DE Leonard Floyd - Atlanta Falcons

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Wtf is going on

I thought he did what was asked. And he was durable.

Originally posted by lamontb:
He brought on to be a situational pass rusher. Not much to complain about

He was brought in to be a situational pass rusher except they never filled the other situation

Originally posted by socalfan21:

Originally posted by lamontb:
He brought on to be a situational pass rusher. Not much to complain about

He was brought in to be a situational pass rusher except they never filled the other situation

Yep. It wasn't his fault he was asked to be a full time end.

But we want to get younger so this has to be a move to free up a spot for someone. Joey Bosa?

Originally posted by father49er:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
Make sense if we end up signing Joey Bosa.

I guess Joey is a PFF upgrade, but Floyd has been more durable.

And productive. Floyd has 28 sacks over the last 3 years and Bosa has 14. Floyd did what he was paid to do. 8.5 sacks isn't bad at all for a aging situational pass rusher. That's what we would probably get out of Joey if the guy could stay healthy.

Thats it, open try outs at DE. I've got 265 covered. Need to bulk up to 6'5.

Originally posted by scooterhd:
Thats it, open try outs at DE. I've got 265 covered. Need to bulk up to 6'5.

lmao. Good one!

I'm kind of upset with this move honestly. I'll wait to see what the final roster looks like but we're kind of talking out two sides of our mouths here. It looks like we're prioritizing guys who can stay healthy but then release the one DE who played in every game(even with his issues in run D)

Kind of feels like we're making the switch to be better at stopping the run but I can't help but think to next season when we need to close out a game we'll be asking why don't we have the guys to get to the QB.

But...I need to heed my own advice and not overreact early in the offseason.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by scooterhd:
Thats it, open try outs at DE. I've got 265 covered. Need to bulk up to 6'5.

lmao. Good one!

I'm kind of upset with this move honestly. I'll wait to see what the final roster looks like but we're kind of talking out two sides of our mouths here. It looks like we're prioritizing guys who can stay healthy but then release the one DE who played in every game(even with his issues in run D)

Kind of feels like we're making the switch to be better at stopping the run but I can't help but think to next season when we need to close out a game we'll be asking why don't we have the guys to get to the QB.

But...I need to heed my own advice and not overreact early in the offseason.

Fire sale this year around our core guys. If they dont have a good draft ......

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Wtf is going on

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Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by scooterhd:
Thats it, open try outs at DE. I've got 265 covered. Need to bulk up to 6'5.

lmao. Good one!

I'm kind of upset with this move honestly. I'll wait to see what the final roster looks like but we're kind of talking out two sides of our mouths here. It looks like we're prioritizing guys who can stay healthy but then release the one DE who played in every game(even with his issues in run D)

Kind of feels like we're making the switch to be better at stopping the run but I can't help but think to next season when we need to close out a game we'll be asking why don't we have the guys to get to the QB.

But...I need to heed my own advice and not overreact early in the offseason.

Fire sale this year around our core guys. If they dont have a good draft ......

I wouldn't say Floyd was a core guy - definitely a Brandon Staley guy and only had one year left on his deal.

I do agree with your other point though. This may be the most important draft in a long long time. Last year's class look pretty good from early returns, we have to use the things we learned from last year to have another great one.

Need at least two DTs and an edge rusher and some OL and LB help.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by scooterhd:
Thats it, open try outs at DE. I've got 265 covered. Need to bulk up to 6'5.

lmao. Good one!

I'm kind of upset with this move honestly. I'll wait to see what the final roster looks like but we're kind of talking out two sides of our mouths here. It looks like we're prioritizing guys who can stay healthy but then release the one DE who played in every game(even with his issues in run D)

Kind of feels like we're making the switch to be better at stopping the run but I can't help but think to next season when we need to close out a game we'll be asking why don't we have the guys to get to the QB.

But...I need to heed my own advice and not overreact early in the offseason.

Fire sale this year around our core guys. If they dont have a good draft ......

Even with a great draft it could take 2 to 3 years for guys to fully develop.

Originally posted by genus49:
lmao. Good one!

I'm kind of upset with this move honestly. I'll wait to see what the final roster looks like but we're kind of talking out two sides of our mouths here. It looks like we're prioritizing guys who can stay healthy but then release the one DE who played in every game(even with his issues in run D)

Kind of feels like we're making the switch to be better at stopping the run but I can't help but think to next season when we need to close out a game we'll be asking why don't we have the guys to get to the QB.

But...I need to heed my own advice and not overreact early in the offseason.

Floyd's 8.5 sacks were the quietest 8.5 sacks in history.

He did what he was asked but offered very little aside from the odd sack. He was terrible vs the run and PFF had him ranked as one of the leagues worse edges at 163 out of 211.

I'm quite positive we can get a rookie who can bring what he brought.

I didn't see this one coming.

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by scooterhd:
Thats it, open try outs at DE. I've got 265 covered. Need to bulk up to 6'5.

lmao. Good one!

I'm kind of upset with this move honestly. I'll wait to see what the final roster looks like but we're kind of talking out two sides of our mouths here. It looks like we're prioritizing guys who can stay healthy but then release the one DE who played in every game(even with his issues in run D)

Kind of feels like we're making the switch to be better at stopping the run but I can't help but think to next season when we need to close out a game we'll be asking why don't we have the guys to get to the QB.

But...I need to heed my own advice and not overreact early in the offseason.

Fire sale this year around our core guys. If they dont have a good draft ......

Even with a great draft it could take 2 to 3 years for guys to fully develop.

It depends.

Bosa, Deebo and Greenlaw were instant impact players as rookies in 2019.
Last year you can argue all the rookies were impact players early on - Green, Puni, Mustapha. Pearsall took some time but I think we can admit it was special circumstances with him.

Also if you look at the Rams they've gotten impact play from rookies each of the last two years - Puka, Byron Young, Kobie Turner in 2023, then Verse, Fiske, Kinchens and Beaux Limmer in 2024.

I think if we're trying to mimic any team it's the Rams. Go look at their 2023 draft it was crazy. 14 picks and no first rounder. They threw the book at the wall at it stuck a lot.

Just need Kyle to chill on the 3rd round RBs and try not to reach for guys we fall in love with.

And I think if you look at what positions our biggest needs are in, most of those frequently see out of the gate production from rookies.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by scooterhd:
Thats it, open try outs at DE. I've got 265 covered. Need to bulk up to 6'5.

lmao. Good one!

I'm kind of upset with this move honestly. I'll wait to see what the final roster looks like but we're kind of talking out two sides of our mouths here. It looks like we're prioritizing guys who can stay healthy but then release the one DE who played in every game(even with his issues in run D)

Kind of feels like we're making the switch to be better at stopping the run but I can't help but think to next season when we need to close out a game we'll be asking why don't we have the guys to get to the QB.

But...I need to heed my own advice and not overreact early in the offseason.

Fire sale this year around our core guys. If they dont have a good draft ......

Even with a great draft it could take 2 to 3 years for guys to fully develop.

It depends.

Bosa, Deebo and Greenlaw were instant impact players as rookies in 2019.
Last year you can argue all the rookies were impact players early on - Green, Puni, Mustapha. Pearsall took some time but I think we can admit it was special circumstances with him.

Also if you look at the Rams they've gotten impact play from rookies each of the last two years - Puka, Byron Young, Kobie Turner in 2023, then Verse, Fiske, Kinchens and Beaux Limmer in 2024.

I think if we're trying to mimic any team it's the Rams. Go look at their 2023 draft it was crazy. 14 picks and no first rounder. They threw the book at the wall at it stuck a lot.

Just need Kyle to chill on the 3rd round RBs and try not to reach for guys we fall in love with.

And I think if you look at what positions our biggest needs are in, most of those frequently see out of the gate production from rookies.

Yea, these guys had an impact on us going 6-11.

How do we look at last years rookies as a success after one 6-11 season? If we want to say that guys got significant playing time, cool. But lets stop acting like these guys didn'y help us get the #11 overall pick.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by socalfan21:

Originally posted by lamontb:
He brought on to be a situational pass rusher. Not much to complain about

He was brought in to be a situational pass rusher except they never filled the other situation

Yep. It wasn't his fault he was asked to be a full time end.

But we want to get younger so this has to be a move to free up a spot for someone. Joey Bosa?

29 years old vs 32 years old. The younger guy can't stay healthy.