Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Even I think the criticism of lance in here is too harsh. I also think some.posters have an unnatural infatuation with him based on what he's accomplished for the team so far.

Interested in how this QB2 plays out. Darnold gives a good bar to clear, in my mind. If TL clears it, he's probably looking better than he ever has, and improved. I don't think the 2022 Lance was on the Darnold level. So he has to show improvement here to get the spot.

Not a very high bar imo. So if Trey can't beat out Darnold for #2 atleast than John and Kyle really screwed the pooch on that one.

It's a pretty high bar. Sam put up good numbers last season, in a dumpster fire team that was selling anything that could be sold. 55 starts to 4 is a big experience gap, that TL will have to overcome. KS and JL are putting an obstacle in the way of TL, and its a good thing. It's motivation, to elevate his game. Last year we kinda handed it to him. This year is a different tactic. So we will see how he responds here, in Aug, a very critical month.

Solid numbers last season? He had 1 or 2 good games for sure and cut down on the TO's but his body of work over the course of his NFL career and where he was drafted makes him a bust. If Trey can't out compete Darnold for the #2 spot than again, Kyle and John made a really poor decision in trading up and drafting him.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Solid numbers last season? He had 1 or 2 good games for sure and cut down on the TO's but his body of work over the course of his NFL career and where he was drafted makes him a bust. If Trey can't out compete Darnold for the #2 spot than again, Kyle and John made a really poor decision in trading up and drafting him.

The #2 QB gig in SF is key, as the roster is loaded, and we often need to play the #2 QB.

Originally posted by genus49:
I agree that Brock executed the offense better and produced better results. I'm not stupid.

However my biggest thing in this is I want the team to have as much information as possible when it comes to Brock and Trey.

8 games vs 4 games. One is more proven than the other but neither is enough proof at least for me.

I think Brock showed better play as a rookie than Jimmy G, both in terms of mobility and in decision making but a part of me has PTSD from when Jimmy came in went 5-0 and made our offense looks unstoppable even making the #1 defense that year in the Jags(how crazy it is to type that?) look foolish. I think we all recall how next season and the rest of Jimmy's career here went right?

There has been a clear improvement from Trey. Not only from the mechanics standpoint but also his ability to run the offense.

So I do want to see what Trey can do with the same guys as Brock so the team can make the best evaluation possible. The team hasn't had a top tier franchise QB in such a long time. We have to get this right(and to be fair none of these QBs may be that guy anyways) we'll have to wait and see.

I do wish that the team would make a strong stance on Trey. Sure he may not be your QB1 but don't let the guy get shredded in the media. Even if they are looking to trade him, letting that type of information ferment out there isn't good for anyone.

Agreed. I feel like they pooched this pick and its not the kids fault.

I am also terrified Pudy has a setback or gets hurt and then I'll be more upset because it ends up back at getting Lance experience and they seem to not care.

When we were thinking Purdy would need some more time I thought it was actually lemonade because it was a solid way to get a look at Lance for 3-4 games while assuring Purdy was healed if Lance looked terrible etc.

Trey will be the what if in many minds. If they trade him and he excels....

With the 49ers luck the last 25 years....Purdy plateaus to a decent player but not a championship qb. Now Trey has sat for years and missed on his development as well if he even wants to be around etc.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
So we agree Brock is far better than Trey.

The problem with your take is Trey is competing with Darnold at QB2. If Kyle is still high on Trey, Trey would be QB2 (take all of QB1 reps when Brock is resting) and Kyle wouldn't have give so many reps to Allen and Darnold.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Even I think the criticism of lance in here is too harsh. I also think some.posters have an unnatural infatuation with him based on what he's accomplished for the team so far.

Interested in how this QB2 plays out. Darnold gives a good bar to clear, in my mind. If TL clears it, he's probably looking better than he ever has, and improved. I don't think the 2022 Lance was on the Darnold level. So he has to show improvement here to get the spot.

Not a very high bar imo. So if Trey can't beat out Darnold for #2 atleast than John and Kyle really screwed the pooch on that one.

Exactly good thoughts..

I am basically bewildered by this. They trade up a ton to snag a raw product at 3. Almost everyone understood the move. It could work, it might not, but its a franchise qb you swing for the fences for move etc.

He got hurt. it happens. Purdy looks like a gem of a 7th rounder. I get it, but why wouldn't Trey be the automatic 2 right now and give him as much reps as possible? I understand wanting as many QB as possible after last season, but this doesn't instill confidence.

Trey is throwing against the 2nd team squad, and that should help him in terms of completions and confidence. If Trey was throwing against the starters, he may not have as much success and his confidence might just tank. Keep in mind also, on Brock's days off, Trey will throw with the one's. I think Sam is there to push Trey to be more aggressive. In previous years, players like Fred had to force Trey to throw more aggressive passes to develop those accuracy skills. There is a reason he didn't throw a lot of interceptions in college. He's a conservative thrower. Kyle likes that, but at the same time, if there is a pay to be made, Trey has to be aggressive and take it. Again, I think Trey's made the team already, and I think Trey sharing team two reps with Sam is just having Sam compete with Allen for the QB3 spot, to make sure we have a good QB3. We'll most likely carry 3 QB's and Allen, unless he plays lights out, will be on the practice squad or be traded to a needy team before cutdown day.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by eric_anthony:
I mean he technically has the highest completion percentage in camp thus far. Maioocco and Lombardi both posted the stats. Yes Brock has played against the 1's in every practice but Trey played against them twice so far and did real good. So he's taken major steps in TC. People just wanna focus on him missing some short throws.

Not all completions are the same. Case in point, I believe Trey's best day the other day there was a cli of all the QBs just warming up throwing on air and they should essentially 2 passes for each guy during that clip. Both of Treys was completed. But to the Best of my recollection, the receiver little had to stop and fall to ground to catch one and the other one forced the guy to do a pirouette to catch it.

So these numbers are looking good but without actually seeing these passes...

Again I only state that to say not all completions are are the same. Clearly Trey has took a step in the right direction. You can tell by the everyone's comments. COMPLETELY different from last year when you could tell guys were trying not to say the wrong thing

lol this is so lame.

First of all the completions are only charted during 11 on 11 by most people. Some list 7 on 7. Nobody tracks warmup throws except people looking for something to complain about.

But you're right not all completions are the same. All QBs missed throws whether in warmups or practice. I assure you the throws going to equipment guys are not the throws to hang your analysis on. But I'm not surprised at all that you're out there doing it.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
So we agree Brock is far better than Trey.

The problem with your take is Trey is competing with Darnold at QB2. If Kyle is still high on Trey, Trey would be QB2 (take all of QB1 reps when Brock is resting) and Kyle wouldn't have give so many reps to Allen and Darnold.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Even I think the criticism of lance in here is too harsh. I also think some.posters have an unnatural infatuation with him based on what he's accomplished for the team so far.

Interested in how this QB2 plays out. Darnold gives a good bar to clear, in my mind. If TL clears it, he's probably looking better than he ever has, and improved. I don't think the 2022 Lance was on the Darnold level. So he has to show improvement here to get the spot.

Not a very high bar imo. So if Trey can't beat out Darnold for #2 atleast than John and Kyle really screwed the pooch on that one.

Exactly good thoughts..

I am basically bewildered by this. They trade up a ton to snag a raw product at 3. Almost everyone understood the move. It could work, it might not, but its a franchise qb you swing for the fences for move etc.

He got hurt. it happens. Purdy looks like a gem of a 7th rounder. I get it, but why wouldn't Trey be the automatic 2 right now and give him as much reps as possible? I understand wanting as many QB as possible after last season, but this doesn't instill confidence.

Trey is throwing against the 2nd team squad, and that should help him in terms of completions and confidence. If Trey was throwing against the starters, he may not have as much success and his confidence might just tank. Keep in mind also, on Brock's days off, Trey will throw with the one's. I think Sam is there to push Trey to be more aggressive. In previous years, players like Fred had to force Trey to throw more aggressive passes to develop those accuracy skills. There is a reason he didn't throw a lot of interceptions in college. He's a conservative thrower. Kyle likes that, but at the same time, if there is a pay to be made, Trey has to be aggressive and take it. Again, I think Trey's made the team already, and I think Trey sharing team two reps with Sam is just having Sam compete with Allen for the QB3 spot, to make sure we have a good QB3. We'll most likely carry 3 QB's and Allen, unless he plays lights out, will be on the practice squad or be traded to a needy team before cutdown day.

He was throwing against the 1's on Sunday when he had his best day of camp.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Exactly good thoughts..

I am basically bewildered by this. They trade up a ton to snag a raw product at 3. Almost everyone understood the move. It could work, it might not, but its a franchise qb you swing for the fences for move etc.

He got hurt. it happens. Purdy looks like a gem of a 7th rounder. I get it, but why wouldn't Trey be the automatic 2 right now and give him as much reps as possible? I understand wanting as many QB as possible after last season, but this doesn't instill confidence.

It's about motivation, the clock is ticking, on his rook deal and therefore his time here, unless he produces and shows utility. They want to create an environment, where he needs more than a pulse, to get the QB2. We should view this as a good thing. If Sam is better, we get a better QB2, than what TL would offer. If TL is better than Sam, he probably worked to get to that point, so we elevated his game, by challenging him with this competition. Either way, the team wins.

It's not about instilling confidence, it's about seeing how TL responds to the first real depth chart comp. If he can't handle a Sam Darnold comp, how is he supposed to handle some of the better NFL defenses? We are challenging him, to grow.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
So we agree Brock is far better than Trey.

The problem with your take is Trey is competing with Darnold at QB2. If Kyle is still high on Trey, Trey would be QB2 (take all of QB1 reps when Brock is resting) and Kyle wouldn't have give so many reps to Allen and Darnold.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Even I think the criticism of lance in here is too harsh. I also think some.posters have an unnatural infatuation with him based on what he's accomplished for the team so far.

Interested in how this QB2 plays out. Darnold gives a good bar to clear, in my mind. If TL clears it, he's probably looking better than he ever has, and improved. I don't think the 2022 Lance was on the Darnold level. So he has to show improvement here to get the spot.

Not a very high bar imo. So if Trey can't beat out Darnold for #2 atleast than John and Kyle really screwed the pooch on that one.

Exactly good thoughts..

I am basically bewildered by this. They trade up a ton to snag a raw product at 3. Almost everyone understood the move. It could work, it might not, but its a franchise qb you swing for the fences for move etc.

He got hurt. it happens. Purdy looks like a gem of a 7th rounder. I get it, but why wouldn't Trey be the automatic 2 right now and give him as much reps as possible? I understand wanting as many QB as possible after last season, but this doesn't instill confidence.

Trey is throwing against the 2nd team squad, and that should help him in terms of completions and confidence. If Trey was throwing against the starters, he may not have as much success and his confidence might just tank. Keep in mind also, on Brock's days off, Trey will throw with the one's. I think Sam is there to push Trey to be more aggressive. In previous years, players like Fred had to force Trey to throw more aggressive passes to develop those accuracy skills. There is a reason he didn't throw a lot of interceptions in college. He's a conservative thrower. Kyle likes that, but at the same time, if there is a pay to be made, Trey has to be aggressive and take it. Again, I think Trey's made the team already, and I think Trey sharing team two reps with Sam is just having Sam compete with Allen for the QB3 spot, to make sure we have a good QB3. We'll most likely carry 3 QB's and Allen, unless he plays lights out, will be on the practice squad or be traded to a needy team before cutdown day.

He was throwing against the 1's on Sunday when he had his best day of camp.

He's not a complete Kyle QB until he nails down those checkdown passes. He will. He just needs more reps. He has the arm, and the work ethic, and the processor to get it done.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
So we agree Brock is far better than Trey.

The problem with your take is Trey is competing with Darnold at QB2. If Kyle is still high on Trey, Trey would be QB2 (take all of QB1 reps when Brock is resting) and Kyle wouldn't have give so many reps to Allen and Darnold.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Even I think the criticism of lance in here is too harsh. I also think some.posters have an unnatural infatuation with him based on what he's accomplished for the team so far.

Interested in how this QB2 plays out. Darnold gives a good bar to clear, in my mind. If TL clears it, he's probably looking better than he ever has, and improved. I don't think the 2022 Lance was on the Darnold level. So he has to show improvement here to get the spot.

Not a very high bar imo. So if Trey can't beat out Darnold for #2 atleast than John and Kyle really screwed the pooch on that one.

Exactly good thoughts..

I am basically bewildered by this. They trade up a ton to snag a raw product at 3. Almost everyone understood the move. It could work, it might not, but its a franchise qb you swing for the fences for move etc.

He got hurt. it happens. Purdy looks like a gem of a 7th rounder. I get it, but why wouldn't Trey be the automatic 2 right now and give him as much reps as possible? I understand wanting as many QB as possible after last season, but this doesn't instill confidence.

Trey is throwing against the 2nd team squad, and that should help him in terms of completions and confidence. If Trey was throwing against the starters, he may not have as much success and his confidence might just tank. Keep in mind also, on Brock's days off, Trey will throw with the one's. I think Sam is there to push Trey to be more aggressive. In previous years, players like Fred had to force Trey to throw more aggressive passes to develop those accuracy skills. There is a reason he didn't throw a lot of interceptions in college. He's a conservative thrower. Kyle likes that, but at the same time, if there is a pay to be made, Trey has to be aggressive and take it. Again, I think Trey's made the team already, and I think Trey sharing team two reps with Sam is just having Sam compete with Allen for the QB3 spot, to make sure we have a good QB3. We'll most likely carry 3 QB's and Allen, unless he plays lights out, will be on the practice squad or be traded to a needy team before cutdown day.

He was throwing against the 1's on Sunday when he had his best day of camp.

Monday was his best day I believe and he was throwing to backups but as mentioned before 49ers rotate guys anyways so hard to say who is really throwing against the best while playing with the best.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
So we agree Brock is far better than Trey.

The problem with your take is Trey is competing with Darnold at QB2. If Kyle is still high on Trey, Trey would be QB2 (take all of QB1 reps when Brock is resting) and Kyle wouldn't have give so many reps to Allen and Darnold.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Even I think the criticism of lance in here is too harsh. I also think some.posters have an unnatural infatuation with him based on what he's accomplished for the team so far.

Interested in how this QB2 plays out. Darnold gives a good bar to clear, in my mind. If TL clears it, he's probably looking better than he ever has, and improved. I don't think the 2022 Lance was on the Darnold level. So he has to show improvement here to get the spot.

Not a very high bar imo. So if Trey can't beat out Darnold for #2 atleast than John and Kyle really screwed the pooch on that one.

Exactly good thoughts..

I am basically bewildered by this. They trade up a ton to snag a raw product at 3. Almost everyone understood the move. It could work, it might not, but its a franchise qb you swing for the fences for move etc.

He got hurt. it happens. Purdy looks like a gem of a 7th rounder. I get it, but why wouldn't Trey be the automatic 2 right now and give him as much reps as possible? I understand wanting as many QB as possible after last season, but this doesn't instill confidence.

Trey is throwing against the 2nd team squad, and that should help him in terms of completions and confidence. If Trey was throwing against the starters, he may not have as much success and his confidence might just tank. Keep in mind also, on Brock's days off, Trey will throw with the one's. I think Sam is there to push Trey to be more aggressive. In previous years, players like Fred had to force Trey to throw more aggressive passes to develop those accuracy skills. There is a reason he didn't throw a lot of interceptions in college. He's a conservative thrower. Kyle likes that, but at the same time, if there is a pay to be made, Trey has to be aggressive and take it. Again, I think Trey's made the team already, and I think Trey sharing team two reps with Sam is just having Sam compete with Allen for the QB3 spot, to make sure we have a good QB3. We'll most likely carry 3 QB's and Allen, unless he plays lights out, will be on the practice squad or be traded to a needy team before cutdown day.

He was throwing against the 1's on Sunday when he had his best day of camp.

Monday was his best day I believe and he was throwing to backups but as mentioned before 49ers rotate guys anyways so hard to say who is really throwing against the best while playing with the best.

I am pretty sure it was Sunday the first day of padded practices. He has actually put together 3 straight solid practices since the pads have come on though.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Even I think the criticism of lance in here is too harsh. I also think some.posters have an unnatural infatuation with him based on what he's accomplished for the team so far.

Interested in how this QB2 plays out. Darnold gives a good bar to clear, in my mind. If TL clears it, he's probably looking better than he ever has, and improved. I don't think the 2022 Lance was on the Darnold level. So he has to show improvement here to get the spot.

You really think Lance and Darnold are competing for QB2. Lol, you need to stay off twitter.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by genus49:
I agree that Brock executed the offense better and produced better results. I'm not stupid.

However my biggest thing in this is I want the team to have as much information as possible when it comes to Brock and Trey.

8 games vs 4 games. One is more proven than the other but neither is enough proof at least for me.

I think Brock showed better play as a rookie than Jimmy G, both in terms of mobility and in decision making but a part of me has PTSD from when Jimmy came in went 5-0 and made our offense looks unstoppable even making the #1 defense that year in the Jags(how crazy it is to type that?) look foolish. I think we all recall how next season and the rest of Jimmy's career here went right?

There has been a clear improvement from Trey. Not only from the mechanics standpoint but also his ability to run the offense.

So I do want to see what Trey can do with the same guys as Brock so the team can make the best evaluation possible. The team hasn't had a top tier franchise QB in such a long time. We have to get this right(and to be fair none of these QBs may be that guy anyways) we'll have to wait and see.

I do wish that the team would make a strong stance on Trey. Sure he may not be your QB1 but don't let the guy get shredded in the media. Even if they are looking to trade him, letting that type of information ferment out there isn't good for anyone.

I am also terrified Pudy has a setback or gets hurt and then I'll be more upset because it ends up back at getting Lance experience and they seem to not care.

Isnt this somewhat inevitable? If BP can string together 8 more wins in a row I will be very shocked.
So really anything less than that is somewhat of a "setback". Expectations need to be realistic.
If he goes 6-2 will the fans be content?
if he goes 5-3 will the fans be out for blood?

Whats the real world expectation here?

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
So we agree Brock is far better than Trey.

The problem with your take is Trey is competing with Darnold at QB2. If Kyle is still high on Trey, Trey would be QB2 (take all of QB1 reps when Brock is resting) and Kyle wouldn't have give so many reps to Allen and Darnold.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Even I think the criticism of lance in here is too harsh. I also think some.posters have an unnatural infatuation with him based on what he's accomplished for the team so far.

Interested in how this QB2 plays out. Darnold gives a good bar to clear, in my mind. If TL clears it, he's probably looking better than he ever has, and improved. I don't think the 2022 Lance was on the Darnold level. So he has to show improvement here to get the spot.

Not a very high bar imo. So if Trey can't beat out Darnold for #2 atleast than John and Kyle really screwed the pooch on that one.

Exactly good thoughts..

I am basically bewildered by this. They trade up a ton to snag a raw product at 3. Almost everyone understood the move. It could work, it might not, but its a franchise qb you swing for the fences for move etc.

He got hurt. it happens. Purdy looks like a gem of a 7th rounder. I get it, but why wouldn't Trey be the automatic 2 right now and give him as much reps as possible? I understand wanting as many QB as possible after last season, but this doesn't instill confidence.

Trey is throwing against the 2nd team squad, and that should help him in terms of completions and confidence. If Trey was throwing against the starters, he may not have as much success and his confidence might just tank. Keep in mind also, on Brock's days off, Trey will throw with the one's. I think Sam is there to push Trey to be more aggressive. In previous years, players like Fred had to force Trey to throw more aggressive passes to develop those accuracy skills. There is a reason he didn't throw a lot of interceptions in college. He's a conservative thrower. Kyle likes that, but at the same time, if there is a pay to be made, Trey has to be aggressive and take it. Again, I think Trey's made the team already, and I think Trey sharing team two reps with Sam is just having Sam compete with Allen for the QB3 spot, to make sure we have a good QB3. We'll most likely carry 3 QB's and Allen, unless he plays lights out, will be on the practice squad or be traded to a needy team before cutdown day.

He was throwing against the 1's on Sunday when he had his best day of camp.

Monday was his best day I believe and he was throwing to backups but as mentioned before 49ers rotate guys anyways so hard to say who is really throwing against the best while playing with the best.

I am pretty sure it was Sunday the first day of padded practices. He has actually put together 3 straight solid practices since the pads have come on though.

First day of pads was Monday. We're arguing minutia here. He's had a good streak of practices but the best one by all accounts was Mondays.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
So we agree Brock is far better than Trey.

The problem with your take is Trey is competing with Darnold at QB2. If Kyle is still high on Trey, Trey would be QB2 (take all of QB1 reps when Brock is resting) and Kyle wouldn't have give so many reps to Allen and Darnold.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Even I think the criticism of lance in here is too harsh. I also think some.posters have an unnatural infatuation with him based on what he's accomplished for the team so far.

Interested in how this QB2 plays out. Darnold gives a good bar to clear, in my mind. If TL clears it, he's probably looking better than he ever has, and improved. I don't think the 2022 Lance was on the Darnold level. So he has to show improvement here to get the spot.

Not a very high bar imo. So if Trey can't beat out Darnold for #2 atleast than John and Kyle really screwed the pooch on that one.

Exactly good thoughts..

I am basically bewildered by this. They trade up a ton to snag a raw product at 3. Almost everyone understood the move. It could work, it might not, but its a franchise qb you swing for the fences for move etc.

He got hurt. it happens. Purdy looks like a gem of a 7th rounder. I get it, but why wouldn't Trey be the automatic 2 right now and give him as much reps as possible? I understand wanting as many QB as possible after last season, but this doesn't instill confidence.

Trey is throwing against the 2nd team squad, and that should help him in terms of completions and confidence. If Trey was throwing against the starters, he may not have as much success and his confidence might just tank. Keep in mind also, on Brock's days off, Trey will throw with the one's. I think Sam is there to push Trey to be more aggressive. In previous years, players like Fred had to force Trey to throw more aggressive passes to develop those accuracy skills. There is a reason he didn't throw a lot of interceptions in college. He's a conservative thrower. Kyle likes that, but at the same time, if there is a pay to be made, Trey has to be aggressive and take it. Again, I think Trey's made the team already, and I think Trey sharing team two reps with Sam is just having Sam compete with Allen for the QB3 spot, to make sure we have a good QB3. We'll most likely carry 3 QB's and Allen, unless he plays lights out, will be on the practice squad or be traded to a needy team before cutdown day.

Great point and I am sure there is truth to it, but I would say if Lance is that fragile to compete with the 1's than he isn't the one.

Originally posted by NDSU:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by genus49:
I agree that Brock executed the offense better and produced better results. I'm not stupid.

However my biggest thing in this is I want the team to have as much information as possible when it comes to Brock and Trey.

8 games vs 4 games. One is more proven than the other but neither is enough proof at least for me.

I think Brock showed better play as a rookie than Jimmy G, both in terms of mobility and in decision making but a part of me has PTSD from when Jimmy came in went 5-0 and made our offense looks unstoppable even making the #1 defense that year in the Jags(how crazy it is to type that?) look foolish. I think we all recall how next season and the rest of Jimmy's career here went right?

There has been a clear improvement from Trey. Not only from the mechanics standpoint but also his ability to run the offense.

So I do want to see what Trey can do with the same guys as Brock so the team can make the best evaluation possible. The team hasn't had a top tier franchise QB in such a long time. We have to get this right(and to be fair none of these QBs may be that guy anyways) we'll have to wait and see.

I do wish that the team would make a strong stance on Trey. Sure he may not be your QB1 but don't let the guy get shredded in the media. Even if they are looking to trade him, letting that type of information ferment out there isn't good for anyone.

I am also terrified Pudy has a setback or gets hurt and then I'll be more upset because it ends up back at getting Lance experience and they seem to not care.

Isnt this somewhat inevitable? If BP can string together 8 more wins in a row I will be very shocked.
So really anything less than that is somewhat of a "setback". Expectations need to be realistic.
If he goes 6-2 will the fans be content?
if he goes 5-3 will the fans be out for blood?

Whats the real world expectation here?

I just said this in the Purdy thread. With this offense's track record it would be a miracle for Purdy to play all 17 games.

Expectations around here are Purdy or Lance rips their faces off to reveal they are Montana and Young reincarnated