Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

I haven't paid attention the last week or two but I don't recall Kyle ever saying it was an open competition. I thought he was pretty clear that they liked a healthy Jimmy. Unless Trey completely balls out of his mind, it's Jimmy's job to lose or get injured.

Originally posted by K1ngAsD3rek:
I haven't paid attention the last week or two but I don't recall Kyle ever saying it was an open competition. I thought he was pretty clear that they liked a healthy Jimmy. Unless Trey completely balls out of his mind, it's Jimmy's job to lose or get injured.

Correct. He's also saying Jimmy is the leader, good body language, etc. to pump up trade value, if/when Trey overtakes him.

All we know is Garoppolo appears to be getting the starting reps tomorrow. We'll see how it changes, practice by practice.

Originally posted by mojave45:

Originally posted by 49ERnation:

Originally posted by mayo49:
What's the deal with Shanny - first he says there's going to be a Qb competition, now he says that there's no competition and that Jimmy is the starter and Trey is the back up?

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31899639/kyle-shanahan-makes-clear-san-francisco-49ers-open-camp-there-no-open-competition-right-now-no-1-quarterback

He said everyone will know when there is an open QB competition because everyone will be able to see it. If lance balls out in preseason game 1, Kyle will have no choice but to announce game on.

LOL... "Kyle has no choice". Of course he does, he will decide when and if there is a competition. And doing great in one preseason game isn't likely to persuade him.

Thats what happens when you have no plan.

You trade a second for a QB, Pay said QB $125+ million, and then spend 3 first rounders on a rookie QB.

The problem is that there is only one ball...

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by mojave45:

Originally posted by 49ERnation:

Originally posted by mayo49:
What's the deal with Shanny - first he says there's going to be a Qb competition, now he says that there's no competition and that Jimmy is the starter and Trey is the back up?

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31899639/kyle-shanahan-makes-clear-san-francisco-49ers-open-camp-there-no-open-competition-right-now-no-1-quarterback

He said everyone will know when there is an open QB competition because everyone will be able to see it. If lance balls out in preseason game 1, Kyle will have no choice but to announce game on.

LOL... "Kyle has no choice". Of course he does, he will decide when and if there is a competition. And doing great in one preseason game isn't likely to persuade him.

Thats what happens when you have no plan.

You trade a second for a QB, Pay said QB $125+ million, and then spend 3 first rounders on a rookie QB.

The problem is that there is only one ball...

What makes you think there isn't a plan? Just because he doesn't plan on the New QB start on on day one doesn't mean he doesn't have a plan.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
if we sign Bosa before 2022, we won't take a 20 mil hit until 2023

All depends on the signing bonus....also it's not just about Bosa I just threw that out there, it's about having money in general.

You can't keep resetting the market over and over. Why no one wants and extra $41.4M next yr to help out young QB is beyond me.

who is no one ?

You apparently, you got this issue with asking Jimmy to take a pay cut

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
if we sign Bosa before 2022, we won't take a 20 mil hit until 2023

All depends on the signing bonus....also it's not just about Bosa I just threw that out there, it's about having money in general.

You can't keep resetting the market over and over. Why no one wants and extra $41.4M next yr to help out young QB is beyond me.

who is no one ?

You apparently, you got this issue with asking Jimmy to take a pay cut

Why on earth would he accept a restructure ? His heir apparent is in the room. There is zero reason for him to agree at this point. I would keep every penny the team agreed to. You truly expect a player to say, sure cut my pay so you can have more money for, FA after I am gone? 😂

Originally posted by 49ERnation:

Originally posted by mayo49:
What's the deal with Shanny - first he says there's going to be a Qb competition, now he says that there's no competition and that Jimmy is the starter and Trey is the back up?

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31899639/kyle-shanahan-makes-clear-san-francisco-49ers-open-camp-there-no-open-competition-right-now-no-1-quarterback

He said everyone will know when there is an open QB competition because everyone will be able to see it. If lance balls out in preseason game 1, Kyle will have no choice but to announce game on.

Yep. His hand is forced now. Like it or not. Trey is being labeled as a possible rookie of the year candidate by some

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
if we sign Bosa before 2022, we won't take a 20 mil hit until 2023

All depends on the signing bonus....also it's not just about Bosa I just threw that out there, it's about having money in general.

You can't keep resetting the market over and over. Why no one wants and extra $41.4M next yr to help out young QB is beyond me.

who is no one ?

You apparently, you got this issue with asking Jimmy to take a pay cut

Where/when did I say that. I've kept saying that I don't lol

I've said it would be nice, but not likely to happen and that upsets you.

Originally posted by mojave45:
Why on earth would he accept a restructure ? His heir apparent is in the room. There is zero reason for him to agree at this point. I would keep every penny the team agreed to. You truly expect a player to say, sure cut my pay so you can have more money for, FA after I am gone? 😂

Why? Because there isn't a single team in the NFL that would pay him anything close to what he's getting paid currently. No team is gonna pay him $12-$15M at this pt in the off season. Everyone has their QB room and no one has that money either. It's almost august.

you say take a pay cut or get cut…good luck getting anything close to what they would offer…he also gets a yr removed from his deal so he can become a FA in 2022 instead of being traded to the highest binder, he doesn't have a no-trade clause in 2022. He gets to compete to be a starter on a SB roster…he's not getting that anywhere else at this pt. He should be worried about his next contract imo

Hell throw in some incentives for playing time, pro-bowl, stats etc. in no world should he be the 5th highest player in football. He doesn't have leverage at all.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Where/when did I say that. I've kept saying that I don't lol

I've said it would be nice, but not likely to happen and that upsets you.

Lol that's not what you've been saying…

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Where/when did I say that. I've kept saying that I don't lol

I've said it would be nice, but not likely to happen and that upsets you.

Lol that's not what you've been saying…

I'm not good with the search feature, if you can. Please show me

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mojave45:
Why on earth would he accept a restructure ? His heir apparent is in the room. There is zero reason for him to agree at this point. I would keep every penny the team agreed to. You truly expect a player to say, sure cut my pay so you can have more money for, FA after I am gone? 😂

Why? Because there isn't a single team in the NFL that would pay him anything close to what he's getting paid currently. No team is gonna pay him $12-$15M at this pt in the off season. Everyone has their QB room and no one has that money either. It's almost august.

you say take a pay cut or get cut…good luck getting anything close to what they would offer…he also gets a yr removed from his deal so he can become a FA in 2022 instead of being traded to the highest binder, he doesn't have a no-trade clause in 2022. He gets to compete to be a starter on a SB roster…he's not getting that anywhere else at this pt. He should be worried about his next contract imo

Hell throw in some incentives for playing time, pro-bowl, stats etc. in no world should he be the 5th highest player in football. He doesn't have leverage at all.

Uh huh. And put a possible play off team in the capable hands of a rookie from a small school who hadn't plsyemuch and his backup is Rosen? Oh, I am sure that happens. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Originally posted by mayo49:
What's the deal with Shanny - first he says there's going to be a Qb competition, now he says that there's no competition and that Jimmy is the starter and Trey is the back up?

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31899639/kyle-shanahan-makes-clear-san-francisco-49ers-open-camp-there-no-open-competition-right-now-no-1-quarterback

I believe he said starter entering camp. There will still be a competition. There is always a competition.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I haven't checked it out, but NN has seemed to drop off lately since David Fucillo left the site in 2019, I like the new guy Kyle Posey, I need to get my account back activated, won't let me login, but and no offense to the WZ, I think NN has better front page, WZ has better forum/comment section, no real forum on NN, might not be there idea, all of SB Nation's websites have same design, just colors different to match teams.

NN IMO has more legit content in regards to film and football knowledge...I'm a fan of Posey, I've DM him a couple times asking about football stuff. He's pretty cool.

WZ for the most part is just opinion columns. Obviously love their forum both have their + and -

Agreed 100%

Originally posted by mojave45:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mojave45:
Why on earth would he accept a restructure ? His heir apparent is in the room. There is zero reason for him to agree at this point. I would keep every penny the team agreed to. You truly expect a player to say, sure cut my pay so you can have more money for, FA after I am gone? 😂

Why? Because there isn't a single team in the NFL that would pay him anything close to what he's getting paid currently. No team is gonna pay him $12-$15M at this pt in the off season. Everyone has their QB room and no one has that money either. It's almost august.

you say take a pay cut or get cut…good luck getting anything close to what they would offer…he also gets a yr removed from his deal so he can become a FA in 2022 instead of being traded to the highest binder, he doesn't have a no-trade clause in 2022. He gets to compete to be a starter on a SB roster…he's not getting that anywhere else at this pt. He should be worried about his next contract imo

Hell throw in some incentives for playing time, pro-bowl, stats etc. in no world should he be the 5th highest player in football. He doesn't have leverage at all.

Uh huh. And put a possible play off team in the capable hands of a rookie from a small school who hadn't plsyemuch and his backup is Rosen? Oh, I am sure that happens. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I'm with Mojave on this one, no one in the world takes a pay cut just for shizz and gigs, it's all about leverage, and he has enough.

Even if we only want him to start 3 games, or even if we want him as a backup, we agreed to the contract. What's really changed? A few injuries and drafting his replacement, hardly on him.