Crabtree Discussion Thread

Originally posted by TonyStarks:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Anyone have Craptrees' twitter/faceyspace mybook info?

or home address

Originally posted by backontop:

Originally posted by SolRebe1:
Perhaps trading him after March 1st wouldn't be a bad idea...

yup. Let another team deal with his high demands and get something in return. I bet Detroit or Denver would love to trade for this guy. Hell the team that needs one the most is Chicago.

We're one of the teams that need him the most.

hmmm I wonder if the story about Crabtree thinking about a new agent is true. If it is it might be to save face so he can blame the hold out on Parker and take the deal that the 49ers are offering and have been offering him the entire time.

Originally posted by 49erFan:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Finally, can someone tell me if Crabtree is the bad guy, or Parker?

I tend to agree with you about the process, and there being no real need to get worked up. However, I'd be interested to hear your opinion on what Deion Sanders had to say, and if that gives people a reason to get worked up.

You are way too mellow, and for that I am vastly disappointed.

I broke down Sanders' comments earlier in this thread, but I think it comes down to a couple of different things:

1) He is not telling the truth, or is exaggerating certain aspects of the story. The status of the story remains the same, an ugly contract impasse.

2) If he is telling the truth, it is a damaging blow to the Niners' position. If teams are willing to throw down big money for Crabtree, then it supports, to some degree, the position that Crabtree has an argument for a contract outside the 10th slot. It also allows Crabtree the leverage to simply walk away from the Niners, and head to the draft next year (or to a trade partner who is willing to throw down this money in March/April).

Of course, I have always stated that I do not know the truth in this matter, as I don't the truth on anything in regards to his contract. That is why I have appealed to the board (and then turned to sarcasm) to avoid getting worked up. Nobody knows what has been offered (the "sources" have been all over the place), and what has been asked for.

09/09/09....today could be the day.

Originally posted by 9inermaniac:
According to ProFootballCentral Crabtree may be looking for a new agent. Its this is true, was his punk @$$ cousin holding up the deal to make more money or was Crabtree still the one holding out? My guess if he gets new agent the deal should be made soon.

According the ProFootballCentral, these....wait for the magic word....."sources" made this statement.

"Sources" raining down from heaven.

Originally posted by GodismyLight:

Originally posted by GodismyLight:

Originally posted by GodismyLight:
What I am starting to get angry about is that; ESPN has not touched the Crabtree Story since early August. I wish all those ESPN commentators would just rip Crabtree a new one to really turn the Country against him and Parker. If this was a Cowboy or Patriot Holdout they would have daily updates "Crabtree Watch"and Daily competitive banter on PTI.

Oh yeah and this.

All of these nonsense and still nothing from any major sports shows.

ESPN is a joke and has been for the past 10 years. They are so concerned with Dallas, New England, Brett Favre and the Giants in football and its Red Sox and Yankees and Lakers and Lebron too. I understand that the stories are sometimes with the big names but that is only SOMETIMES. If i gave 2 shiznits about what ARod and Kate Hudson had for brunch or what Brett Favre did at practice (which we know was nothing because he doesnt practice hard anymore) I could just go to ESPNews, ESPN, ESPN 2 or ESPN Classic for a complete breakdown.

For a 24 hour sports network, them cats are so tardy on so many more interesting stories. And they got an agenda anyways. They wont bash no one or else they may not get that much needed "Sunday Conversation" interview. Let the Niners go 4-0 and we'll see Sal Palantonio trolling 4949 Centennial Drive looking to get some..."news".

Originally posted by Blitz:

Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:

Originally posted by ninertico:
Could this have any bearing on to what has happened over the weekend into this week?

"The source explains that there's a chance that agent Eugene Parker led Seymour to believe that the talks toward a new deal had progressed farther than they actually had. Either way, the fact that Seymour went from thinking he was going to sign a retirement deal with the Patriots to learning that he'd been sent to the Raiders has contributed in large part to the confusion and frustration that has kept him from reporting to work at his new place of employment."--Profootballtalk.com

I know it is a Raider issue, but Parker is at the root of this question. Did Parker frick up Seymour's ability to get a new contract? As a result, did this shed light to the rumor that Crabtree is lookin' for a new agent?

Could have a domino effect

I think Seymour f**ked this one up. Reading the Patsy boards, it sounds like he was saying some s**t that wasn't received well by the team. They (the team) wanted him to play for them but wanted him to recognize that he was playing in a top notch organization that most of the best player's in the league would jump to play for....so no need for a monster Haynesworth type contract, which is what Seymour was after.

I other words. Act like a Raider, then be a Raider.

Next year could be huge for us. We trade Cashgreeds punk ass for another 1st plus the two we already have, we fire McSing and hire Holmgren and Haskell and give them three 1st to start off with.

Originally posted by MadDog49er:

Originally posted by 49erFan:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Finally, can someone tell me if Crabtree is the bad guy, or Parker?

I tend to agree with you about the process, and there being no real need to get worked up. However, I'd be interested to hear your opinion on what Deion Sanders had to say, and if that gives people a reason to get worked up.

You are way too mellow, and for that I am vastly disappointed.

I broke down Sanders' comments earlier in this thread, but I think it comes down to a couple of different things:

1) He is not telling the truth, or is exaggerating certain aspects of the story. The status of the story remains the same, an ugly contract impasse.

2) If he is telling the truth, it is a damaging blow to the Niners' position. If teams are willing to throw down big money for Crabtree, then it supports, to some degree, the position that Crabtree has an argument for a contract outside the 10th slot. It also allows Crabtree the leverage to simply walk away from the Niners, and head to the draft next year (or to a trade partner who is willing to throw down this money in March/April).

Of course, I have always stated that I do not know the truth in this matter, as I don't the truth on anything in regards to his contract. That is why I have appealed to the board (and then turned to sarcasm) to avoid getting worked up. Nobody knows what has been offered (the "sources" have been all over the place), and what has been asked for.

Exactly a point I was trying to make earlier in this thread today.

Quote:
All we have learned is he was offered 16 mill guaranteed and the there have not been many talks between the 2 sides since then. Maybe the 49ers should up the offer, maybe they should be pushing a little harder to show him how much they want him to be a player on this team. Maybe Crabtree & co. should submit a counter offer (if they already haven't) and maybe Crabtree needs to make a statement to the media.

However one thing is clear, 49er fans are clearly overreacting to all of this. At the end of the day this sport has become a business and right now it's about money. We have very few details to actually go on yet everyone wants to blame Crabtree for the holdout. How many times have fans claimed the York's are cheap over the last few years....maybe it's time for the FO to put more money on the table or release more details to show us that they are doing all they can to get MC signed which would put more pressure on the Crabtree camp to get something done.

It's really unfair to blame one side or the other because we really know nothing except what these "sources" keep telling us. The only thing we know about these "sources" is that sometimes they prove to be right and sometimes they prove to be wrong so fans need to stop putting so much thought and belief into what they are hearing and reading.

Originally posted by Mex49:
Next year could be huge for us. We trade Cashgreeds punk ass for another 1st plus the two we already have, we fire McSing and hire Holmgren and Haskell and give them three 1st to start off with.

yeah, all of those things are likely.

Originally posted by Mex49:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Anyone have Craptrees' twitter/faceyspace mybook info?

or home address

I think it's 1500 poon rat way

Originally posted by MadDog49er:

Originally posted by 49erFan:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Finally, can someone tell me if Crabtree is the bad guy, or Parker?

I tend to agree with you about the process, and there being no real need to get worked up. However, I'd be interested to hear your opinion on what Deion Sanders had to say, and if that gives people a reason to get worked up.

You are way too mellow, and for that I am vastly disappointed.

I broke down Sanders' comments earlier in this thread, but I think it comes down to a couple of different things:

1) He is not telling the truth, or is exaggerating certain aspects of the story. The status of the story remains the same, an ugly contract impasse.

2) If he is telling the truth, it is a damaging blow to the Niners' position. If teams are willing to throw down big money for Crabtree, then it supports, to some degree, the position that Crabtree has an argument for a contract outside the 10th slot. It also allows Crabtree the leverage to simply walk away from the Niners, and head to the draft next year (or to a trade partner who is willing to throw down this money in March/April).

Of course, I have always stated that I do not know the truth in this matter, as I don't the truth on anything in regards to his contract. That is why I have appealed to the board (and then turned to sarcasm) to avoid getting worked up. Nobody knows what has been offered (the "sources" have been all over the place), and what has been asked for.

My take on Deion is that he is a f**king liar and should have kept his nose out of this situation

Originally posted by KNRO1670:

Originally posted by Mex49:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Anyone have Craptrees' twitter/faceyspace mybook info?

or home address

I think it's 1500 poon rat way

what the f**k is a poon rat

Originally posted by Mex49:
Next year could be huge for us. We trade Cashgreeds punk ass for another 1st plus the two we already have, we fire McSing and hire Holmgren and Haskell and give them three 1st to start off with.