Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
And had one one of the highest winning percentages a 9er QB ever had.

QBs don't have winning percentages tho. Maybe you mean winning percentage as a starter?

Then why do we care who starts?

Different subject altogether. Simply correcting your gaffe so that narrative never leaves the ground.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by DrippinGoldnRed805:
cant wait til we play a preseason game only that will tell us how far Trey Lance has come along let's go Trey prove them Haters wrong carry that mentality make them respect you by your playing skills will do the talking

Trey Lance could win all preseason games!!! Guess how many of them would matter??

I'm wondering if this is sarcasm, my meter is definitely broken.

I don't think the OP referred to (ore even cares) whether we win or lose the game PS games.

But he's using Preseason......PRESEASON to shut up the haters.

even worse, is using 2nd team stats when he is practicing against 2nd/3rd teams scrubs on defense

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
And had one one of the highest winning percentages a 9er QB ever had.

QBs don't have winning percentages tho. Maybe you mean winning percentage as a starter?

Then why do we care who starts?

Different subject altogether. Simply correcting your gaffe so that narrative never leaves the ground.

What I said is factual. Nice typical non-answer though.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
And had one one of the highest winning percentages a 9er QB ever had.

QBs don't have winning percentages tho. Maybe you mean winning percentage as a starter?

Then why do we care who starts?

Different subject altogether. Simply correcting your gaffe so that narrative never leaves the ground.

What I said is factual. Nice typical non-answer though.

What did you say that was factual? We "caring" who starts is not a factual statement,....nor is saying ANY QB has a winning percentage.

Maybe you meant winning percentage as a starting QB,....but the truth sounds alot more boring, right?

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
All you have to care about is who Shanahan believes is the best qb. And there is zero doubt in my mind that Shanahan prefers Brock over trey. By a mile.

He also some weird fetish for darnold.

Since when did you care about why Kyle thinks? You've been s**tting on him for years.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
I wasn't talking about just you, though you are in that group. I'll address you directly if I have a bone to pick or an argument to make. I actually am not interested in calling people out in that fashion. I also don't think you're as good an example of what I'm talking about either on this board, or definitely a place like Twitter.

You're absolutely dreaming if you think there's going to be equal coverage, slack, or credit, given to players who have different standing. You'd do yourself a huge favor, in my opinion, if you stop being concerned with narratives and agendas you think exist and be a little more open to opinions that differentiate from your own. One is the direct cause of the other. Again, just my opinion. This s**t isn't personal. I appreciate your passion regardless, lol.

Well here is my thing. If you arent going to treat all QBs equally in terms of coverage, slack, credit, etc. then shouldnt it be logical to give the slack and excuses to the young guy? An overwhelming majority of the people in this thread who are overly harsh on Trey are the same people who made excuse after excuse for Jimmy. If you dont want to treat them all the same, fine! But give the slack to the guy with 4 career starts, not the 9 year veteran who was in the system for 5 years.

I am not sure that is how it works in real life.

It is about expectation and accomplishment.

Expectation: By nature, a player with higher expectations because of where the player was drafted, or the one with expensive contract is going to face harsher criticism.

Accomplishment: If a proven player had one bad practice, he is more likely to get a pass because of his accomplishment in the playoff, or in the regular season. Who cares what he did in practice. Most fans won't be too concern until the player struggled in the regular season game.

And then you are comparing and mixing two very different players. Jimmy G is an accomplished player. He has been playing at the maybe the top 15 QB in the NFL for a few seasons. And then you have Trey Lance who has accomplished absolutely nothing in the NFL. Fans have high expectations for both Jimmy G and Trey Lance, one due to an expensive contract, and the other due to where he was picked. When you say give the slack to the young guys, well we are not talking about the same level of play, not even close. There shouldn't be a comparison between the two.

A better comparison is between Purdy, Trey, and Darnold.

Purdy is already a much more accomplished player than the other two, and Niners fans have a much lower expectations for Darnold.

So at the end of the day, SmokyJoe is correct. You're absolutely dreaming if you think there's going to be equal coverage, slack, or credit, given to players who have different standings.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Furlow:
Someone is trying to trade for Trey and hoping to knock his value down a bit lol.

Apparently Mike Silver reported the 49ers weren't offered more than a 5th round pick for him. Mike Silver obviously persona non grata atm though, lol.

Whose dick is Sliver sucking to get all this info?

Originally posted by random49er:
What did you say that was factual? We "caring" who starts is not a factual statement,....nor is saying ANY QB has a winning percentage.

Maybe you meant winning percentage as a starting QB,....but the truth sounds alot more boring, right?

What is the practical difference in terms of the point he's making? This is a silly semantical argument where absolutely everyone understands what he was saying.

In terms of the argument itself, I definitely think Jimmy is overrated by some because of the team's success, but this is just pointless*

who cares about the video showing TL throwing a duck overthrow.... what it demonstrates that when he is not set perfect to throw the ball he is going to revert to his old self in the dirt ducks

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by random49er:
What did you say that was factual? We "caring" who starts is not a factual statement,....nor is saying ANY QB has a winning percentage.

Maybe you meant winning percentage as a starting QB,....but the truth sounds alot more boring, right?

What is the practical difference in terms of the point he's making? This is a silly semantical argument where absolutely everyone understands what he was saying.

In terms of the argument itself, I definitely think Jimmy is overrated by some because of the team's success, but this is just silly.

It's flat out stupid. Not him but whatever point he's trying to make.

Brock right now is the #1 because he gives us a legit shot to win a lot of games. If Trey somehow supercedes him, that means Trey gives us the best shot to win a lot of games. Same fur Darnold. It's a very simple concept lol.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Whose dick is Sliver sucking to get all this info?

Made a couple phone calls. This isn't national security reporting, lol.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
It's flat out stupid. Not him but whatever point he's trying to make.

Brock right now is the #1 because he gives us a legit shot to win a lot of games. If Trey somehow supercedes him, that means Trey gives us the best shot to win a lot of games. Same fur Darnold. It's a very simple concept lol.

Right and I'll add:

If Purdy and Lance both have a bad day in practice, many fans are going to be more willing to give Purdy a pass because he's actually played really well when it mattered (and also because Purdy has less at stake in camp).

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I think to the extent you produce, you earn slack.

Naah. Kid hasn't really played yet. This is your "out" to being overly-critical of young players you pick and choose,...but given the context of the post you were replying to, it doesn't have an ounce a reasonability in it.

Who honestly cares what's someone's reason for liking one player vs another.

I've repeatedly stated that I don't care if fans don't believe in Lance, or any 49ers QB for that matter.

Again, what bothers me is pretending you value certain things then changing your mind with another QB. If QB wins are more important than evaluating a QBs ability, there's nothing wrong with that. Just don't be surprised when people use that logic against you.

The other thing is making BS claims about a QB without evidence. I expressed how stupid it was to criticize Jimmy smiling on the sidelines, just like how it was dumb to speculate what Trey's emojis represented on his Instagram this offseason.

From an article by Matt Maiocco about today's practice.

Lance looks sharper during his first week of training camp than he did at any point in his first two summers with the 49ers. "He's throwing the football a lot better," 49ers general manager John Lynch said of Lance before the practice session. "His base is better. Some of his mechanics are better. Those things are showing up on the field. So I'm not just proud of him for his attitude, his leadership, his resiliency. I'm proud for what I'm seeing out there."

Which is why he didn't start in his first year and was only starting last year by virtue of his draft position. Glad he is finally getting it together and showing what he is capable of but lets not pretend that he was "ready to play" when he first came into the league, as some have professed.

Originally posted by 49ers81:
From an article by Matt Maiocco about today's practice.

Lance looks sharper during his first week of training camp than he did at any point in his first two summers with the 49ers. "He's throwing the football a lot better," 49ers general manager John Lynch said of Lance before the practice session. "His base is better. Some of his mechanics are better. Those things are showing up on the field. So I'm not just proud of him for his attitude, his leadership, his resiliency. I'm proud for what I'm seeing out there."

Which is why he didn't start in his first year and was only starting last year by virtue of his draft position. Glad he is finally getting it together and showing what he is capable of but lets not pretend that he was "ready to play" when he first came into the league, as some have professed.

that's good to hear, hopefully he starts completing his easy checkdowns