor ordered. Sucks for Morgan, though he'll get his shot in smaller doses this year and again, in a larger role next year.

We all know Sing wouldn't just throw him in there if he wasn't ready. Besides, he and Gore are respectively quoted as saying, "progress is excellent," and, "watching him over the bye week, he looked explosive off the line."

It's not really surprising to me. The guy was continuously conditioning and staying in top form while he was away. Perhaps he was even doing his Tampa two-a-days with routes that were similar to that of a Jimmy Raye offense just so that he'd be ready to go.

Crabtree's money and I'm sure he'll make an impact this year. Wooooo!!
Our WR's run the numbers system so it's not hard to learn at all. That doesn't worry me at all. What worries me is the timing between him and Hill. Hopefully they stay after practice this week and run alot of routes. Either way if we patch the holes on the O-line and this kid can make plays our offense will get a big much needed spark.
Originally posted by JDog:
So what about the $4 million we spent on Brandon Jones, will he now replace Bruce?
When do we get to see him? He was suppose to be good to go 2-3 weeks ago?
There sure is a lot of indecision going on around the team?

Yup, I think Scotty didn't plan for Crabtree to be there at the #10 pick, so he signed Brandon Jones during the off season. Looks like our highest paid WR (Brandon Jones) will be a bench warmer this season.

Next year it will be Jones, crabtree, Morgan, Jason Hill. (maybe Battle) I think we will keep Jason Hill. Remember Hill was Scotty's 3rd round pick so I don't think Scotty will give up on Jason Hill that easily...

We just need a franchise QB (maybe Nate Davis)
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