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Crabtree Discussion Thread
Sep 8, 2009 at 1:42 PM
- backontop
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The more this BS carries on the more I feel that there is some tampering here with other teams. And I am sure that if fans are thinking this might be the case based on interviews and other facts, I would hope that Goodell is thinking the same thing.
Sep 8, 2009 at 1:43 PM
- olapac
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Originally posted by Esco:
Sources: Crabtree no closer to ending holdout
A source close to San Francisco 49ers holdout wide receiver Michael Crabtree(notes) said Tuesday that while he disagrees with the idea of Crabtree missing an entire season, “the kid is weird enough that he just might do it.”
The comment comes after NFL Network analyst and former player Deion Sanders said Crabtree, taken 10th in this year’s NFL draft, is willing to remain unsigned because of his desire to paid as much as No. 7 overall pick and fellow wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey(notes). Crabtree believes he would have been a top-five pick if not for a stress fracture in his foot that was discovered at the NFL scouting combine.
Meanwhile, a 49ers source remained upbeat about the chances of Crabtree signing, saying he believed a holdout “defies all logic.”
The team source said the 49ers have offered Crabtree a contract commensurate with the No. 10 overall pick. Crabtree wants a deal equal to the reported five-year, $38.25 million contract Heyward-Bey received. That deal includes $23.5 million guaranteed and also was the cause of conflict in the Cincinnati Bengals’ negotiations with No. 6 overall pick Andre Smith(notes), who joined the team a month after he reported to training camp.
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I just read the article. And although I try not to get too worked up about what "sources" say, this is just so frustrating. If people close to him are saying the "holdout defies logic", it's very difficult to see this ending with a signing anytime soon.
Sep 8, 2009 at 1:44 PM
- Mookster
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Originally posted by backontop:
The more this BS carries on the more I feel that there is some tampering here with other teams. And I am sure that if fans are thinking this might be the case based on interviews and other facts, I would hope that Goodell is thinking the same thing.
Based on the NFL.com chat this afternoon I don't think Goodell is thinking about anything other than selling subscriptions to the new RedZone channel.
Sep 8, 2009 at 1:46 PM
- merm49
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Further on in the article is says two teams told Crabtree they would take him next year in round 1. Now, I know he's not under contract but I'm 99.9% sure that since we have his rights we therefore have exclusivity in negotiating with the player; thus, we were tampered with and its f'n BS if we don't go after the teams especially after what happened to us with Briggs.
I, however, did draw some positives from the article. Next year's WR class will be better this year's and, moreover, it states that Crabtree is living and working out in the South Bay, leading me to believe that he ultimately will play for the 49ers. I'm guessing we will see no movement until this weekend as he'll holdout as long as possible in a (probably) futile attempt to squeeze more $$$$$ from the FO, before caving in and taking the 16-20$ mil guaranteed.
Besides, if his true desire is cash, then its in his best interests to sign this deal now and have FA come one year quicker. Moreover, there is a precedent to sign our strong-performing young players to long-term and lucrative extensions before their first deals expire--see Gore and Staley. If Crabs is truly as great as he believes/says he is, then he should have no trouble securing a massive extension in few years.
I, however, did draw some positives from the article. Next year's WR class will be better this year's and, moreover, it states that Crabtree is living and working out in the South Bay, leading me to believe that he ultimately will play for the 49ers. I'm guessing we will see no movement until this weekend as he'll holdout as long as possible in a (probably) futile attempt to squeeze more $$$$$ from the FO, before caving in and taking the 16-20$ mil guaranteed.
Besides, if his true desire is cash, then its in his best interests to sign this deal now and have FA come one year quicker. Moreover, there is a precedent to sign our strong-performing young players to long-term and lucrative extensions before their first deals expire--see Gore and Staley. If Crabs is truly as great as he believes/says he is, then he should have no trouble securing a massive extension in few years.
Sep 8, 2009 at 1:47 PM
- tohara3
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Originally posted by jwildz999:
Still can't wear my jersey!
Think I'm gonna have to wear my Willis or Davis jersey on Sunday now. I was so happy to get my Crabtree jersey too!
Sep 8, 2009 at 1:47 PM
- susweel
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Originally posted by tohara3:Originally posted by jwildz999:
Still can't wear my jersey!
Think I'm gonna have to wear my Willis or Davis jersey on Sunday now. I was so happy to get my Crabtree jersey too!
You should burn it.
Sep 8, 2009 at 1:48 PM
- PTulini
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Quote:
In the meantime, Crabtree has been staying and working out in the Bay Area. His father, Michael Sr., said his son was “just working to get bigger, stronger and faster.” The elder Crabtree, who said his son recently spent a day catching passes from former NFL quarterback Trent Dilfer, declined to talk about the contract.
Sep 8, 2009 at 1:49 PM
- Esco
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Originally posted by PTulini:Quote:
In the meantime, Crabtree has been staying and working out in the Bay Area. His father, Michael Sr., said his son was “just working to get bigger, stronger and faster.” The elder Crabtree, who said his son recently spent a day catching passes from former NFL quarterback Trent Dilfer, declined to talk about the contract.
Now that's tampering
Sep 8, 2009 at 1:50 PM
- HessianDud
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AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
okay, go about your business folks. Nothing more to see here.
okay, go about your business folks. Nothing more to see here.
Sep 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM
- SybErkRimInAL
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Originally posted by tohara3:Originally posted by jwildz999:
Still can't wear my jersey!
Think I'm gonna have to wear my Willis or Davis jersey on Sunday now. I was so happy to get my Crabtree jersey too!
Sep 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM
- kenger04
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Ask the Commissioner
http://chat.nfl.com/front/archived_chat/416
Regarding the whole Deion Sanders/Michael Crabtree fiasco - The 49ers say they haven't been contacted by any teams regarding Crabtree, but Deion says he knows of two teams who would for sure give Crabtree $40 million. Who are these two teams and why are they making offers to a player, his agent or representatives directly when the 49ers are the only ones who can negotiate with him?
Commissioner Roger Goodell, NFL.com
This is not tampering, but it may be a conflict of interest. It is not permissible for other teams to get involved or express an interest in signing Michael Crabtree. This negotiation should be between the player and the 49ers and hopefully they will find a resolution so Michael can begin his NFL career as soon as possible.
http://chat.nfl.com/front/archived_chat/416
Regarding the whole Deion Sanders/Michael Crabtree fiasco - The 49ers say they haven't been contacted by any teams regarding Crabtree, but Deion says he knows of two teams who would for sure give Crabtree $40 million. Who are these two teams and why are they making offers to a player, his agent or representatives directly when the 49ers are the only ones who can negotiate with him?
Commissioner Roger Goodell, NFL.com
This is not tampering, but it may be a conflict of interest. It is not permissible for other teams to get involved or express an interest in signing Michael Crabtree. This negotiation should be between the player and the 49ers and hopefully they will find a resolution so Michael can begin his NFL career as soon as possible.
Sep 8, 2009 at 1:54 PM
- dirtysouthniner
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Originally posted by merm49:
Further on in the article is says two teams told Crabtree they would take him next year in round 1. Now, I know he's not under contract but I'm 99.9% sure that since we have his rights we therefore have exclusivity in negotiating with the player; thus, we were tampered with and its f'n BS if we don't go after the teams especially after what happened to us with Briggs.
I, however, did draw some positives from the article. Next year's WR class will be better this year's and, moreover, it states that Crabtree is living and working out in the South Bay, leading me to believe that he ultimately will play for the 49ers. I'm guessing we will see no movement until this weekend as he'll holdout as long as possible in a (probably) futile attempt to squeeze more $$$$$ from the FO, before caving in and taking the 16-20$ mil guaranteed.
Besides, if his true desire is cash, then its in his best interests to sign this deal now and have FA come one year quicker. Moreover, there is a precedent to sign our strong-performing young players to long-term and lucrative extensions before their first deals expire--see Gore and Staley. If Crabs is truly as great as he believes/says he is, then he should have no trouble securing a massive extension in few years.
It would be the same situation if the raiders contacted Sanchez and told him, "Its too bad you were picked by the jets. We would have paid you more than Matt got from the lions. Maybe if you tell them you want that much they would have to trade you. Or even if you hold out the whole season, we will give you that next year." This is tampering.
Sep 8, 2009 at 1:56 PM
- pdxredandgold
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It could be that these mystery teams are just straight up lies produced by the Crabtree camp as a last ditch effort to have the Niners up their offer.
Maybe that's why the league isn't doing anything or planning on doing anything. It could be because the real people in the know, know that it's all BS.
Maybe that's why the league isn't doing anything or planning on doing anything. It could be because the real people in the know, know that it's all BS.
Sep 8, 2009 at 1:56 PM
- susweel
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The care level on this douche bag is way down.
Sep 8, 2009 at 1:57 PM
- 415fan
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Originally posted by susweel:
The care level on this douche bag is way down.
I love it