Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Kyle said half the sacks were on trey

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
maybe so, but he hasn't seen the posts on our board, that explain why he is wrong

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
According to the KPIX broadcast, Kyle scripted the first 16 plays yesterday.

Even worse. Lol that's a terrible look for everyone on O. You should be more prepared and focused if that's the case. No surprises in the play calling

Originally posted by boast:
he's good because the tweets said so is not a good debate foundation

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

The 49ers OL (all backups) allowed 11 pressures on 36 dropbacks (30.5%) on Sunday per @PFF. Woof.

— Kyle, a Madson (@KyleAMadson) August 14, 2023

PFF had Trey Lance under pressure on 10 of his 20 dropbacks. Quick math tells me that's 50%.

Sam Darnold pressured on 3 of 8 dropbacks (37.5%).

Brandon Allen pressured once on 8 dropbacks (12.5%).

— Kyle, a Madson (@KyleAMadson) August 14, 2023

30.5% pressure rate isn't bad overall. Sounds like the o line started to settle more and more as the game went on. 50% is super high though. The pass pro didn't do Trey any favors but Trey's 3.87 TTT under pressure suggests he didn't do them any favors either. I am sure Trey will do his part and get his mistakes corrected. I expect him to come out looking a lot better next week.

Brock finished last year at 3.6 TTT

We all know how often Brock held the ball looking down field....

That is the one misleading part of TTT.... your quick throws can be super quick, and then inflated by long holds....since it is an average.

Merge TTT with Completion Percentage and average depth of throw and that will tell you what your eyes already have.

In Lance's case the dude did not look ready for that game, I wonder if the team does not script the first 10-15 plays for preseason like they do in the regular season. You would think Lance knew what plays he was going to be running for at least the last week, if not last 2 weeks.

According to the KPIX broadcast, Kyle scripted the first 16 plays yesterday.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

The 49ers OL (all backups) allowed 11 pressures on 36 dropbacks (30.5%) on Sunday per @PFF. Woof.

— Kyle, a Madson (@KyleAMadson) August 14, 2023

PFF had Trey Lance under pressure on 10 of his 20 dropbacks. Quick math tells me that's 50%.

Sam Darnold pressured on 3 of 8 dropbacks (37.5%).

Brandon Allen pressured once on 8 dropbacks (12.5%).

— Kyle, a Madson (@KyleAMadson) August 14, 2023

30.5% pressure rate isn't bad overall. Sounds like the o line started to settle more and more as the game went on. 50% is super high though. The pass pro didn't do Trey any favors but Trey's 3.87 TTT under pressure suggests he didn't do them any favors either. I am sure Trey will do his part and get his mistakes corrected. I expect him to come out looking a lot better next week.

Brock finished last year at 3.6 TTT

We all know how often Brock held the ball looking down field....

That is the one misleading part of TTT.... your quick throws can be super quick, and then inflated by long holds....since it is an average.

Merge TTT with Completion Percentage and average depth of throw and that will tell you what your eyes already have.

In Lance's case the dude did not look ready for that game, I wonder if the team does not script the first 10-15 plays for preseason like they do in the regular season. You would think Lance knew what plays he was going to be running for at least the last week, if not last 2 weeks.

According to the KPIX broadcast, Kyle scripted the first 16 plays yesterday.

Right? You'd think the the whole team would have executed well…did kyle actually say this or is this an assumption?

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by OKC49erFan:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by napo:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Sometimes this stuff isn't that complicated. KS wanted his Mahomes / Josh Allen. We reached for the traits. Turns out, those guys are a lil hard to find, and the draft is a crapshoot. The tin foil hats, can come off.

Based on his minimal record in college, trading 3 first round draft choices for Trey was simply a huge error in judgment. Too much of a gamble to justify the massive expenditure.

To be fair, people say 3 firsts but that really wasn't technically true. It was 2 firsts to swap spots.

That said.. At this point yeah, no matter how you slice it, it comes out as a horrific trade. Thank God we got Purdy. Could you imagine if we didn't have him and Jimmy was gone now? I don't want to think about that.

More accurate to say three firsts to select Trey?

It's a silly never ending debate, but to me it will always be 3 firsts.

Cuz the answer, to who we got, with our 2021 1st, our 2022 1st, and our 2023 1st is one name, Trey Lance. We got no one else, with three years of round 1s.

Originally posted by tankle104:
Looks like Brock will be off of his restrictions - so he will take all the first team reps going forward. No more first team reps for lance and darnold.

Originally posted by tankle104:
Looks like Brock will be off of his restrictions - so he will take all the first team reps going forward. No more first team reps for lance and darnold.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
If that's the case then treys got.problems. I was giving him the benefit.of the doubt as he was playing with backups and a vanilla offense.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by OKC49erFan:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by napo:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Sometimes this stuff isn't that complicated. KS wanted his Mahomes / Josh Allen. We reached for the traits. Turns out, those guys are a lil hard to find, and the draft is a crapshoot. The tin foil hats, can come off.

Based on his minimal record in college, trading 3 first round draft choices for Trey was simply a huge error in judgment. Too much of a gamble to justify the massive expenditure.

To be fair, people say 3 firsts but that really wasn't technically true. It was 2 firsts to swap spots.

That said.. At this point yeah, no matter how you slice it, it comes out as a horrific trade. Thank God we got Purdy. Could you imagine if we didn't have him and Jimmy was gone now? I don't want to think about that.

More accurate to say three firsts to select Trey?

It's a silly never ending debate, but to me it will always be 3 firsts.

Cuz the answer, to who we got, with our 2021 1st, our 2022 1st, and our 2023 1st is one name, Trey Lance. We got no one else, with three years of round 1s.

We USED three 1sts to select Trey. Can't debate that.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Not for nothing but Lance's pressure rate was 50%, to put that in context only 5 other QBs had more so far this preseason.

Lol man, I'll agree and say he didn't do anyone any favors. He didn't play well…but how in the world can you judge anything or play football with that pressure rate? That's embarrassing for this team.

Because if TL really knew what he was doing he would have checked into plays to handle the pressure, or utilized the alerts call structure built into the plays, instead of looking like a deer in the headlights.

Like Brock Purdy did vs the Eagles?

Or when he got his ribs broken

But still manage to win games?? And perform like a franchise QB.

Must be nice having CMC/BA/Kittle and Deebo to dump the ball off. must be nice to have Williams blocking your blind side. Must be nice to actually have kyle call legit plays. Must be nice to have the defense gift you 20 TOs in 8 games.

Wtf

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Those aren't pressures man. He's literally got 5 secs before he even has to move.

I'm doing the SAME s**t you all do for lance. Anyone posts a highlight throw. You ALL s**t on it. We talk about the Texans game and you all s**t on it. Anytime a highlight video is brought up, let's see ALL the snaps.

I get posts about QB rating and stats. To support dudes like Sam. Well I guess that s**t doesn't matter given what his stats were yesterday, right?

we can't talk about bad throws that didn't turn into TOs for Brock, BUT we can for Lance?

If ya'll don't like it then don't do it the other way…don't be hypocritical. That's my point.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Looks like Brock will be off of his restrictions - so he will take all the first team reps going forward. No more first team reps for lance and darnold.

Hopefully he plays this week then. At least for a series. I don't even care if he only hands the ball off. Just get in the huddle, call the play, call protections/audibles, etc. I don't like the thought of his first live action coming in week 1 on the road.