Crabtree Discussion Thread

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
We are closing in on 100 pages, and I'm not seeing the anger.

GET ANGRY PEOPLE!!!!!! RALLY!!!

I can't speak for other people, but I am rather frustrated with the situation. Crabtree has no leverage in this negotiation. None what-so-ever.

In a previous post, I laid out my thoughts on why Crabtree will not be drafted in the top 10 of next daft. He stands to lose millions of dollars if he carries through with his threat to sit out the season.

Let's say he is drafted with the #20 pick. The 20th pick received $9.4M guaranteed this past season. Assuming a generous increase of 15%, the 20th pick will be worth around $11M next season. If this scenario holds true, Crabtree will lose $5M in guaranteed money.

It's frustrating watching a young man hurt his career like Crabtree is doing now.

[ Edited by rum53 on Sep 8, 2009 at 16:33:01 ]

I agree with you. He is being counseled by an agent who is giving him a bad start with his organization. Don't think if he makes another mistake while with the team, they won't forget this one.

AHHH Who cares about crabtree,


I'm over it, i dno why you guys are all sweatin him.


He's unproven, he didn't even have a combine, it's his loss,


i say were better without, until this guy comes, or if he even does, let's stop the damn crabtree talk, and these damn threads need to stop.


WHO CARES ABOUT CRABTREE!!!!! MOVE ON.

Originally posted by RonMexico:

Originally posted by BigMar:

Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:

Originally posted by BigMar:
You know what, at this point, IF Craptree ever comes to his senses and signs... the 9ers should put him on the "practice squad".

Make him EARN his way up to our roster.

That will humble Mr. Craptree.

lol, no way man. Sure hell have to earn his spot but no way in hell he goes to the PS. IF he signs, it'll be after some negotiations. We need him as much as he needs us.

Hey... while he humbles himself on the practice squad, if another team makes a claim on him, the 9ers can simply move him up to their active roster and keep him.

Plus any team trying to make a claim on him has to digest his huge salary, so would they have the cap space?

Im just saying, why not turn the tables on Mr.Cashtree, make him EARN his spot since everyone else went thru training camp and pre-season games to do so.

Someone has to bring Mr. Cashtree back down to earth.

please stop

Would it not be something if the 9ers "really" could do that though? Just to humble Craptree, just a little bit.

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by PTulini:
I'm beginning to wonder if the removal of DT Khalif Mitchell from the practice squad might signal that something is in the works to get Michael Crabtree in before the start of the season? Yeah, this might be a reach, but I have a feeling something gets done within the next 48-72 hours!

i really hope youre right but i dont want to get my hopes up again and then get dissapointed.

i dont buy it
the reason they removed Mitchell was to make room for Briggs since he got cut
to make room from Pashos on the active squad..........

yea i wish when Zoners say they feel he's signing with 48-72 hr period it would happen but am prepared already to NEVER seeing Crabtree in a niner uniform.



[ Edited by Tru2RedNGold25 on Sep 8, 2009 at 16:43:44 ]

Originally posted by rum53:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
We are closing in on 100 pages, and I'm not seeing the anger.

GET ANGRY PEOPLE!!!!!! RALLY!!!

I can't speak for other people, but I am rather frustrated with the situation. Crabtree has no leverage in this negotiation. None what-so-ever.

In a previous post, I laid out my thoughts on why Crabtree will not be drafted in the top 10 of next daft. He stands to lose millions of dollars if he carries through with his threat to sit out the season.

Let's say he is drafted with the #20 pick. The 20th pick received $9.4M guaranteed this past season. Assuming a generous increase of 15%, the 20th pick will be worth around $11M next season. If this scenario holds true, Crabtree will lose $5M in guaranteed money.

It's frustrating watching a young man hurt his career like Crabtree is doing now.

it boggles the mind that he's actually considering sitting out and re-entering the draft next year. As someone said, it "defies ALL logic".

Didn't see this posted, if it was, OH WELL!

Quote:

Both sources believe that Crabtree has been told by other teams that they will take him in the first round of next year’s draft. However, because Crabtree would be delaying the chance to get to free agency by a year if he held out, he would have to go at least No. 7 overall in the draft in 2010 to make up for the lost ’09 salary. The 49ers could trade his rights prior to the draft in the offseason, but any money Crabtree would be paid would come out of the rookie salary cap for that year.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-crabtreeholdout090809&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Originally posted by derek_allen_02:
Didn't see this posted, if it was, OH WELL!

Quote:

Both sources believe that Crabtree has been told by other teams that they will take him in the first round of next year’s draft. However, because Crabtree would be delaying the chance to get to free agency by a year if he held out, he would have to go at least No. 7 overall in the draft in 2010 to make up for the lost ’09 salary. The 49ers could trade his rights prior to the draft in the offseason, but any money Crabtree would be paid would come out of the rookie salary cap for that year.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-crabtreeholdout090809&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Oh No.... he is catching passes from Trent Dilfer now!

Originally posted by rwise1:
I agree with you. He is being counseled by an agent who is giving him a bad start with his organization. Don't think if he makes another mistake while with the team, they won't forget this one.

Not only is he off to a bad start with this organization that didn't pass him up like 9 others did this year. The niners kept him in the top 10. I'm totally tired of this situation. A guy that has no ounce of pride, to say I'll take 17 mill guaranteed and play my butt off to prove that I am not only better then DHB but the best receiver that has come out in years. Instead he is worried about money and not being the first WR off the board. Way to go. Just read in article that teams told him (Cashtree) that they would pick him in first round next year. Really. You would play a wideout that hasn't played in over a year with questionable motives. Does the name Mike Williams come to mind. Where is the guy nowadays? Out of football. Sorry guys, I'm just fed up with not only the niners not meeting halfways, but mostly Mr. Cashtree for not having an ounce of common sense and realizing his is hurting himself more then anything.
OUT OF SIGHT = OUT OF MIND!!

Originally posted by derek_allen_02:
Didn't see this posted, if it was, OH WELL!

Quote:

Both sources believe that Crabtree has been told by other teams that they will take him in the first round of next year’s draft. However, because Crabtree would be delaying the chance to get to free agency by a year if he held out, he would have to go at least No. 7 overall in the draft in 2010 to make up for the lost ’09 salary. The 49ers could trade his rights prior to the draft in the offseason, but any money Crabtree would be paid would come out of the rookie salary cap for that year.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-crabtreeholdout090809&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Look at this part of the column............

In the meantime, Crabtree has been staying and working out in the Bay Area. His father, Michael Sr., said his son was “just working to get bigger, stronger and faster.” The elder Crabtree, who said his son recently spent a day catching passes from former NFL quarterback Trent Dilfer(notes), declined to talk about the contract.

Crabtree would be the first first-round pick to sit out the season since quarterback Kelly Stouffer in 1987.


kidnap Dilfer & make him spill his guts about Crabs!!!!!!!!

WHO THE HELL IS KELLY STOUFFER...............thats whats going to happen to you Crabs 20 years from now if u sit out lil b*tch!!!!!!!!

[ Edited by Tru2RedNGold25 on Sep 8, 2009 at 16:53:31 ]

Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:

Originally posted by rum53:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
We are closing in on 100 pages, and I'm not seeing the anger.

GET ANGRY PEOPLE!!!!!! RALLY!!!

I can't speak for other people, but I am rather frustrated with the situation. Crabtree has no leverage in this negotiation. None what-so-ever.

In a previous post, I laid out my thoughts on why Crabtree will not be drafted in the top 10 of next daft. He stands to lose millions of dollars if he carries through with his threat to sit out the season.

Let's say he is drafted with the #20 pick. The 20th pick received $9.4M guaranteed this past season. Assuming a generous increase of 15%, the 20th pick will be worth around $11M next season. If this scenario holds true, Crabtree will lose $5M in guaranteed money.

It's frustrating watching a young man hurt his career like Crabtree is doing now.

it boggles the mind that he's actually considering sitting out and re-entering the draft next year. As someone said, it "defies ALL logic".

He wont. What worries me more is there are so many people who are saying he is wierd/ stubborn/ crazy/ stupid enough to do it. These are the statements adjectives used to discribe him.

Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by PTulini:
I'm beginning to wonder if the removal of DT Khalif Mitchell from the practice squad might signal that something is in the works to get Michael Crabtree in before the start of the season? Yeah, this might be a reach, but I have a feeling something gets done within the next 48-72 hours!

i really hope youre right but i dont want to get my hopes up again and then get dissapointed.

i dont buy it
the reason they removed Mitchell was to make room for Briggs since he got cut
to make room from Pashos on the active squad..........

yea i wish when Zoners say they feel he's signing with 48-72 hr period it would happen but am prepared already to NEVER seeing Crabtree in a niner uniform.

Yes, but they didn't need to release ANYONE from the PS. They can have 8 and there is currently 7 on the squad.

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by PTulini:
I'm beginning to wonder if the removal of DT Khalif Mitchell from the practice squad might signal that something is in the works to get Michael Crabtree in before the start of the season? Yeah, this might be a reach, but I have a feeling something gets done within the next 48-72 hours!

i really hope youre right but i dont want to get my hopes up again and then get dissapointed.

i dont buy it
the reason they removed Mitchell was to make room for Briggs since he got cut
to make room from Pashos on the active squad..........

yea i wish when Zoners say they feel he's signing with 48-72 hr period it would happen but am prepared already to NEVER seeing Crabtree in a niner uniform.

Yes, but they didn't need to release ANYONE from the PS. They can have 8 and there is currently 7 on the squad.

True that...........u do have a point there buddy.........well u guys can hope for me cuz im already lost any kind of hope for the guy being a niner

Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:

Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:

Originally posted by rum53:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
We are closing in on 100 pages, and I'm not seeing the anger.

GET ANGRY PEOPLE!!!!!! RALLY!!!

I can't speak for other people, but I am rather frustrated with the situation. Crabtree has no leverage in this negotiation. None what-so-ever.

In a previous post, I laid out my thoughts on why Crabtree will not be drafted in the top 10 of next daft. He stands to lose millions of dollars if he carries through with his threat to sit out the season.

Let's say he is drafted with the #20 pick. The 20th pick received $9.4M guaranteed this past season. Assuming a generous increase of 15%, the 20th pick will be worth around $11M next season. If this scenario holds true, Crabtree will lose $5M in guaranteed money.

It's frustrating watching a young man hurt his career like Crabtree is doing now.

it boggles the mind that he's actually considering sitting out and re-entering the draft next year. As someone said, it "defies ALL logic".

He wont. What worries me more is there are so many people who are saying he is wierd/ stubborn/ crazy/ stupid enough to do it. These are the statements adjectives used to discribe him.

Oh Oh, now weez got to worry as Craptree is being characterized as >>>

Did the 9ers REALLY do their homework on Craptree personality?

Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by PTulini:
I'm beginning to wonder if the removal of DT Khalif Mitchell from the practice squad might signal that something is in the works to get Michael Crabtree in before the start of the season? Yeah, this might be a reach, but I have a feeling something gets done within the next 48-72 hours!

i really hope youre right but i dont want to get my hopes up again and then get dissapointed.

i dont buy it
the reason they removed Mitchell was to make room for Briggs since he got cut
to make room from Pashos on the active squad..........

yea i wish when Zoners say they feel he's signing with 48-72 hr period it would happen but am prepared already to NEVER seeing Crabtree in a niner uniform.

Yes, but they didn't need to release ANYONE from the PS. They can have 8 and there is currently 7 on the squad.

True that...........u do have a point there buddy.........well u guys can hope for me cuz im already lost any kind of hope for the guy being a niner

After the season starts he will be in the back of our minds but completely out of everyone elses. It is then he will sign.