Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Well, they have the Titans at home I think. The Weather Channel says it'll be a high of 33 with only 7% chance of precipitation, and nowhere near as windy as the game with us. Weather will be somewhat of a factor only in that it'll be a little cold. The Browns are a better team than the Titans, so they should win this game. There's no excuse for Stefanski to go in with the conservative game plan that he deployed against us. We wanna see more, but we won't if Stefanski keeps the training wheels on. Stefanski is gonna have to open it up to truly see what they have in Shedeur. Deploying the game plan that he did against us surely won't allow anyone to see what Shedeur can do at this level. At this point in the season what do the Browns have to lose? They're 3-9, and from everything I've read (and seen) the team hasn't checked out.
So like you, I wanna see more. But Stefanski will have to take the handcuffs and training wheels off. Now, I know what some will say: maybe Shedeur isn't capable of running Stefanski's scheme (I would disagree because he ran a very similar scheme under Pat Shurmur to near perfection, with the worst OL). My answer to that will be: then Stefanski should wrap the scheme around Shedeur and what Shedeur does best to give him the best chance to succeed. To this point, Stefanski has not done that.
The league said that he's nothing more than a 5th round talent (you know I disagree). Stefanski's actions told us that he felt - right or wrong - that Dillan Gabriel was the better QB. So I say open things up, tailor the offence around Shedeur, and let him prove the league and Stefanski right . . . . . or wrong
I saw the replay on what should have been a safety.
had an easy open WR on out route
cant find replay. But left outside WR ran a go creating space. Left slot ran an out and was clearly open as defender peeled off to cover fannin in crossing route. Shadeur was staring at fannin
so I'd assume play design was option 1 Fannin and option 2 out route
the wr running out route had awful body language when he didn't get throw. Can't tell if it was jeudy
different play but another huge miss
The 49ers run a SIM pressure with Cover 1 behind it. This is a miss from Sanders in the first window due to poor footwork. As he drops, he slides to his right with too many small steps, which causes him to be late to Jeudy. Jeudy wins inside the flat defender, who ends up being… pic.twitter.com/1SDXOoIwyX
— Lance Reisland (Coach Riz) (@LanceReisland) December 1, 2025
FWIW I still believe in his arm talent. He should have been a 3rd round guy. A guy with a B+ overall arm (release, power, accuracy) with D level technique (footwork, reading D, pocket awareness)
DG I honestly didn't think was an nfl guy really. Short game rpo qb? Huh?
Now that's a fair take, though I disagree that he should have been a 3rd rounder. But I ask, how did Payton Manning look in his rookie year, who was fully supported by a HC and FO that actually wanted him?
You mentioned missed open WR's. Again, that's fair, and accurate. But tell me, what QB DON'T miss open WR's? Every game I see Purdy miss open WR's, and the vet QB he's playing against misses open WR's.
Speaking of WR's, the Browns WR corps is terrible, including Jeudy (contract notwithstanding). They don't get separation, they don't run good routes (especially Jeudy), and from what I've read the WR room is toxic with players routinely missing meetings. As for Jeudy, he's been hot garbage regardless of who the QB has been with all his drops and fumbles, even with Shedeur throwing him the ball. So he needs to sit his a$$ all the way down and STFU.
You mentioned "D level technique (footwork, reading D, pocket awareness)". Again, that's fair. I actually agree with that take. In fact, these were flaws that everyone saw of Shedeur at Colorado. But this is where I look at coaching. They drafted Shedeur. He's been in the building since day one. Just what have the coaches been doing all this time to actually develop this kid? If Stefanski truly had intentions on "developing" Shedeur he would have put him on the PS. After all, 5th round QB's with a bad final preseason outing don't make the 53, right? But then, Stefanski don't have a good track record of "developing", much less evaluating, QB's. Just look at the rookie QB's who's been under his tutelage as HC.
Look, Shedeur is going into his 3rd week of meaningful reps. Before then he was throwing to support staff and trashcans. He was drafted by a team in clear conflict with a HC that wanted no parts of him. And said HC has serious play design and blocking scheme flaws (as pointed out by J.T.) that Shedeur has to overcome, while the same said HC clearly refuses to embrace the kid and wrap his scheme around him. Talk about "nasty work".
For me, this whole Shedeur Sanders saga is a real indictment on the NFL, on so many levels. Personally, I think Shedeur would have been better off going undrafted. Boomer Esiason and Eric Dickerson let it out that NFL owners instructed GM's to take Shedeur off their boards (and most had him high on their boards). I maintain that had the owners not done that this whole Shedeur Sanders saga wouldn't be a thing. But when they did that it created this monster. And how Kevin Stefanski is handling Shedeur continues to feed that monster. And this has caused Shedeur to be judged and graded on an unfair scale.
But I'd rather have that risk than to see another handcuffed game plan for Shedeur against a lessor opponent.
When he showed in camp that he was the better QB Shanny & Co. admitted it to themselves and moved accordingly.