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Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Joe Burrow carted off the field after a non contact calf injury. He has Nick Bosa's agent, and is also looking for a record setting contract.

He should have been spectating until he got paid. Only QB that is worth what he is paid is Pat Mahomes. The rest of them with the mega deals are overpaid!

Another reason we should keep our QB room as strong as possible. Freak s**t like this happens on a regular basis, and we have the luxury of having 3 capable QBs in our room for less than the chefs QB. Imagine what they'd be if Pat stepped wrong and popped his ACL.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Like Allen, who was their backup the last two years

The problem for them is when you know you have an elite guy at the spot, you rarely invest in a high quality, expensive, backup.

But they shouldn't be panicking unless it's a tear requiring surgery. Might just be a TC/preseason vacation.

Well allen is super cheap and I'm sure we would trade him for a late round pick. He probably gets cut anyway
Originally posted by tankle104:
Well allen is super cheap and I'm sure we would trade him for a late round pick. He probably gets cut anyway

I'd probably just roll with Trevor. He has starting experience and has played decent at times. Def not trading a pick away for Allen.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Well allen is super cheap and I'm sure we would trade him for a late round pick. He probably gets cut anyway

I'd probably just roll with Trevor. He has starting experience and has played decent at times. Def not trading a pick away for Allen.

I think it just depends on the severity of burrows injury. I am trading a pick if it's for a backup to my backup, especially one that I know well and knows the system/team well.

if it's temp, then yeah I'd probably just roll with it.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Like Allen, who was their backup the last two years

The problem for them is when you know you have an elite guy at the spot, you rarely invest in a high quality, expensive, backup.

But they shouldn't be panicking unless it's a tear requiring surgery. Might just be a TC/preseason vacation.

Well allen is super cheap and I'm sure we would trade him for a late round pick. He probably gets cut anyway
JMO, but I think Allen is here to give us the flexibility to deal Trey if an injury presents us with a good enough offer. Not saying this is it, but am saying we're not trading Allen away while they still might want to do that.
Originally posted by BOI49er:
JMO, but I think Allen is here to give us the flexibility to deal Trey if an injury presents us with a good enough offer. Not saying this is it, but am saying we're not trading Allen away while they still might want to do that.

We saw last season and Trey ain't getting traded
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
JMO, but I think Allen is here to give us the flexibility to deal Trey if an injury presents us with a good enough offer. Not saying this is it, but am saying we're not trading Allen away while they still might want to do that.

We saw last season and Trey ain't getting traded

Right, because Kyle and John know that that was their fault, and don't know that the chances a team uses more than two quarterbacks in a whole Season is one in twenty, and that Garoppolo was not particularly injury prone, and forgot that Garoppolo is not here anymore, and that they're wired like fans and not managers.
[ Edited by BOI49er on Jul 27, 2023 at 4:07 PM ]
Only second day and folks jumping to conclusions lol

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Only second day and folks jumping to conclusions lol


This is why I've said all along that I still don't think a trade is out of the realm of possibility, I'm just looking at the teams actions and they've went very far out of their way to make sure Sam & Allen get meaningful snaps to help them learn the offense and get acclimated, at least so far.

I doubt one person would say that the best way to get Lance ready to be the backup or compete for QB1 is to take reps away from him.

I'm not saying it's likely or going to happen, but I think it's clear that they're leaving that door open. Pumping up treys value (really Trey is Doing that himself with the work he's put in, I don't want to take that from him).
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by genus49:
I have a bad feeling Kyle is just dead set to get rid of Trey and honestly that scares me.

It scares me because it's incredibly irrational and dangerous. Potentially because we lucked into Brock the move for Trey can be brushed aside and essentially called even. But how can our evaluation of Trey be so terrible to make such a big move and then not give him the tools to try to turn him into the best version of himself?

The kid is clearly putting in the work to improve but it's borderline malpractice to give Trey that few reps over a 55 game starter in Darnold and friggin Brandon Allen.

This fear, is irrational, as it basically assumes a couple things. One it assumes TL is a world beater, elite QB1 of the future. Two, it assumes KS doesn't know that or care, and wants to bury him on the chart, for no good reason, cuz he is mean I guess?

Both those things, ask yourself if they make sense? If #1 is true, why would KS do the 2nd part?

With the price he paid on TL, he wants to play TL, heck you pay that price, you want to start that guy year 1, day 1. Need compelling reasons, not to. I feel TL will be here, unless he falls to below Darnold or B Allen on the chart. I will ask you this, if in year 3 of the system, he is behind Darnold or B Allen, does he deserve to be on the team?

I see ppl wringing their hands over the TL is a stud and KS doesn't know it, scenario, and that scenario paints KS as a fool, which he isn't.. and paints him as someone who doesn't want to play his guy he spent 3 ones on, which makes zero sense. Bottom line, in the NFL, you need to be able to play. There is no real developmental league, like MLB has with the minors. You gotta be able to help the team win today, not in 5 years, potentially.

I can assure you Lance is a better QB than Brandon Allen and yet today Allen got the same amount of reps as Lance.

Kyle may not be a fool but he's got his own thoughts on things and hasn't always been right with his personnel decisions. Howie Roseman is considered one of the best GMs in the NFL now and he was going to give up on Jalen Hurts who had a lot more film showing what he can do in this league. We know how that turned out.

Perhaps Kyle is rightfully traumatized by what happened last year so he wants to build the best QB room possible but you shouldn't try to hurt the guys who may still give you a chance to win games and go far if something happens to Brock for another Josh Johnson.

Also nothing I said assumes Trey is a world beater elite QB. It's a simple analysis based on what Trey has shown so far in his career and this camp with his work in the offseason. That's enough info to tell me he gives us a better chance to win games than Brandon Allen and I have enough information on Sam Darnold where I believe Trey would be better than him as well. And the scary part is more for Kyle making a big move and then throwing it away before giving it the time it needed.

it's really not that deep.
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by genus49:
I have a bad feeling Kyle is just dead set to get rid of Trey and honestly that scares me.

It scares me because it's incredibly irrational and dangerous. Potentially because we lucked into Brock the move for Trey can be brushed aside and essentially called even. But how can our evaluation of Trey be so terrible to make such a big move and then not give him the tools to try to turn him into the best version of himself?

The kid is clearly putting in the work to improve but it's borderline malpractice to give Trey that few reps over a 55 game starter in Darnold and friggin Brandon Allen.

Because as been said a bazillion times. They didn't make the move for Trey. They made the move for the position. They then decided on Trey. They did that by "believing in what they didn't see and what they believe they would see"

Turning Trey into the best version of himself IMO wouldn't be turning Kyle's offense into the best version of itself. I truly believe they fell in love with Trey the person and not Trey the QB. Which I agree, Trey the person would be leader in the clubhouse as QB1. unfortunately for him, that's not how the games get won.

Stop this crap. For the love of god. Kyle Shanahan is not making a move like that cuz he loves the person but not the tape to go with it.

You guys keep using that quote completely out of context.
Originally posted by genus49:
I can assure you Lance is a better QB than Brandon Allen and yet today Allen got the same amount of reps as Lance.

Kyle may not be a fool but he's got his own thoughts on things and hasn't always been right with his personnel decisions. Howie Roseman is considered one of the best GMs in the NFL now and he was going to give up on Jalen Hurts who had a lot more film showing what he can do in this league. We know how that turned out.

Perhaps Kyle is rightfully traumatized by what happened last year so he wants to build the best QB room possible but you shouldn't try to hurt the guys who may still give you a chance to win games and go far if something happens to Brock for another Josh Johnson.

Also nothing I said assumes Trey is a world beater elite QB. It's a simple analysis based on what Trey has shown so far in his career and this camp with his work in the offseason. That's enough info to tell me he gives us a better chance to win games than Brandon Allen and I have enough information on Sam Darnold where I believe Trey would be better than him as well. And the scary part is more for Kyle making a big move and then throwing it away before giving it the time it needed.

it's really not that deep.

I don't think a trade is going to happen unless we up and give him away.

That said, it's not simply an analysis of Lance vs Allen, and who would be a better emergency option as a 3rd QB. It's whatever you can get for Lance and Allen as an emergency QB vs Lance as an emergency QB.

We could theoretically pick up something to bolster our team with little, or no, risk to the team in the short term.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Only second day and folks jumping to conclusions lol


This is why I've said all along that I still don't think a trade is out of the realm of possibility, I'm just looking at the teams actions and they've went very far out of their way to make sure Sam & Allen get meaningful snaps to help them learn the offense and get acclimated, at least so far.

I doubt one person would say that the best way to get Lance ready to be the backup or compete for QB1 is to take reps away from him.

I'm not saying it's likely or going to happen, but I think it's clear that they're leaving that door open. Pumping up treys value (really Trey is Doing that himself with the work he's put in, I don't want to take that from him).



It's day 2 bro.
Originally posted by eric_anthony:
Originally posted by genus49:
I have a bad feeling Kyle is just dead set to get rid of Trey and honestly that scares me.

It scares me because it's incredibly irrational and dangerous. Potentially because we lucked into Brock the move for Trey can be brushed aside and essentially called even. But how can our evaluation of Trey be so terrible to make such a big move and then not give him the tools to try to turn him into the best version of himself?

The kid is clearly putting in the work to improve but it's borderline malpractice to give Trey that few reps over a 55 game starter in Darnold and friggin Brandon Allen.

Because Kyle doesn't know how to develop a QB. It seemed like he was all in on developing one when he drafted Trey but he got impatient and wasn't willing to help him grow. It's definitely malpractice to give him so few reps when he knows he needs them.
Kyle's job is to win games, not play the guy they drafted high when they have a guy playing so much better. The only thing that the team owes Trey is the money his contract stipulates they owe him. If Kyle thought Trey was the best answer to the QB question, he would be getting starting reps instead of splitting backup reps with a guy like Darnold.
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Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Like Allen, who was their backup the last two years

The problem for them is when you know you have an elite guy at the spot, you rarely invest in a high quality, expensive, backup.

But they shouldn't be panicking unless it's a tear requiring surgery. Might just be a TC/preseason vacation.

Well allen is super cheap and I'm sure we would trade him for a late round pick. He probably gets cut anyway
JMO, but I think Allen is here to give us the flexibility to deal Trey if an injury presents us with a good enough offer. Not saying this is it, but am saying we're not trading Allen away while they still might want to do that.

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