Shedeur Sanders Anyone ?

Shedeur Sanders played really well today, he threw a bad pick, but he still outplayed Rogers. He made some really nice throws. He did throw another pick that nobody blames him for. I thought that the Steelers were clearly too mindful of Miles Garrett breaking the sack record that it actually made an upset very possible for the Browns. Preventing Miles from getting the sack record poorly effecting the Steelers game plan, and it costed them the game.

Clevland will be foolish to talk about drafting a QB in the draft. They need to build around Shedeur.

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Shedeur Sanders played really well today, he threw a bad pick, but he still outplayed Rogers. He made some really nice throws. He did throw another pick that nobody blames him for. I thought that the Steelers were clearly too mindful of Miles Garrett breaking the sack record that it actually made an upset very possible for the Browns. Preventing Miles from getting the sack record poorly effecting the Steelers game plan, and it costed them the game.

Clevland will be foolish to talk about drafting a QB in the draft. They need to build around Shedeur.

It will be interesting to see what Cleveland does with the roster @ QB.....still have to figure out what happens when Watson is medically ready to play...they opened his practice window recently. Then, there's still Gabriel....who is the back-up to Sanders? I agree that it would be foolish to draft another at this stage, but you never know. Naturally, most franchises would like a mulligan for foolish decisions but man, would they like to go back in time and forget that trade for Watson......just a huge albatross hanging over multiple seasons.

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Shedeur Sanders played really well today, he threw a bad pick, but he still outplayed Rogers. He made some really nice throws. He did throw another pick that nobody blames him for. I thought that the Steelers were clearly too mindful of Miles Garrett breaking the sack record that it actually made an upset very possible for the Browns. Preventing Miles from getting the sack record poorly effecting the Steelers game plan, and it costed them the game.

Clevland will be foolish to talk about drafting a QB in the draft. They need to build around Shedeur.

I actually watched the game, it was on a TV at the sports bar. He did not look good. He missed many easy passes, wildly inaccurate. And the passes he did complete looked like punts with how wobbly they were.

One pass was so under thrown and wobbly it got Fannin hurt. Not sure if he even came back into the game. Maybe he did, I don't know.

Yeah this is a learning season for Shedeur. You can see the potential, but you can also see the youth/inexperience.

On that stupid INT... your team is up 4pts... the momentum isn't on the other side... you have the ball. You don't attempt that kind of pass.

Originally posted by floridaMan:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Shedeur Sanders played really well today, he threw a bad pick, but he still outplayed Rogers. He made some really nice throws. He did throw another pick that nobody blames him for. I thought that the Steelers were clearly too mindful of Miles Garrett breaking the sack record that it actually made an upset very possible for the Browns. Preventing Miles from getting the sack record poorly effecting the Steelers game plan, and it costed them the game.

Clevland will be foolish to talk about drafting a QB in the draft. They need to build around Shedeur.

I actually watched the game, it was on a TV at the sports bar. He did not look good. He missed many easy passes, wildly inaccurate. And the passes he did complete looked like punts with how wobbly they were.

One pass was so under thrown and wobbly it got Fannin hurt. Not sure if he even came back into the game. Maybe he did, I don't know.

I watched the whole game as well. I'm not sure what game you watched but to say that Shedeur didn't look good is incorrect. did he throw a few wobblers? Yes. But so did Rogers, who Shedeur outplayed. This was a wet game. And while Shedeur did have a few wobblers he threw more dimes than wobblers. That TD to Fannin, while a wobbler that he had to adjust to, was put in the perfect backdoor location where only he could catch it. Had that ball been put in front of Fannin it would have been intercepted.

In the 2nd half neither offenses looked good due to halftime adjustments because Shedeur cooked in the 1st half. The Browns just has a better defense, and it showed. But to say that Shedeur didn't look good is just wrong. I watched it with fellow coaches. Nobody I know that actually watched that game with any unbiased eye came away thinking that Shedeur "didn't look good" while simultaneously outplaying Rogers. You can't have it both ways.

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Yeah this is a learning season for Shedeur. You can see the potential, but you can also see the youth/inexperience.

On that stupid INT... your team is up 4pts... the momentum isn't on the other side... you have the ball. You don't attempt that kind of pass.

Yeah, that 2nd INT was a clear rookie mistake. You can't make that throw. But overall, he did very well.

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by floridaMan:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Shedeur Sanders played really well today, he threw a bad pick, but he still outplayed Rogers. He made some really nice throws. He did throw another pick that nobody blames him for. I thought that the Steelers were clearly too mindful of Miles Garrett breaking the sack record that it actually made an upset very possible for the Browns. Preventing Miles from getting the sack record poorly effecting the Steelers game plan, and it costed them the game.

Clevland will be foolish to talk about drafting a QB in the draft. They need to build around Shedeur.

I actually watched the game, it was on a TV at the sports bar. He did not look good. He missed many easy passes, wildly inaccurate. And the passes he did complete looked like punts with how wobbly they were.

One pass was so under thrown and wobbly it got Fannin hurt. Not sure if he even came back into the game. Maybe he did, I don't know.

I watched the whole game as well. I'm not sure what game you watched but to say that Shedeur didn't look good is incorrect. did he throw a few wobblers? Yes. But so did Rogers, who Shedeur outplayed. This was a wet game. And while Shedeur did have a few wobblers he threw more dimes than wobblers. That TD to Fannin, while a wobbler that he had to adjust to, was put in the perfect backdoor location where only he could catch it. Had that ball been put in front of Fannin it would have been intercepted.

In the 2nd half neither offenses looked good due to halftime adjustments because Shedeur cooked in the 1st half. The Browns just has a better defense, and it showed. But to say that Shedeur didn't look good is just wrong. I watched it with fellow coaches. Nobody I know that actually watched that game with any unbiased eye came away thinking that Shedeur "didn't look good" while simultaneously outplaying Rogers. You can't have it both ways.

Sanders led his team to 13 points on a completely depleted and overrated Steelers roster. Thank god for the Browns defense, and some awful calls by the stripes.

I lol'd when Sanders came up like 7 yards short on a 3rd down run, but hopped up and celebrated like he just won the Super Bowl. Definitely not playing like a first day draft pick.

Shedeur played decent until the first pick and then it was like a switch flipped and he was kinda bad after that.

Originally posted by floridaMan:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by floridaMan:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Shedeur Sanders played really well today, he threw a bad pick, but he still outplayed Rogers. He made some really nice throws. He did throw another pick that nobody blames him for. I thought that the Steelers were clearly too mindful of Miles Garrett breaking the sack record that it actually made an upset very possible for the Browns. Preventing Miles from getting the sack record poorly effecting the Steelers game plan, and it costed them the game.

Clevland will be foolish to talk about drafting a QB in the draft. They need to build around Shedeur.

I actually watched the game, it was on a TV at the sports bar. He did not look good. He missed many easy passes, wildly inaccurate. And the passes he did complete looked like punts with how wobbly they were.

One pass was so under thrown and wobbly it got Fannin hurt. Not sure if he even came back into the game. Maybe he did, I don't know.

I watched the whole game as well. I'm not sure what game you watched but to say that Shedeur didn't look good is incorrect. did he throw a few wobblers? Yes. But so did Rogers, who Shedeur outplayed. This was a wet game. And while Shedeur did have a few wobblers he threw more dimes than wobblers. That TD to Fannin, while a wobbler that he had to adjust to, was put in the perfect backdoor location where only he could catch it. Had that ball been put in front of Fannin it would have been intercepted.

In the 2nd half neither offenses looked good due to halftime adjustments because Shedeur cooked in the 1st half. The Browns just has a better defense, and it showed. But to say that Shedeur didn't look good is just wrong. I watched it with fellow coaches. Nobody I know that actually watched that game with any unbiased eye came away thinking that Shedeur "didn't look good" while simultaneously outplaying Rogers. You can't have it both ways.

Sanders led his team to 13 points on a completely depleted and overrated Steelers roster. Thank god for the Browns defense, and some awful calls by the stripes.

I lol'd when Sanders came up like 7 yards short on a 3rd down run, but hopped up and celebrated like he just won the Super Bowl. Definitely not playing like a first day draft pick.

Seriously? You say that when Shedeur is playing behind the worst O-line in the league playing their 12 O-line combination and playing practice squad players at 4 of the 5 O-lineman, AND a WR corps that rank last in the league?

Bias is a hell-of-a-drug

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by floridaMan:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Shedeur Sanders played really well today, he threw a bad pick, but he still outplayed Rogers. He made some really nice throws. He did throw another pick that nobody blames him for. I thought that the Steelers were clearly too mindful of Miles Garrett breaking the sack record that it actually made an upset very possible for the Browns. Preventing Miles from getting the sack record poorly effecting the Steelers game plan, and it costed them the game.

Clevland will be foolish to talk about drafting a QB in the draft. They need to build around Shedeur.

I actually watched the game, it was on a TV at the sports bar. He did not look good. He missed many easy passes, wildly inaccurate. And the passes he did complete looked like punts with how wobbly they were.

One pass was so under thrown and wobbly it got Fannin hurt. Not sure if he even came back into the game. Maybe he did, I don't know.

I watched the whole game as well. I'm not sure what game you watched but to say that Shedeur didn't look good is incorrect. did he throw a few wobblers? Yes. But so did Rogers, who Shedeur outplayed. This was a wet game. And while Shedeur did have a few wobblers he threw more dimes than wobblers. That TD to Fannin, while a wobbler that he had to adjust to, was put in the perfect backdoor location where only he could catch it. Had that ball been put in front of Fannin it would have been intercepted.

In the 2nd half neither offenses looked good due to halftime adjustments because Shedeur cooked in the 1st half. The Browns just has a better defense, and it showed. But to say that Shedeur didn't look good is just wrong. I watched it with fellow coaches. Nobody I know that actually watched that game with any unbiased eye came away thinking that Shedeur "didn't look good" while simultaneously outplaying Rogers. You can't have it both ways.

He didn't look good Bro. Didn't necessarily look bad either.

As for Didn't look good and outplaying Rodgers... you are saying this as if Rodgers himself played good. Neither QB looked good IMO.

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Seriously? You say that when Shedeur is playing behind the worst O-line in the league playing their 12 O-line combination and playing practice squad players at 4 of the 5 O-lineman, AND a WR corps that rank last in the league?

Bias is a hell-of-a-drug

None of this has anything to do with him flexing after a run that he was way short of a 1st down on.

Originally posted by krizay:
None of this has anything to do with him flexing after a run that he was way short of a 1st down on.

You know, I purposely didn't address this because I really didn't think it warranted the dignity of a response. Since Shedeur got the starting job I've tried to keep my analysis on his play and his play alone. I've been trying to keep the main thing, the main thing. But since you're insistent on pettiness, I thought your take on his celebration was just that – petty.

It was this kind of weak, insecure pettiness that the owners displayed that manufactured his drop to the 5th round. It was this kind of pettiness that caused Stefanski to play an obviously lessor QB over Shedeur even though Shedeur was the better-looking QB in camp (according to onlookers and local media) even with far less reps.

This celebration had absolutely no effect on the game at all, yet it was a focus of your critique of the kid. This petty critique is a microcosm of the feelings of this kid from the owners, feelings rooted in their own insecurities. Non-football metrics were used to excuse his manufactured drop, metrics that weren't of the illegal verity. He's guilty of bravado and brazen confidence with the understandable inability to display the brand of "humbleness" of a Black kid with a fatherless and troubled background, nothing more and nothing less. And for that he's worse than a woman abuser, womanizer, drug user, law breaker, or someone who cheats the game.

Jesus Christ, come talk to me when his celebration loses the Browns a game. My advise to Shedeur: keep dong what you're doing, including flexing.

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
You know, I purposely didn't address this because I really didn't think it warranted the dignity of a response. Since Shedeur got the starting job I've tried to keep my analysis on his play and his play alone. I've been trying to keep the main thing, the main thing. But since you're insistent on pettiness, I thought your take on his celebration was just that – petty.

It was this kind of weak, insecure pettiness that the owners displayed that manufactured his drop to the 5th round. It was this kind of pettiness that caused Stefanski to play an obviously lessor QB over Shedeur even though Shedeur was the better-looking QB in camp (according to onlookers and local media) even with far less reps.

This celebration had absolutely no effect on the game at all, yet it was a focus of your critique of the kid. This petty critique is a microcosm of the feelings of this kid from the owners, feelings rooted in their own insecurities. Non-football metrics were used to excuse his manufactured drop, metrics that weren't of the illegal verity. He's guilty of bravado and brazen confidence with the understandable inability to display the brand of "humbleness" of a Black kid with a fatherless and troubled background, nothing more and nothing less. And for that he's worse than a woman abuser, womanizer, drug user, law breaker, or someone who cheats the game.

Jesus Christ, come talk to me when his celebration loses the Browns a game. My advise to Shedeur: keep dong what you're doing, including flexing.