Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Rich Eisen show today seemed to be all about Trey

Everyone wants to eat him alive. Pretty sad.

Most were pretty reserved on their critique of Trey. Just stating the obvious that he is not in competition with Brock.

edit: I don't know why it's sad that people are reacting to the tape Trey put out

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Welp, I re-watched all the Trey Lance passes. First couple of series he was RUSty! Yuk. Yeah he didn't have the greatest OLine protection either. But the latter throws were pretty good. Clearly he needs more reps, but as QB2 he's not going to get starter reps that he needs to progress faster. His progress will be slow - but there has been progress that I can see. I think the latter half of the passes he threw were more of a realistic place where he is right now versus the first couple of passes. He did progress and settle down, after those first couple of sacks.

Criticisms - he's still taking too much time reading the defenses. That needs to improve. He doesn't have the short area burst that Brock has to get away from defenders. Those short passes are still getting away from him.

Positives - better mechanics, when he does see the window - great arm to get it there, and good placement and accuracy to get it there. He eventually threw some completed short passes and he definitely has better touch that his first year on those short throws. When he correctly recognizes the pocket is collapsing, he does have the mobility to move out and throw on the run.

I wouldn't put much stock in his first game performance after being injured, and he is still raw as heck for his career. He's only played 4+ games in his entire career in the NFL. If he stays healthy and continues to improve, like in the latter half of his throws - he'll be good. I'll want to see more improvement in his second game. I want him to start off strong in his second game next week. Hopefully I'll see less of the deer in the headlights stuff. If his mental side improves, we'll have a good QB. If not, obviously, he won't be here long.

Good points. He looked better as the game went on so that's a trend that continued, and a good sign for a young QB. Watching it live yesterday, I forgot that he isn't going to flip a switch and be accustomed to game speed, even if it was second string defense game speed. He needed to reacquaint himself to facing live bullets and although it took three drives, it did look better towards the end of the first half. He'll need to take baby steps.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by OKC49erFan:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by napo:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Sometimes this stuff isn't that complicated. KS wanted his Mahomes / Josh Allen. We reached for the traits. Turns out, those guys are a lil hard to find, and the draft is a crapshoot. The tin foil hats, can come off.

Based on his minimal record in college, trading 3 first round draft choices for Trey was simply a huge error in judgment. Too much of a gamble to justify the massive expenditure.

To be fair, people say 3 firsts but that really wasn't technically true. It was 2 firsts to swap spots.

That said.. At this point yeah, no matter how you slice it, it comes out as a horrific trade. Thank God we got Purdy. Could you imagine if we didn't have him and Jimmy was gone now? I don't want to think about that.

More accurate to say three firsts to select Trey?

It's a silly never ending debate, but to me it will always be 3 firsts.

Cuz the answer, to who we got, with our 2021 1st, our 2022 1st, and our 2023 1st is one name, Trey Lance. We got no one else, with three years of round 1s.

We USED three 1sts to select Trey. Can't debate that.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Not just the team, but a lot of us fans did too. I knew he was green, and needed a couple of years to improve.

Originally posted by Predator85:
Trey Lance has the physical ability to be a good QB, he just doesn't have the vision nor trust his vision at this moment. He needs to be on a team where he can play the whole year.

This is what comes to mind

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
First quick pass play, Trey did the right thing and took a sack. DB was sitting on it ready to jump the route.

Second quick pass play, Trey hesitated to hit the TE, in-between two defenders. He did have a WR running deep behind them for a huge gain. I wonder if that caught his attention. Eitherway he should have hit the TE to hopefully extend the drive and try again.

First pass play Trey did not do the right thing. The right thing would be looking to the route combination on the left (double stick). That is the route combination used to beat single high zone, which is what the Raiders were in. Instead, he looked to the right, which was a variation of Double Slants. It's a pick-a-side play. The left side was to beat single high, the right side was to beat two high. He looked to his right. It was the incorrect presnap read. Had he correctly looked to his left, he would see the open WR.

(all Lance plays)

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
We should've drafted Justin. But hey 20/20 etc etc.

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I said this yesterday and want to reiterate. Its clear that the game hasnt slowed down for him yet. I think the more and more he plays, the more it will. You could already see improvement in the 2nd quarter from the 1st.

Will Trey ever get the playing time needed to develop here? Probably not....or dare I say hopefully not? Regardless, my opinion on him hasnt changed a bit after yesterday. I still have no idea if he is going to be good or not. And honestly, no one else on this board does either.

He could be good but needs at least two more years of development.

Originally posted by Dshearn:
go back and read pages 30-60ish in this tread, all kinds of people thought he ran a system like shanny's in college and might be the most prepared player to step foot on an NFL field in that draft.

Over estimations on his arm, mobility, vision...every thing was over hyped.

It is very much like Alex Smith al over again, and in hindsight it is surreal.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by boast:
he's good because the tweets said so is not a good debate foundation

So every single report by a beat writer for any player is trash. Got it.

How bad do you want him to fail? A lot by the sound of it.

Originally posted by Dshearn:
go back and read pages 30-60ish in this tread, all kinds of people thought he ran a system like shanny's in college and might be the most prepared player to step foot on an NFL field in that draft.

Over estimations on his arm, mobility, vision...every thing was over hyped.

It is very much like Alex Smith al over again, and in hindsight it is surreal.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by Dshearn:
go back and read pages 30-60ish in this tread, all kinds of people thought he ran a system like shanny's in college and might be the most prepared player to step foot on an NFL field in that draft.

Over estimations on his arm, mobility, vision...every thing was over hyped.

It is very much like Alex Smith al over again, and in hindsight it is surreal.

2005 Alex Smith would've been awesome to have drafted in place of rookie Trey, he was a much better pro prospect. I think Kyle could have worked with him, anyone drafted to that 2005 team was going to suck due to circumstances, and the team surrounding them. Rodgers would've gotten ruined by that staff/team, he wasn't as physically tough as Smith.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Trey Lance just needs all the reps in Preseason and 10 more years in Shanahan's system then he'd develop nicely as the #2 QB.