Originally posted by JDeezy:
Originally posted by Giants9ersfan:
Originally posted by JDeezy:
Originally posted by Giants9ersfan:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by BigMar:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by BigMar:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by ptw1:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
In Schefter's report, he states that the Niners are not budging from the 10th slot. So, we know their contract offer. We don't know what Crabtree is asking (cheers to Parker for keeping this confidential...unlike our organization that leaks information to every newspaper reporter through league sources).
Say what you want about Parker, but he's kept the contract negotiation silent, which allowed for some form of compromise in the end. He could be asking for top 5, top 7 money, or simply something out of the tenth slot. We simply don't know. And, that is the key to a good contract negotiation.
But since the Niners have made it clear to the world that they aren't budging, this contract is not going to be signed. Just a stupid, stupid manuever. It puts them, and Crabtree into a box that has no solution, other than one side having to cave in and lose face. This has become a "saving face" situation for both sides, and the Niners have created this situation by going public through secondary and third parties.
Crabtree is an easy target for scorn, but this also shows the organization to have severe problems. They are just as culpable, or more, for this disaster.
There are some many things that can be put on the organization over these past several years but this isn't one of them. Even though WR wasn't their biggest need, he clearly was the highest rated player on their board. Even if he is, and they knew, a "diva", no one could expect a draft pick to sit out the entire season. No matter how great he was in college, still there is greater likelyhood of him being a bust then a pro-bowl caliber player. The 9ers aren't being cheap. And for those who swear he will be great and want the 9ers to cave. The fact is, even if he becomes a great WR, caving in to the 10th pick would have far greater consequences on the team in future drafts.
My argument is that if they were not willing to think outside the box on his contract, they should have never drafted him in the first place.
I had a very strong hint that Crabtree would never accept 10th slot money, and this looks to be true. The Niners did not understand the perspective Crabtree (whether right or wrong) would carry into contract negotiations, and for them to simply claim ignorance is not good enough.
And if it is proven that 2 other NFL teams have indeed tampered with Craptree, therefore throwing a monkeywrench into the contract talks....what say you then?
Do you honestly believe that Crabtree was ready to cave, and then....two teams emerge to change his mind?
This was never going to happen if the Niners never were going to leave the 10th slot.
If another NFL team had actully drafted Craptree in the 10th spot, by honest, do you think they would have accepted Craptree's money demand?
If you think the 49ers are the ONLY NFL team who would have had this problem with Craptree.... you are smoking some heavy stuff.
Nobody knows what Crabtree is offering, so nobody can answer this questions. The only ones babbling are the Niners and that is not helping.
NO! Crabtree's camp has been the only ones mouthing off over these months...Not the Niners. The only thing the Niners have said up till this point is "We are looking forward to Michael being here and he is going to do great with this team!"
You guys are insane if you "think" the Niners have said anything else. I'm glad that the Niners organization is standing up and say this outloud. This organization WILL not be pushed around by some Diva WR who THINKS he should be paid top 5 money. I'm sorry...NO!
Right except this organization needs him, so it can try to be more creative in its attempts to sign him......not just let him waste a season, which has now been wasted. I just think that the problem is the lack of communication.....we can just as easily call him as he can reach out to us.
No, I don't agree that this organization NEEDS him. He could become a BUST for all we know. There is not ONE player this team needs. For a rookie to DEMAND top 5 money because "he should have been picked there" is asinine. We have no idea what communication has taken place (much more than what we know). Crabtree's greed and immaturity is why this situation is where it is. Also, we don't know what the incentives are other than what dumbass Deion has told everyone. That could be absolute bull for all we know.
I argue that we absolutely do need him. What other playmakers do we have??? Sure he could be a bust, but he's not more apt to be a bust than those taken before/after him. The fact that he has yet to sign does not make him anymore "bust" material. We have struggled to find playmakers and we can't afford to just discard first round picks. IMO we're doing the rest of the league a favor and for what? We might find it hard for a year to do business, but the rookie pool will be in place in 2. It's not like the league has actually done us any favors, for example the tampering charges and help with the stadium.
If you really believe that Crabtree is a player we HAVE to have...then I guess this discussion is over.
Look, I want Crabtree the player, I think every fan and everyone with the Niners organization wants him as well. But they CANNOT give in to what he wants. Incentive deals are not supposed to be easily reached...some people, I think, are arguing that they should be. Who knows what kind of incentives are in his contract. But, the Niners cannot just fork over money to him, just because he wants it.
It isn't that the Niners stance on this is helping the league...it is helping this team in the future. So, Joe Staley who signed his contract isn't upset, Patrick Willis needs to be signed, next years first round picks will need to be signed. So what...we cave in to Crabtree and what do you think those players are going to do?
