Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by jame-gumb:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
That is another poor argument. Crabtree does have leverage, as the Niners cannot force him to put on a uniform. The time I see Shaun Hill walking behind Crabtree with a gun pointed to his head is the time when the statement you made is accurate.
The lesson learned will not be the Niners are tough guys, and won't crack. It is that they lost their first rounder in a contract dispute.
You are choosing to only see things through one side of the lens. Try looking from another angle.
What leverage does he have? He loses a year of football and will likely get less money next year. SF loses a first round pick, or it could be downgraded to a second or third round pick. Big f**kin' deal.
Give me another angle from which to look at this situation. I've looked at this from Crabtree's angle. Not to get all biblical, but all I see is greed and pride.
edit: And so far, all you've done is tell me I'm making poor arguments without backing it up. You haven't made a decent argument yet (that I've seen).
Also, I really do want to know your opinion on what Crabtree could be traded for in March.
As for my arguments, I have written extensively in this thread and in another thread. In some posts, they were as long as a typical newspaper article. It would take another hour or so to retype the enter argument, but please feel free to dig back a couple hundred pages if you wish.
As for the value that Crabtree could be traded for, nobody knows at this point. It may be that a team is willing to offer a mid-late first rounder, or something outside the first round. Each team will need to assess their needs after the season.
Regarding his special situation that you have referred to multiple times, do you agree with Deion that Crab's should be paid in the $30mil range...or do you agree that, that is crazy?
I think if the Niners offered something very close to DHB money, that Crabtree would sign. However, since I am not there at the table, there is no way for me to know.
Is he worth $30 million? In total money, yes. That would come out to $6 million/season. That is not much more than Raji, who picked up $28. 5 million. To me, I think the solution is to offer a six year deal, worth $42 million, and $18 million in guaranteed money. The guaranteed money would match Raji's, and his overall contract would surpass DHB's in total money (although the per-year average would be less).
[ Edited by MadDog49er on Sep 10, 2009 at 14:51:25 ]