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Aug 25, 2009 at 10:47 AM
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Vernon is a better blocker and has looked better in preseason this year. Here's an idea, why not put Robinson in at HB and Delanie in a WR and run a HB option? Robinson could either run with Delanie blocking or he could use his QB skills and throw to Delanie as a WR.
Aug 25, 2009 at 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by Joecool:Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
Let's face it...Walker's the better receiver, Vernon the better blocker. We need Vernon in the run game...and both in the passing game. Given Raye likes to run and it sure looks like between Gore & Coffee he'll have a stout run offense, it really wouldn't make sense to start Walker. Delanie will get the ball...as will Vernon, but Davis is too valuable a blocker to sit on the bench.
Which is why the double tight seems to fit us perfectly but the only thing is that our RBs like having that lead blocker to read off of.
yeah I'd like to see more TE screens to Delanie out of these formations.
or have Delanie line up at FB just to receive a screen or a quick pass..... I love Vernon as our starter....but I also wish we would/have use Delanie more in the past....and hopefully this year.
Aug 25, 2009 at 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by NJNinerFan:
Vernon is a better blocker and has looked better in preseason this year. Here's an idea, why not put Robinson in at HB and Delanie in a WR and run a HB option? Robinson could either run with Delanie blocking or he could use his QB skills and throw to Delanie as a WR.
or we can also just use Delanie as a slot WR in a normal set......I mean he came out of college as a WR.
Aug 25, 2009 at 10:50 AM
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I'm sure he'd be a better downfield blocker than Zeigler
[ Edited by NJNinerFan on Aug 25, 2009 at 10:51 AM ]
Aug 25, 2009 at 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by jerryricefan80:
No way. I drafted Vernon in my fantasy league. Expecting big things from him this season. It's the first time I have ever really believed in him.
you're quote is bitter sweet! "it's the first time i have ever really believed in him". 4th year guys. 6th overall... he needs to start playing his worth!
Aug 25, 2009 at 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by alanbeez22:Originally posted by NineFourNiner:Originally posted by alanbeez22:Originally posted by NineFourNiner:Originally posted by Joecool:Originally posted by valrod33:
Objection
Davis is one of the best blocking tight ends in the game with our emphasis this year on the running game this would be a dumb idea, and plus Davis to me anyway has looked pretty good in the preseason catching the ball
If Davis is one of the best blocking TE in the game, then he is just a better Billy Bajema. Delanie Walker is a better playmaker until Vernon proves otherwise.
Based on . . . .???
catching the ball and moving the chains! vernon was never suppose to be a blocker! his intent in the league was suppose to be a catch balls! vernon looked good in the preseason so far. but overall. delanie walker has shown more in the regular season when he isn't injured. td's matter buddy!
They sure DO, buddy!!!
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Just for esses and gees -
DW = 38 games played (13 started), 33 receptions, 359 yards and 2 TDs.
VD = 40 games played (38 started), 103 receptions, 1,132 yards and 9 TDs.
VD, now with 350% more touchdowns than DW.
both have played... but honestly who gets more playing time??? he prolly gets 350% more playing time as well. i'm not saying delanie walker should start. but vernon needs to get his ass in gear and start looking like tony gonzalez, and antonio gates real soon. he's had way too much time and years to not be called a probowl STARTER!
Dude you got owned and now you are backtracking
Aug 25, 2009 at 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by valrod33:
Objection
Davis is one of the best blocking tight ends in the game with our emphasis this year on the running game this would be a dumb idea, and plus Davis to me anyway has looked pretty good in the preseason catching the ball
Exactly. Walker is good receiving TE but you need to block well too.
Aug 25, 2009 at 10:54 AM
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Delanie Walker is a converted juco receiver. He isn't good enough to start at tight end in the NFL.
Aug 25, 2009 at 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by valrod33:Originally posted by alanbeez22:Originally posted by NineFourNiner:Originally posted by alanbeez22:Originally posted by NineFourNiner:Originally posted by Joecool:Originally posted by valrod33:
Objection
Davis is one of the best blocking tight ends in the game with our emphasis this year on the running game this would be a dumb idea, and plus Davis to me anyway has looked pretty good in the preseason catching the ball
If Davis is one of the best blocking TE in the game, then he is just a better Billy Bajema. Delanie Walker is a better playmaker until Vernon proves otherwise.
Based on . . . .???
catching the ball and moving the chains! vernon was never suppose to be a blocker! his intent in the league was suppose to be a catch balls! vernon looked good in the preseason so far. but overall. delanie walker has shown more in the regular season when he isn't injured. td's matter buddy!
They sure DO, buddy!!!
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Just for esses and gees -
DW = 38 games played (13 started), 33 receptions, 359 yards and 2 TDs.
VD = 40 games played (38 started), 103 receptions, 1,132 yards and 9 TDs.
VD, now with 350% more touchdowns than DW.
both have played... but honestly who gets more playing time??? he prolly gets 350% more playing time as well. i'm not saying delanie walker should start. but vernon needs to get his ass in gear and start looking like tony gonzalez, and antonio gates real soon. he's had way too much time and years to not be called a probowl STARTER!
Dude you got owned and now you are backtracking
how did i get owned?
vernon makes how much? delanie makes how much? delanies playing his production to his price ratio... can you say the same for vernons 4 years? cmon man.
you said delanie started 13 and vernon started 38 and delanie gots 359 yards and vernon gots 1,132... don't you see something wrong with the numbers? vernons not as productive buddy!
Aug 25, 2009 at 11:06 AM
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Originally posted by alanbeez22:Originally posted by valrod33:Originally posted by alanbeez22:Originally posted by NineFourNiner:Originally posted by alanbeez22:Originally posted by NineFourNiner:Originally posted by Joecool:Originally posted by valrod33:
Objection
Davis is one of the best blocking tight ends in the game with our emphasis this year on the running game this would be a dumb idea, and plus Davis to me anyway has looked pretty good in the preseason catching the ball
If Davis is one of the best blocking TE in the game, then he is just a better Billy Bajema. Delanie Walker is a better playmaker until Vernon proves otherwise.
Based on . . . .???
catching the ball and moving the chains! vernon was never suppose to be a blocker! his intent in the league was suppose to be a catch balls! vernon looked good in the preseason so far. but overall. delanie walker has shown more in the regular season when he isn't injured. td's matter buddy!
They sure DO, buddy!!!
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Just for esses and gees -
DW = 38 games played (13 started), 33 receptions, 359 yards and 2 TDs.
VD = 40 games played (38 started), 103 receptions, 1,132 yards and 9 TDs.
VD, now with 350% more touchdowns than DW.
both have played... but honestly who gets more playing time??? he prolly gets 350% more playing time as well. i'm not saying delanie walker should start. but vernon needs to get his ass in gear and start looking like tony gonzalez, and antonio gates real soon. he's had way too much time and years to not be called a probowl STARTER!
Dude you got owned and now you are backtracking
how did i get owned?
vernon makes how much? delanie makes how much? delanies playing his production to his price ratio... can you say the same for vernons 4 years? cmon man.
you said delanie started 13 and vernon started 38 and delanie gots 359 yards and vernon gots 1,132... don't you see something wrong with the numbers? vernons not as productive buddy!
Look at the numbers Vernon is more productive than Walker.
Im not saying Vernon has been a Tony Gonzales or an Antonio Gates, but he has been better the Walker, and thats what this is about Walker vs Davis.
Davis is the better overall TE compared to Walker.
Does Davis need to pick up his production? No Doubt
Davis gives us the better chance to win because of his Overall skill set
I like Walker and he is doing exactly what he should do as a backup TE
Walker will get his chances, cuz like a previous poster said i think we will be using a lot of 2 TE sets, but he is nothing more than a sold backup pass catching TE
Aug 25, 2009 at 11:07 AM
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Haha
Walker starts TE for me in Madden.....But only cuz i have Vernon at Fullback.
Walker is good but Vernon is a beast at blocking and once he masters catching the f**king ball he will be unstoppable especially with Hill at Qb. Alex will also feed him nicely if he ever has to step in becasue that's whose Raye's offense is going to utilize besides Frankie G.
Walker starts TE for me in Madden.....But only cuz i have Vernon at Fullback.
Walker is good but Vernon is a beast at blocking and once he masters catching the f**king ball he will be unstoppable especially with Hill at Qb. Alex will also feed him nicely if he ever has to step in becasue that's whose Raye's offense is going to utilize besides Frankie G.
Aug 25, 2009 at 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by adrenaline:Originally posted by OO9ers:
With all the change going on it might me time to shake up the Tight End possition by benching Vernon Davis in favor of Delanie Walker.
Any Objection?
You can utilize both. There are such things as two TE sets.
yes there is but why not walker and pascoe. they can catch better than VD which is proven and as for blocking well lets say thats the only thing VD can do right....
Which just about every TE in the NFL has to be good at.
Aug 25, 2009 at 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by aacadena:
Haha
Walker starts TE for me in Madden.....But only cuz i have Vernon at Fullback.
Walker is good but Vernon is a beast at blocking and once he masters catching the f**king ball he will be unstoppable especially with Hill at Qb. Alex will also feed him nicely if he ever has to step in becasue that's whose Raye's offense is going to utilize besides Frankie G.
who is your starting QB in madden aacedena?....my fellow 49er fan
Aug 25, 2009 at 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by aacadena:
Haha
Walker starts TE for me in Madden.....But only cuz i have Vernon at Fullback.
Walker is good but Vernon is a beast at blocking and once he masters catching the f**king ball he will be unstoppable especially with Hill at Qb. Alex will also feed him nicely if he ever has to step in becasue that's whose Raye's offense is going to utilize besides Frankie G.
you cant master catching the ball. either you can or cant! VD CANT.
Aug 25, 2009 at 11:14 AM
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Originally posted by Afrikan:Originally posted by aacadena:
Haha
Walker starts TE for me in Madden.....But only cuz i have Vernon at Fullback.
Walker is good but Vernon is a beast at blocking and once he masters catching the f**king ball he will be unstoppable especially with Hill at Qb. Alex will also feed him nicely if he ever has to step in becasue that's whose Raye's offense is going to utilize besides Frankie G.
who is your starting QB in madden aacedena?....my fellow 49er fan
Nate Davis, cuz he's stronger than Both and rated only 2 points under so i said why not. lol