Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Welp, I re-watched all the Trey Lance passes. First couple of series he was RUSty! Yuk. Yeah he didn't have the greatest OLine protection either. But the latter throws were pretty good. Clearly he needs more reps, but as QB2 he's not going to get starter reps that he needs to progress faster. His progress will be slow - but there has been progress that I can see. I think the latter half of the passes he threw were more of a realistic place where he is right now versus the first couple of passes. He did progress and settle down, after those first couple of sacks.
Criticisms - he's still taking too much time reading the defenses. That needs to improve. He doesn't have the short area burst that Brock has to get away from defenders. Those short passes are still getting away from him.
Positives - better mechanics, when he does see the window - great arm to get it there, and good placement and accuracy to get it there. He eventually threw some completed short passes and he definitely has better touch that his first year on those short throws. When he correctly recognizes the pocket is collapsing, he does have the mobility to move out and throw on the run.
I wouldn't put much stock in his first game performance after being injured, and he is still raw as heck for his career. He's only played 4+ games in his entire career in the NFL. If he stays healthy and continues to improve, like in the latter half of his throws - he'll be good. I'll want to see more improvement in his second game. I want him to start off strong in his second game next week. Hopefully I'll see less of the deer in the headlights stuff. If his mental side improves, we'll have a good QB. If not, obviously, he won't be here long.
Good points. He looked better as the game went on so that's a trend that continued, and a good sign for a young QB. Watching it live yesterday, I forgot that he isn't going to flip a switch and be accustomed to game speed, even if it was second string defense game speed. He needed to reacquaint himself to facing live bullets and although it took three drives, it did look better towards the end of the first half. He'll need to take baby steps.
I was hoping the rust wasn't going to be so apparent, but it was there unfortunately. Also Kyle was overconfident in Trey being able to pass against a raider defense geared to stopping the pass. Raiders opened up in pass defense, and I think Kyle will hopefully open up the next preseason game with more runs to help Trey settle down and to help the Denver defense settle down. He is just reading the defenses a smidge late, and unfortunately the only way I know how to speed that up is with more reps, which he won't get because of Purdy. Which is OK, Purdy is very clearly QB1 after yesterday's game.
It will be interesting to see how we approach next week's game. Will Brock play? How will the playcalling be for him and who will be out there with him? Will QB2 be Darnold or Trey? If it's Darnold what will the playcalling be like?
As far as I know, Kyle will probably want Brock to play a series or two in that 2nd preseaon game -- at most, so that he can get ready for the all important 3rd preseason game. Personally,
I'd rather have Trey play all the snaps vs Brock. Brock will play one half in the 3rd preseason game. No need to potentially get him in danger of some stupid preseason injury if you can help it. Kyle's offense is
*still* going to suck on opening day, just as it always does. It's not till later in the season that the offense starts rounding into playoff shape. So whether Brock plays in the preseason or not, it won't make a big difference on opening day. Oline will suck, QB will suck, Wr's will suck. If we're lucky against the steelers - we might win the game.