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BigMar
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Valrod33 and backontop = nice tag team.
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NCommand
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Wow, this thread went to hell quickly. Anyhow, interesting comment by Manusky:
Manusky said he believes the 49ers' front seven is "solid." He admitted the team's defense has been vanilla during the exhibition season. The actually scheming of opponents will not begin until next week with the 49ers open the regular season against the Cardinals.
"The front seven is solid, and the back end can cover some people," Manusky said. "We got to get guys (to) beat those one-on-one matchups and pressure the quarterback more."
Solid is exactly how I would describe them which translates into "average" IMHO. Obviously, we ALL realize that it will NOT be our front 7 carrying our secondary but our secondary, once again, carrying our front 7. Vanilla or not, producing just 1 ghost-sack in pre-season (worst in the NFL right now) is a STRONG indication that we can not win 1-on-1 battles. Some of this can be somewhat overcome by scheme and practice and repetition and perfection of this scheme but you STILL have to win your 1-on-1 battles. Period. And lets be real - we aren't exactly trying to perfect our tactics during pre-season games (though we should).
We just don't win 1-on-1 battles on a consistent basis. And does anyone really have confidence in Manusky to run a non-vanilla 3-4 scheme like every other 3-4 team in the NFL at this stage? The jury is still out but this will be a telling year for sure.
I agree with MM that nobody is pushing harder then Manusky for us to run as close to 60% of time as possible b/c it will mask the major issues we STILL have on defense.
In short, no, our pass rush is not better and could end up being worse given that Manny & Haralson will have to play every down this year and I have yet to see Manusky show an ounce of creativity in defensive game-planning. And equally important, if we do run as much as Raye would like, that means the defense will be on the field less which "could" result in fewer overall team sacks.
Could it all come together? We shall see...I sure hope so but it doesn't look promising at all so far.
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BigMar
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Wow, this thread went to hell quickly. Anyhow, interesting comment by Manusky:
Manusky said he believes the 49ers' front seven is "solid." He admitted the team's defense has been vanilla during the exhibition season. The actually scheming of opponents will not begin until next week with the 49ers open the regular season against the Cardinals.
"The front seven is solid, and the back end can cover some people," Manusky said. "We got to get guys (to) beat those one-on-one matchups and pressure the quarterback more."
Solid is exactly how I would describe them which translates into "average" IMHO. Obviously, we ALL realize that it will NOT be our front 7 carrying our secondary but our secondary, once again, carrying our front 7. Vanilla or not, producing just 1 ghost-sack in pre-season (worst in the NFL right now) is a STRONG indication that we can not win 1-on-1 battles. Some of this can be somewhat overcome by scheme and practice and repitition and perfection of this scheme but you, more often then not, STILL have to win your 1-on-1 battles. Period. And lets be real - we aren't exactly trying to perfect our tactics during pre-season games.
And frankly, we don't win 1-on-1 battles on a consistent basis either. And does anyone really have confidence in Manusky to run a non-vanilla 3-4 scheme like every other 3-4 team in the NFL?
I agree with MM that nobody is pushing harder for us to run as close to 60% of time as possible b/c it will mask the major issues we STILL have on defense.
In short, no, our pass rush is not better and could end up being worse given that Manny & Haralson will have to play every down this year and I have yet to see Manusky show an ounce of creativity in defensive game-planning.
Could it all come together? We shall see...I sure hope so but it doesn't look promising at all so far.
His last two paragraphs.... dat's true.
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Wow, this thread went to hell quickly. Anyhow, interesting comment by Manusky:
Manusky said he believes the 49ers' front seven is "solid." He admitted the team's defense has been vanilla during the exhibition season. The actually scheming of opponents will not begin until next week with the 49ers open the regular season against the Cardinals.
"The front seven is solid, and the back end can cover some people," Manusky said. "We got to get guys (to) beat those one-on-one matchups and pressure the quarterback more."
Solid is exactly how I would describe them which translates into "average" IMHO. Obviously, we ALL realize that it will NOT be our front 7 carrying our secondary but our secondary, once again, carrying our front 7. Vanilla or not, producing just 1 ghost-sack in pre-season (worst in the NFL right now) is a STRONG indication that we can not win 1-on-1 battles. Some of this can be somewhat overcome by scheme and practice and repitition and perfection of this scheme but you, more often then not, STILL have to win your 1-on-1 battles. Period. And lets be real - we aren't exactly trying to perfect our tactics during pre-season games.
And frankly, we don't win 1-on-1 battles on a consistent basis either. And does anyone really have confidence in Manusky to run a non-vanilla 3-4 scheme like every other 3-4 team in the NFL?
I agree with MM that nobody is pushing harder for us to run as close to 60% of time as possible b/c it will mask the major issues we STILL have on defense.
In short, no, our pass rush is not better and could end up being worse given that Manny & Haralson will have to play every down this year and I have yet to see Manusky show an ounce of creativity in defensive game-planning.
Could it all come together? We shall see...I sure hope so but it doesn't look promising at all so far.
This is the 100% correct.
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1 sack in 3 preaseason games.....
That pretty much sums up my excitement for this years pass rush.
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BigMar
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Originally posted by srcasm76:
1 sack in 3 preaseason games.....
That pretty much sums up my excitement for this years pass rush.
but, but, but, but.....weez get pass pressure, so we are told (LOL)
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Manusky and Singletary, but they don't know crap!
I think, from looking at the personnel, and listening to the coaches that we will have to wait for the blitz packages. The coaches must feel with improvement from our DBs and better play from our safeties we will be able to take Pwilly of the chain, with the rest of our linebackers.
Remember just because it is a 3-4 you still have to send 4 or more to pressure the QB!
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Sad thing is, our pass rush will likely only get better by picking up some other team's trash after tomorrow's cuts. Yes, that's how mediocre the pass-rush talent is on this team.
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Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
Manusky and Singletary, but they don't know crap!
I think, from looking at the personnel, and listening to the coaches that we will have to wait for the blitz packages. The coaches must feel with improvement from our DBs and better play from our safeties we will be able to take Pwilly of the chain, with the rest of our linebackers.
Remember just because it is a 3-4 you still have to send 4 or more to pressure the QB!
Manusky and Singletary don't make the personnel decisions (in terms of signing and drafting), so technically they're not at fault here. All they can do is coach up the talent they have on the roster, and choose among the best of a bad bunch.
I am the one with tunnel vision. Oh that is priceless!!!!!
