Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by tankle104:
We will actually get a glimpse of Lance before Brock.

Brock threw a lot infront of the staff yesterday, so he will get tomorrow off and play Thursday/Friday.

can't wait to get updates on how Lance/Darnold look.

i still think a qb gets traded - maybe darnold. The team seems to really like Allen.

If one does, it's not going to be Darnold

Originally posted by krizay:
If one does, it's not going to be Darnold

He's the least likely at this point for sure.

QB's don't get moved traditionally as the season approaches. I don't think a trade is going to happen unless it happens very quickly, and I would still doubt it.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by tankle104:
We will actually get a glimpse of Lance before Brock.

Brock threw a lot infront of the staff yesterday, so he will get tomorrow off and play Thursday/Friday.

can't wait to get updates on how Lance/Darnold look.

i still think a qb gets traded - maybe darnold. The team seems to really like Allen.

If one does, it's not going to be Darnold

We will most likely keep Trey & Darnold, IMO- but I do think there is a solid chance someone gets moved. That's a lot of talent and we can't keep all four - we will have to cut one and I can see us tryna get some compensation if we can.

this is just a random guess on my part, no evidence to back it up. Hahaha it's just a feeling I have but it won't happen until end of camp, if it does.

if Lance looks as good as his coach is making him - we aren't trading him. If it's close between allen and darnold, I could see us trading darnold to a team like GB and rockin with Allen. Just depends how camp goes

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by random49er:
It's been pretty clear for awhile now that Lombardi poaches his "hot topic" narratives and ideas from messageboards like here,...then goes and "feeds the wolves" on his page.

I've seen thru this guy for years,...lol. But to each his own.

For sure. All good, he's just doing his research as to what the fanbase is interested in hearing about. Sup David I know you're reading this.

He's for sure reading this place.
1) it's gotta be the most active 49er board
2) we are all brilliant in here, so why wouldn't he. Muhaha I think Cohn reads this place too.

I don't see that chart as a projection of Trey into the future though, I feel like some are viewing it that way. It's in no way telling of future output/potential. I think it just is a snap shot of his few performances regarding a couple metrics.

i don't look at it as "this is what Trey is and will be". There's also context that we know today that can be applied to explain some of it.

i personally find this kind of data interesting. If it was positive, I feel like a lot in here would be singing a different tune. For example, how the RPO game is much better with Trey - that would be like me saying it's a small sample size, we don't really know if it's better with him or not, irrelevant data. Which I also think would be dumb. Just sucks we have such little data with Lance that it's really all we can evaluate with him until camp starts.

Can't wait for camp to start! Really hoping he is eye popping improved, would be badass.

Cohn not only reads this place, he's got a pathetic sock-puppet that he uses to defend himself in the third person. What a loser.

Who is the sock-puppet?

Note: it's not me. I went to college as a physics major/math minor. Cohn can't fade me on deriving special relativity from scratch. Dude is an English major.

https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/profile/190836/

Used to spam post his and his daddy's articles back in the day, and would sometimes show up and defend himself in the third person when people were ragging on him.

What an uninspired username. Should have picked CantGroan.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
He's the least likely at this point for sure.

QB's don't get moved traditionally as the season approaches. I don't think a trade is going to happen unless it happens very quickly, and I would still doubt it.

Agreed, only way I can possibly see a trade happen is if Burrow or Trevor Semien gets hurt and Vincy asks for Allen back.

Only way I see another Treyde is if Tua happens to get another concussion or another serious injury.

Only 2 trade scenarios I can see having anything more than a 1% chance

Originally posted by krizay:
Agreed, only way I can possibly see a trade happen is if Burrow or Trevor Semien gets hurt and Vincy asks for Allen back.

Only way I see another Treyde is if Tua happens to get another concussion or another serious injury.

Only 2 trade scenarios I can see having anything more than a 1% chance

I'll probably get flamed but I really wouldn't expect Trey to be traded to anyone who was involved in this organization when he was selected. Those guys know more, not less.

Originally posted by tankle104:
We will actually get a glimpse of Lance before Brock.

Brock threw a lot infront of the staff yesterday, so he will get tomorrow off and play Thursday/Friday.

can't wait to get updates on how Lance/Darnold look.

i still think a qb gets traded - maybe darnold. The team seems to really like Allen.

I doubt it, after last year. Maybe, but if this is a Super Bowl run, it better be for a top pass rusher or corner. Otherwise we need the assurance at QB.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by tankle104:
We will actually get a glimpse of Lance before Brock.

Brock threw a lot infront of the staff yesterday, so he will get tomorrow off and play Thursday/Friday.

can't wait to get updates on how Lance/Darnold look.

i still think a qb gets traded - maybe darnold. The team seems to really like Allen.

If one does, it's not going to be Darnold

I agree. Don't see many guys who were avail FAs, get traded out, in the same offseason they signed.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
I'll probably get flamed but I really wouldn't expect Trey to be traded to anyone who was involved in this organization when he was selected. Those guys know more, not less.

I kind of agree with you. However, in my scenario it's Mike white and Skylar Thompson as your options. Trey would at least kniw the terminology and id prefer him to Skylar as the season goes on. Plus if it's a Tua concussion he's likely done with MIA so why not take a flyer on TL.

If I told you on draft day two years ago that we would be debating whether the niners would trade either Lance or Sam darnold, you guys would have banned me.

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Purdy about to end his 49er career .

higher ceiling . But Purdys floor is much higher than Lance's floor .

Shouldn't it be about ceilings, not baseline?

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
He's the least likely at this point for sure.

QB's don't get moved traditionally as the season approaches. I don't think a trade is going to happen unless it happens very quickly, and I would still doubt it.

Agreed, only way I can possibly see a trade happen is if Burrow or Trevor Semien gets hurt and Vincy asks for Allen back.

Only way I see another Treyde is if Tua happens to get another concussion or another serious injury.

Only 2 trade scenarios I can see having anything more than a 1% chance

To me if we quickly come to a decision TL is QB3, I could see a trade, to any team that is in the market for a QB of the future. Especially if we view BP as our QB of the future. TL would probably be a QB2 in MIN right now, with a chance of QB1 in 2024, when Cousins is no longer on contract. His salary would make sense in that capacity, seems like an incorrect salary, for QB3 here.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
I'll probably get flamed but I really wouldn't expect Trey to be traded to anyone who was involved in this organization when he was selected. Those guys know more, not less.

I kind of agree with you. However, in my scenario it's Mike white and Skylar Thompson as your options. Trey would at least kniw the terminology and id prefer him to Skylar as the season goes on. Plus if it's a Tua concussion he's likely done with MIA so why not take a flyer on TL.

Mike White is the answer to the question. He played well at times and Trey isn't a substantial enough upgrade (if he's even an upgrade at all) in the short term to justify a trade (that we would also accept).

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Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 4ML:

Trey Lance release looks good and quick ???? #49ers || #FTTB pic.twitter.com/iBBNLtagTf

— Miggy?? (@ItsMiggyV) July 24, 2023

Shocking someone so young could improve. Excited to see all the QBs this off season and into the 2023 yr

Whats shocking is that after all these years in college, two seasons in the Pros he has to work on his release.

Someone doesn't understand football lol.

No its just that I offended the Trey Stans.

No, you just don't really understand it.

Look at Rodgers who had plenty of college games played and check his tape from year one to year 3.

Even Jimmy made some adjustments since his first year with the Pats.

It's something a lot of young QBs are doing now especially, it's an emphasis put on by the coaches now more than ever to have a quick release. Pass rush has gotten better, OLs have gotten worse and one way to counter that besides with play calling is having a QB with a quick release.

Of course you have the QBs who are already great throwers and don't need to make big adjustments. But we all know, coaches / FO included (bc they said it) Trey will be a project.

And not a Trey stan, never was (I wanted Fields from the start). But s**t posts need to be called out lol. I just want to see him play and get a chance. But if it means that Purdy is a full go to go for week 1, then Trey is going to have to wait and he might not get a chance again. Which I'm fine with bc that means Purdy is playing at a high level again and we have our QB.

Rodgers' problem was holding the ball to high on drop, not his release. He also wasn't a top 5 pick. As for Jimmy, I don't remember him trying to tweak his release but because it was fast enough coming outta college, but I think during his second or third year as a 9er IIRC he worked on his throwing motion. Which to the average fans eye still didn't seem to make a difference in his deep ball maybe mid range.

But yah a fan who's been here since 2004 don't know football. Okay you're talking about crap post. Lol

Rodgers has literally talked about how bringing the ball lower and working on different mechanics has improved his release time, made him more accurate, especially his deep ball.

But what does he know, he wasn't a member on a forum since 2004.

The problem I remember with the way he held the ball and why they said it needed changing. Because he was more suspect to fumbling the ball. I don't remember them talking about quickening or improving his release. Going into the draft he was labeled a Tedford QB, same problem David Carr had.

Sure I never played QB, but lets stop with crap post like I don't know football. I'll never say that to anyone on here. We're all diehard football/49ers fans if we're on a message board talking football.

Then don't stay stuff like this, it's simple lol

"Whats shocking is that after all these years in college, two seasons in the Pros he has to work on his release. "

When other QBs are constantly working on mechanics, not just young QBs, but even vets.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
To me if we quickly come to a decision TL is QB3, I could see a trade, to any team that is in the market for a QB of the future. Especially if we view BP as our QB of the future. TL would probably be a QB2 in MIN right now, with a chance of QB1 in 2024, when Cousins is no longer on contract. His salary would make sense in that capacity, seems like an incorrect salary, for QB3 here.

I could see that. I think Washington is a potential spot that makes sense as well.