Shedeur Sanders Anyone ?

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Let's see what Eric Dickerson says about Shadeur and the draft.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5nG8tICVdv5UT1cTrNfoem?si=e73df303896e4861&nd=1&dlsi=9229d63be54d4990

They start talking about Shadeur at the 13:20 mark. It was linked in the USA Today article:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2025/08/21/shedeur-sanders-draft-fall-cleveland-browns-eric-dickerson/85768122007/

I listened to the whole interview. Dickerson only confirmed some things about how the owners have handled Shadeur, he exposed some horrible things about how the NFL owners have, and still do treat the players, especially their retired players. It's horrible. And, after listening to Dickerson I don't wanna ever hear what NFL teams, or the NFL can't afford. I knew the NFL players union was weak. I didn't know it was this weak. It borderlines cowardice.

Didn't listen. No interest in his views or, for that matter, any other retired non-Niner. Dickerson was always an egotistical sob. Regarding the union being weak and cowardly, makes you wonder why the average annual salary round the NFL is reportedly $3.2 million with the rookie minimum being around $800,000. And I don't recall the NFL claiming they couldn't afford something. Not wanting to spend their money on something is different. And I don't think the Shadeur story has anything to do with money.

Originally posted by English:
Didn't listen. No interest in his views or, for that matter, any other retired non-Niner. Dickerson was always an egotistical sob. Regarding the union being weak and cowardly, makes you wonder why the average annual salary round the NFL is reportedly $3.2 million with the rookie minimum being around $800,000. And I don't recall the NFL claiming they couldn't afford something. Not wanting to spend their money on something is different. And I don't think the Shadeur story has anything to do with money.

When I mentioned money I wasn't referencing Shadeur. I was referencing the other points Dickerson was making regarding health insurance for retired players comparing to NBA retired players (who get lifetime health insurance and their children get health insurance until the age of 27). In relation to Shadeur, he not only had his own brand and platform with millions of followers, he had a $14 mil car endorsement, another endorsement for $17 mil, not to mention the NIL money he's gotten. This he built for himself (with his fathers advice of course) without the NFL at all. And as we found, he got the first-of-it's-kind clause in his contract that (so far) he's set to earn $14 mil in jersey sales and the regular season hasn't even started.

Clearly, Shadeur came into the NFL not "needing" the NFL to sustain his life. Compared to all of his endorsements his rookie salary is pennies. The kid just wanted to play football. Now, if what Dickerson said is true (and I have no reason to think it's not as it matches exactly with what Boomer Esiason said) that the owners, among other things, wanted to teach Shadeur a lesson, then this speaks to a much deeper issue with the owners themselves (not Shadeur), particularly their archaic, outdated mode of thinking that don't match with this century's reality and players. (For example, see Jerry Jones/Micah Parsons.) In no reality was Shadeur Sanders not going to come into the league with media following. That was never going to happen. So when the owners put their collective thumbs on the draft scale and manufactured his 5th round drop it just put Shadeur's meteoric rise on steroids. This was perhaps the most watched draft in NFL history. Everyone watched Mel Kiper lose his mind with every QB taken before Shadeur (not named Cam Ward) and every round drop. In no world were fans ever going to take this 5th round narrative and shut up. People can clearly see right through this for what it is. The owners were never going to draw out the kind of "humble" from Shadeur that other players from other backgrounds often display.

So the way I see it, the owners themselves have a real problem in their mode of thinking. It's gonna get them into some real legal trouble sooner or later. In nowhere in this country is it legal for an employer to treat their employees in this fashion, pre and post hiring. No, I'm not saying that Shadeur should sue. Not making that case, nor do I think he should. My point here is that the way they do business in terms of how they handle it's employees, namely the players, has to change. In today's society with modern players this is not a sustainable employer/employee relationship. At some point it's catch up with them.

S. Sanders isn't the first player to fall in the draft due to character concerns. Imagine an employer passing on an every day Joe because they are a "bad fit".

One things for sure is that NYG looks like they made the right decision with Dart.

Originally posted by floridaMan:
S. Sanders isn't the first player to fall in the draft due to character concerns. Imagine an employer passing on an every day Joe because they are a "bad fit".

One things for sure is that NYG looks like they made the right decision with Dart.

Character concerns? What character concerns? There have no reports about Shadeur having poor character. No previous players, or even the press has ever reported Shadeur having poor character. All reports speak to how good and humble of a person he is, and God-fearing he is. So please, enlighten us on the character concerns.

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by floridaMan:
S. Sanders isn't the first player to fall in the draft due to character concerns. Imagine an employer passing on an every day Joe because they are a "bad fit".

One things for sure is that NYG looks like they made the right decision with Dart.

Character concerns? What character concerns? There have no reports about Shadeur having poor character. No previous players, or even the press has ever reported Shadeur having poor character. All reports speak to how good and humble of a person he is, and God-fearing he is. So please, enlighten us on the character concerns.

He seemingly failed every team interview he had. That's hard to do. Kind of like a "do you know who i am" attitude. He's a hard pass.

Do you think he should have been picked over Dart?

Hell, even d. Gabriel moved the offense down the field better than Sanders did.

Originally posted by floridaMan:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by floridaMan:
S. Sanders isn't the first player to fall in the draft due to character concerns. Imagine an employer passing on an every day Joe because they are a "bad fit".

One things for sure is that NYG looks like they made the right decision with Dart.

Character concerns? What character concerns? There have no reports about Shadeur having poor character. No previous players, or even the press has ever reported Shadeur having poor character. All reports speak to how good and humble of a person he is, and God-fearing he is. So please, enlighten us on the character concerns.

He seemingly failed every team interview he had. That's hard to do. Kind of like a "do you know who i am" attitude. He's a hard pass.

Do you think he should have been picked over Dart?

Hell, even d. Gabriel moved the offense down the field better than Sanders did.

How do you fail a team interview?

Maybe Solomon Thomas and Ruben Foster aced their 49ers team interview, But P. Mahomes failed his 49er interview?

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by floridaMan:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by floridaMan:
S. Sanders isn't the first player to fall in the draft due to character concerns. Imagine an employer passing on an every day Joe because they are a "bad fit".

One things for sure is that NYG looks like they made the right decision with Dart.

Character concerns? What character concerns? There have no reports about Shadeur having poor character. No previous players, or even the press has ever reported Shadeur having poor character. All reports speak to how good and humble of a person he is, and God-fearing he is. So please, enlighten us on the character concerns.

He seemingly failed every team interview he had. That's hard to do. Kind of like a "do you know who i am" attitude. He's a hard pass.

Do you think he should have been picked over Dart?

Hell, even d. Gabriel moved the offense down the field better than Sanders did.

How do you fail a team interview?

Maybe Solomon Thomas and Ruben Foster aced their 49ers team interview, But P. Mahomes failed his 49er interview?

I don't know. Maybe he nailed every team interview and still fell to the 5th round? What does that say about how he was valued?

I can see the NFL doing what Dickerson said
It's sure not a coincidence that the Kaepernick doc was scraped as soon.they saddled up with ESPN. s**t half the fans seem to think the games are staged and set up for certain teams to win so this isn't far fetched. There were rumors that the NFL made the Rams take Michael Sam

Originally posted by floridaMan:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by floridaMan:
S. Sanders isn't the first player to fall in the draft due to character concerns. Imagine an employer passing on an every day Joe because they are a "bad fit".

One things for sure is that NYG looks like they made the right decision with Dart.

Character concerns? What character concerns? There have no reports about Shadeur having poor character. No previous players, or even the press has ever reported Shadeur having poor character. All reports speak to how good and humble of a person he is, and God-fearing he is. So please, enlighten us on the character concerns.

He seemingly failed every team interview he had. That's hard to do. Kind of like a "do you know who i am" attitude. He's a hard pass.

Do you think he should have been picked over Dart?

Hell, even d. Gabriel moved the offense down the field better than Sanders did.

You used the word qualifying word "seemingly" to express certainty of his failure of "every" interview. You 1) haven't advanced any proof of that certainty and no proof that he actually failed the interview. To my knowledge only one team - the Giants - have come with this interview failure assertion. No other team has, and given that lack of reports from other teams I place no validity in the Giants claim, especially since his father has come out and flatly denied the Giants claim.

Do I think Shadeur should have been picked over Dark? You goddamn right I do! No talent evaluator in the country had Dart over Shadeur, minus the NFL owners who have other agendas as Eric Dickerson and Boomer Esiason have laid out. NONE! Plus, Dart is in an organization that's actually supporting him. Besides, they have to. they are the ones who made this bogus interview claim. So they need to make that pick right.

Dillon Gabreil, is that you? Nobody honestly watching those games came away thinking that Dillon looked better operating the offense better than Shadeur, especially when you factor in the 2 turnovers (one a pick 6) that were caused by Dillon. Had Shadeur done that he'd be in the Canadian league by now.

Get the total fucc otta here with that

Originally posted by floridaMan:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by floridaMan:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by floridaMan:
S. Sanders isn't the first player to fall in the draft due to character concerns. Imagine an employer passing on an every day Joe because they are a "bad fit".

One things for sure is that NYG looks like they made the right decision with Dart.

Character concerns? What character concerns? There have no reports about Shadeur having poor character. No previous players, or even the press has ever reported Shadeur having poor character. All reports speak to how good and humble of a person he is, and God-fearing he is. So please, enlighten us on the character concerns.

He seemingly failed every team interview he had. That's hard to do. Kind of like a "do you know who i am" attitude. He's a hard pass.

Do you think he should have been picked over Dart?

Hell, even d. Gabriel moved the offense down the field better than Sanders did.

How do you fail a team interview?

Maybe Solomon Thomas and Ruben Foster aced their 49ers team interview, But P. Mahomes failed his 49er interview?

I don't know. Maybe he nailed every team interview and still fell to the 5th round? What does that say about how he was valued?

To ask that question is to assumes a fair and impartial process to begin with, coming from an entity that has been proven to be unfair, partial, and full of agendas.

Open question to all: why isn't the NFL suing Eric Dickerson regarding his claims?

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by floridaMan:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by floridaMan:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by floridaMan:
S. Sanders isn't the first player to fall in the draft due to character concerns. Imagine an employer passing on an every day Joe because they are a "bad fit".

One things for sure is that NYG looks like they made the right decision with Dart.

Character concerns? What character concerns? There have no reports about Shadeur having poor character. No previous players, or even the press has ever reported Shadeur having poor character. All reports speak to how good and humble of a person he is, and God-fearing he is. So please, enlighten us on the character concerns.

He seemingly failed every team interview he had. That's hard to do. Kind of like a "do you know who i am" attitude. He's a hard pass.

Do you think he should have been picked over Dart?

Hell, even d. Gabriel moved the offense down the field better than Sanders did.

How do you fail a team interview?

Maybe Solomon Thomas and Ruben Foster aced their 49ers team interview, But P. Mahomes failed his 49er interview?

I don't know. Maybe he nailed every team interview and still fell to the 5th round? What does that say about how he was valued?

To ask that question is to assumes a fair and impartial process to begin with, coming from an entity that has been proven to be unfair, partial, and full of agendas.

Open question to all: why isn't the NFL suing Eric Dickerson regarding his claims?

Can I ask you a question, why do you think Sanders fell all the way to the 5th round then?

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by floridaMan:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by floridaMan:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by floridaMan:
S. Sanders isn't the first player to fall in the draft due to character concerns. Imagine an employer passing on an every day Joe because they are a "bad fit".

One things for sure is that NYG looks like they made the right decision with Dart.

Character concerns? What character concerns? There have no reports about Shadeur having poor character. No previous players, or even the press has ever reported Shadeur having poor character. All reports speak to how good and humble of a person he is, and God-fearing he is. So please, enlighten us on the character concerns.

He seemingly failed every team interview he had. That's hard to do. Kind of like a "do you know who i am" attitude. He's a hard pass.

Do you think he should have been picked over Dart?

Hell, even d. Gabriel moved the offense down the field better than Sanders did.

How do you fail a team interview?

Maybe Solomon Thomas and Ruben Foster aced their 49ers team interview, But P. Mahomes failed his 49er interview?

I don't know. Maybe he nailed every team interview and still fell to the 5th round? What does that say about how he was valued?

To ask that question is to assumes a fair and impartial process to begin with, coming from an entity that has been proven to be unfair, partial, and full of agendas.

Open question to all: why isn't the NFL suing Eric Dickerson regarding his claims?

Can I ask you a question, why do you think Sanders fell all the way to the 5th round then?

And why the 5th? Why not force him out of the draft to become an UDFA or join the Canadian League? All they have done by pushing him down to the 5th is make it a little harder for him.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Can I ask you a question, why do you think Sanders fell all the way to the 5th round then?

The performance isn't worth the circus. Seriously, do you think anyone would talk about Cleveland if he wasn't on the team? It's really a shame because I think Cleveland drafted one of the best defensive linemen in Mason Graham this year and no one seems to mention the pairing with Myles Garrett.

Well I'm convinced.

Played like a 2nd rounder his 1st game.

played like a day 3 draft pick today