Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by mayo49:
3 years of an aging veteran versus 15 years of a top prospect? Tough choice - I'd have to say no.

What if I told you that Lance would be a bust and a backup in the NFL by the end of his first contract? Do you make the trade for Rodgers then? How about if I told you that'd he just be an average passer?

Because honestly nobody knows for certain how he will turn out. We all hope he becomes a great QB but NFL Draft history is littered with great prospects that failed to perform as hoped. Rodgers on the other hand is a future HOFer coming off an MVP season. We know definitively who he is in the NFL.

Lance might become a great, top of the NFL QB, be slightly above average, average or a bust. The opportunity cost is taking the chance that he'll be the first one instead of the others.

For what it's worth, I'd take 3-4 years of Rodgers over any QB in this draft because you know exactly what you're getting and with this roster that's 3-4 years of Superbowl contention barring major injuries.

Originally posted by zero:

Originally posted by 9ernick:
I don't completely hate the pick, but I think we mortgaged the farm for a QB that very well could have been there at 12.
Watching his highlights he looks like a 1 read, then run type of QB. Most of the highlights on youtube are just run plays, sprinkled in with a wide open bomb.
........patience would have served the team better.

From Eric Galko

#49ers fans, Trey Lance was one of the most beloved players in the 2021 NFL Draft. If he didn't go 3, I think he may have been going 4. And teams would have had a bidding war to get him.

He wouldn't be there at 12.............

Saves me typing it.

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Originally posted by hello49:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Originally posted by okdkid:
Would you trade Trey Lance for Aaron Rodgers?

YES! I'll drive him to the airport.

you crazy? Lance is 15 yrs younger and will be a superstar in this league!

You're right! It's so easy to decipher after 0 attempts in the NFL.

You will be happy we didn't do this trade a few years from now! You know you want Lance to be successful!

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 9ernick:
I don't completely hate the pick, but I think we mortgaged the farm for a QB that very well could have been there at 12.
Watching his highlights he looks like a 1 read, then run type of QB. Most of the highlights on youtube are just run plays, sprinkled in with a wide open bomb.
........patience would have served the team better.

Way too many reports of teams coveting him earlier, starting with Atlanta at #4. I think even if the 49ers don't move up, he would have been the next QB off the board.

Yeah, I was watching his first Pro Day video, which I think happened before we traded. The commentators are very positive in that context, but they did end on the note that they think Trey Lance wouldn't make it out of the Top 10 and a team who wanted him would have to trade up. Carolina would've been a good fit.

Besides... a franchise QB is not someone you just hope falls into your lap. If you believe in a guy and you calculate the risk/reward, you go and get him. QB is just too premium of a position.

Spot on.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by mayo49:
3 years of an aging veteran versus 15 years of a top prospect? Tough choice - I'd have to say no.

What if I told you that Lance would be a bust and a backup in the NFL by the end of his first contract? Do you make the trade for Rodgers then? How about if I told you that'd he just be an average passer?

Because honestly nobody knows for certain how he will turn out. We all hope he becomes a great QB but NFL Draft history is littered with great prospects that failed to perform as hoped. Rodgers on the other hand is a future HOFer coming off an MVP season. We know definitively who he is in the NFL.

Lance might become a great, top of the NFL QB, be slightly above average, average or a bust. The opportunity cost is taking the chance that he'll be the first one instead of the others.

If Lance turned out to be average, then it'd be a no-brainer I'd take Rodgers. But, I'm projecting that he'd be an all-pro, so I wouldn't do it.

will he choose #5 or #9? hopefully #9.

"They have their Ferrari." Nice, Jerry.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by mayo49:
3 years of an aging veteran versus 15 years of a top prospect? Tough choice - I'd have to say no.

What if I told you that Lance would be a bust and a backup in the NFL by the end of his first contract? Do you make the trade for Rodgers then? How about if I told you that'd he just be an average passer?

Because honestly nobody knows for certain how he will turn out. We all hope he becomes a great QB but NFL Draft history is littered with great prospects that failed to perform as hoped. Rodgers on the other hand is a future HOFer coming off an MVP season. We know definitively who he is in the NFL.

Lance might become a great, top of the NFL QB, be slightly above average, average or a bust. The opportunity cost is taking the chance that he'll be the first one instead of the others.

If Lance turned out to be average, then it'd be a no-brainer I'd take Rodgers. But, I'm projecting that he'd be an all-pro, so I wouldn't do it.

I'm telling you..he is going to be a top 5 QB. Other teams are all gonna wish they had a Trey Lance!

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by mayo49:
3 years of an aging veteran versus 15 years of a top prospect? Tough choice - I'd have to say no.

What if I told you that Lance would be a bust and a backup in the NFL by the end of his first contract? Do you make the trade for Rodgers then? How about if I told you that'd he just be an average passer?

Because honestly nobody knows for certain how he will turn out. We all hope he becomes a great QB but NFL Draft history is littered with great prospects that failed to perform as hoped. Rodgers on the other hand is a future HOFer coming off an MVP season. We know definitively who he is in the NFL.

Lance might become a great, top of the NFL QB, be slightly above average, average or a bust. The opportunity cost is taking the chance that he'll be the first one instead of the others.

For what it's worth, I'd take 3-4 years of Rodgers over any QB in this draft because you know exactly what you're getting and with this roster that's 3-4 years of Superbowl contention barring major injuries.

what if i toild you Rodgers wouldn't be getting past the NFCCG in those 3-4 years ...

Originally posted by NYniner85:
And I gave you film from the Montana state game showing him layering throws, throwing with touch and yes still throwing ropes.

it's there

Originally posted by Midbay:
As a big mobile thrower the best path to the NFL is through UW and NDSU!

I know a very large number of Wyoming fans and boosters and was around that place for a little while while Tiller was the HC. Tiller certainly had some success in college football but Bohl is the real deal as a coach and he seems to really take pride in scouting and developing his players. He has had limited ability to attract blue-chip players due to the small school nature of NDSU and the frigid misery of Laramie, but it seems he prefers to forgo the pressure of a bigger program for the opportunity he gets to mold his kids.

Originally posted by maxsmart:
True, people here were very stoked about Solomon Thomas, Reuben Foster, McGlinchey, Dante Pettis, etc but most will not admit their mistake

Honestly we don't know, Mac will be likely be good, Lance might be great but is also VERY high risk projection

Originally posted by random49er:
competing theory: He never really wanted Mac, which is why he sold his soul to move up to 3.

Not sure why this can't clearly be seen by our fans, given how much we gave up to move there.

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by elguapo:
He is Cam Newton with better accuracy

No way.

he is Mahomes with just 1 yr of college ball under his belt. Jimmy could start for another 2 yrs, maybe longer. Played first football at age 14, so 4 yrs hi school and then one yr at small school conference....then one game last season. That's it.

he was my favorite athlete, but knew he had 1-2 yrs of learning before playing...unless JG gets injured. Then that would be interesting.

hard to believe this was KYle pick...this looks like group pick

Jimmy isn't here for 2 more years. 1 and then Lance. They are freeing up cap next season

Well lets see what happens when JG wins th SB

That's the one scenario people are overlooking.

If JG wins the SB this year there will be some healthy tension in these woods.

I'm a Jimmy fan so that should explain the above. But two things are relevant. One, injuries and missing a good part of 2 seasons. Two, the theory of selling your QB after 5 seasons so you can save $20 mil or $35 mil/ yr which allows you to sign your other key players.

Both factored into this pick, but the real shocker was going from #12 to 3. That took some doing, and some have roasted kyle (and JL) for doing so. But had we not, there is no way Lance would have been there at 12 and our two guys realized that full well.

Mac would have been a decent choice at 12, and ended up going 15...to BB of all people. Fields was a good choice but when he totally dropped off the screen the only thing that seemed reasonable, was worry about his medical situation...epilepsy. Would have worried me too if we took him.

Lance was the most athletic of the bunch, but certainly the greenest. 1 yr of college ball at a small school program was worrisome. He's been compared to several QBs, none of which i agree with but he sure reminds me of Mahomes except for his accuracy. And that reminded me that even Mahomes can't win with krapt for an OL.

Bottom line was $$$ to sign other key players, and jimmy's bad luck with staying healthy. As long as he stays around a yr, and who knows, maybe a 2nd yr, I'm fine with the pick. Someone posted that by playing only 17 games in college and 4 yrs in high school, Trey didn't learn a bunch of bad habits....agree there also.

As for Trey PLUS kyle...i would guess we got a winner. He certainly has the tools and if it's true he has a photographic memory, then this was truly a home run. Talent alone isn't enough. KS and JL may have just gotten the whole package....but with a yr at least of top end mentoring/ coaching.

Note: pre draft i was happy we were taking a QB, and also would have been happy with any one of the three, all 3 of which had downsides, as well as upsides...it's just that Trey's upsides were off the scale. As for Mac, at #12 ok. At 3, not so.

Originally posted by walker807:

Originally posted by 9ernick:
I don't completely hate the pick, but I think we mortgaged the farm for a QB that very well could have been there at 12.
Watching his highlights he looks like a 1 read, then run type of QB. Most of the highlights on youtube are just run plays, sprinkled in with a wide open bomb.
........patience would have served the team better.

They took the patient approach in 2017. This time they got who they think can be Mahomes.

I hope he is the next Mahomes, or better!

Time will tell

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I'm sure this has already been posted but whatever

Inside the draft room when John Lynch, Kyle Shanahan & Jed York made the call to Trey Lance 🥲

pic.twitter.com/AjuSmf261O

— KNBR (@KNBR) April 30, 2021

Kyle basically - you knew it right? I made it so obvious when we spoke - you're supposed to be a smart mf - you had a hunch right?!? Bc if you don't - I may change my mind - I made it obvious dude - you didn't pick up on that? Cmon you knew right?!?
Lol

Do you think maybe Kyle underestimated how interested others teams were? Maybe Trey got positive feedback from a lot of teams so had a hard time interpreting just how interested Lynch and Kyle were.

Originally posted by 9ernick:

Originally posted by walker807:

Originally posted by 9ernick:

I don't completely hate the pick, but I think we mortgaged the farm for a QB that very well could have been there at 12.
Watching his highlights he looks like a 1 read, then run type of QB. Most of the highlights on youtube are just run plays, sprinkled in with a wide open bomb.
........patience would have served the team better.

They took the patient approach in 2017. This time they got who they think can be Mahomes.

I hope he is the next Mahomes, or better!

Time will tell

The one read and run thing is just not accurate. I understand why that's the perception, because he takes running lanes that are there. Lance showed he knew how plays were supposed to work, and when it wasn't there, if there was an opening, he didn't hesitate. I think that's a big difference.

Originally posted by 9ernick:

Originally posted by walker807:

Originally posted by 9ernick:
I don't completely hate the pick, but I think we mortgaged the farm for a QB that very well could have been there at 12.
Watching his highlights he looks like a 1 read, then run type of QB. Most of the highlights on youtube are just run plays, sprinkled in with a wide open bomb.
........patience would have served the team better.

They took the patient approach in 2017. This time they got who they think can be Mahomes.

I hope he is the next Mahomes, or better!

Time will tell

who wouldn't... but do you see Mahomes being this good with every coaches in the NFL right now?

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by mayo49:
3 years of an aging veteran versus 15 years of a top prospect? Tough choice - I'd have to say no.

What if I told you that Lance would be a bust and a backup in the NFL by the end of his first contract? Do you make the trade for Rodgers then? How about if I told you that'd he just be an average passer?

Because honestly nobody knows for certain how he will turn out. We all hope he becomes a great QB but NFL Draft history is littered with great prospects that failed to perform as hoped. Rodgers on the other hand is a future HOFer coming off an MVP season. We know definitively who he is in the NFL.

Lance might become a great, top of the NFL QB, be slightly above average, average or a bust. The opportunity cost is taking the chance that he'll be the first one instead of the others.

What if i told you if Rodgers was traded to the 49ers he retires a week later to take the Jeopardy job?

Because honestly nobody knows for certain what he will do. We all hope he becomes another Tom Brady but the NFL is littered with great QBs who one day fall off a cliff and turn into 2015 Peyton Manning.

Rodgers might work out... He might not. Its Super Bowl or bust for a 37 year old QB making 30 million next year who hasn't been to a Super bowl in 10 years.