Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
All indications are that he's an extremely hard worker. There's no real reason to believe this stuff isn't true on some level.

The question would be is it going to translate when there are live bullets flying or is he going to revert to his previous mechanics.

Beyond that he had more issues than his throwing motion and we'll see if he can improve in those areas without real playing experience.

The bolded has always been my thing. It's easy to look good when that's what you're working on.

Is the following a correlation?

Observations from day 1 mini camp

During a redzone seven-on-seven session Lance hit on three of five attempts. All three of Lance's completions resulted in touchdowns, the best coming when he hit Jauan Jennings in the back left corner of the endzone.

Team drills started a bit rough for Lance.

Observations from day 2

The quarterback hit all four of his throws during the opening seven-on-seven period. His best throw of the period came when he found George Kittle deep down the right side.

Things became tougher for Lance when the offensive and defensive lines joined in.

Try siting your sources when posting quotes. It shouldn't be that difficult if you have this stuff saved.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I wonder if this is record territory for top 3 overall picks and fewest starts / games played.

Most likely record territory for top 3 overall in which two additional 1st and 3rd were used.

You may well be correct. It's just a weird situation.

What's weird about it is believing the kid will never start another game in the league for any team and then trying to make up a statistic about it. That's weird.

How many times does it have to be clarified that he was asking about number of starts after 3 seasons (this will be Trey's 3rd)? How about this - can you find any player of any position taken in the top 5 who has started less than 4 games after their first 2 seasons? Other than Jay Berwanger lol.

No you can't. Because it isn't a stat. Especially since his starts this year, which is still completely hypothetical, are being counted into this imaginary stat. Like saying Garoppolo had a shorter Subway career than any other athlete they hired. Funny as hell, but not an actual stat.

Number of starts is a stat.

TL has 4 starts and BP 5 is my understanding. Regular season starts.

Sure, but by adding the caveat that they had to be drafted in the top 3 is not. And the only reason you added that was to screw it. Like I said, Aaron Rodgers would be #1 on that list but for his draft day slide. He was projected as a top 5 pick. So what exactly would your stat tell you? If it were in fact a thing, lol.

Sure. Some caveat is needed. If you just said all QBs, regardless of draft status, it wouldn't make sense, cuz a ton of QBs like a Sudfeld don't ever start or rarely start. The higher up you are selected, the more the investment, probably the more urgency to get that guy on the field. If you revisit Rodgers, and imagine he didn't slide, or SF took Rodgers, then sure he starts a ton, like Alex did, at minimum. My stat tells me that a top 3 pick QB almost universally gets a lot of starts right away. TL probably would have, but he had the injury. Then the emergence of BP. So you need a slew of factors to go against you, to not get a lot of starts, and seemingly that is what is taking place here.

Amazing you had to explain this. Well done though.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I hope this is true but it's off-season. We heard this s**t with Jimmy G also.

Saw Jimmy play on the field as a professional for a substantial portion before he ever suited up here.

Unconcerned one way or another because we still have Brock.

I thought he had 2 starts in New England.

SUBSTANTIAL two starts. Trey's 4 starts aren't enough though.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
All indications are that he's an extremely hard worker. There's no real reason to believe this stuff isn't true on some level.

The question would be is it going to translate when there are live bullets flying or is he going to revert to his previous mechanics.

Beyond that he had more issues than his throwing motion and we'll see if he can improve in those areas without real playing experience.

The bolded has always been my thing. It's easy to look good when that's what you're working on.

Is the following a correlation?

Observations from day 1 mini camp

During a redzone seven-on-seven session Lance hit on three of five attempts. All three of Lance's completions resulted in touchdowns, the best coming when he hit Jauan Jennings in the back left corner of the endzone.

Team drills started a bit rough for Lance.

Observations from day 2

The quarterback hit all four of his throws during the opening seven-on-seven period. His best throw of the period came when he found George Kittle deep down the right side.

Things became tougher for Lance when the offensive and defensive lines joined in.

Try siting your sources when posting quotes. It shouldn't be that difficult if you have this stuff saved.

I said this the other day and didn't get an answer, idk why these guys aren't practicing these throws and drills with at least shoulder pads and helmet during the off-season - that stuff has to have an impact on live drills. Maybe it doesn't, I'm not a QB, I've just always believed in replicating things as close as you can to the real thing.

i think Lance is going to show improvement but I also think there will be times where he looks like his old self, it's just part of the improvement process. It takes a lot of reps to break old habits.

i just view it as we will see some good and bad, but hopefully more good than bad. Ultimately, as the season goes on - much less bad.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I hope this is true but it's off-season. We heard this s**t with Jimmy G also.

Saw Jimmy play on the field as a professional for a substantial portion before he ever suited up here.

Unconcerned one way or another because we still have Brock.

I thought he had 2 starts in New England.

SUBSTANTIAL two starts. Trey's 4 starts aren't enough though.

Makes sense

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I hope this is true but it's off-season. We heard this s**t with Jimmy G also.

Saw Jimmy play on the field as a professional for a substantial portion before he ever suited up here.

Unconcerned one way or another because we still have Brock.

I thought he had 2 starts in New England.

SUBSTANTIAL two starts. Trey's 4 starts aren't enough though.

Could be wrong but maybe he was including preseason

https://youtube.com/shorts/JXfdYjthhtE?feature=share

Kyle told me he was drafting a starter. Standing up next to this kid. I believe him

Originally posted by genus49:
Try siting your sources when posting quotes. It shouldn't be that difficult if you have this stuff saved.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
All indications are that he's an extremely hard worker. There's no real reason to believe this stuff isn't true on some level.

The question would be is it going to translate when there are live bullets flying or is he going to revert to his previous mechanics.

Beyond that he had more issues than his throwing motion and we'll see if he can improve in those areas without real playing experience.

The bolded has always been my thing. It's easy to look good when that's what you're working on.

Is the following a correlation?

Observations from day 1 mini camp

During a redzone seven-on-seven session Lance hit on three of five attempts. All three of Lance's completions resulted in touchdowns, the best coming when he hit Jauan Jennings in the back left corner of the endzone.

Team drills started a bit rough for Lance.

Observations from day 2

The quarterback hit all four of his throws during the opening seven-on-seven period. His best throw of the period came when he found George Kittle deep down the right side.

Things became tougher for Lance when the offensive and defensive lines joined in.

Try siting your sources when posting quotes. It shouldn't be that difficult if you have this stuff saved.

June 6, 2023

The 49ers held their first of two mandatory veteran mini-camp practices Tuesday morning. Here is what stood out.

Trey Lance

This was by far the best Lance has looked during the three offseason practices open to the media. Lance finished the day 9-14 with three touchdowns.

During a redzone seven-on-seven session Lance hit on three of five attempts. All three of Lance's completions resulted in touchdowns, the best coming when he hit Jauan Jennings in the back left corner of the endzone.

Team drills started a bit rough for Lance.

On the first play, Lance dropped back after play action and had rookie Cameron Latu open on a deep over route, but the throw came up short. On the next play, Lance's throw off boot action to Ray Ray McCloud was broken up by cornerback A,J. Parker.

Lance was nearly perfect the rest of the way, connecting on six of his final seven throws.

After a pair of checkdown throws, Lance ripped a deep out to Ray Ray McCloud along the right sideline.

Lance's final three throws of the day were a completion to Brandon Aiyuk on a dig route off play action, a deep in route to Danny Gray which he layered over the underneath linebackers and a throw up the seam to McCloud in front of rookie Ji'Ayir Brown.

https://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/observations-from-day-1-of-49ers-mini-camp/

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Why? Each "observation" is immediately followed by a statement with zero substance. Lance hit all 4 throws, but things became tougher when o and d lines joined? How? What happened? Who was observing?

The articles was posted on the front page of the webzone during that time period. It is not hard for him to find the answers he seeks.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Why? Each "observation" is immediately followed by a statement with zero substance. Lance hit all 4 throws, but things became tougher when o and d lines joined? How? What happened? Who was observing?

The articles was posted on the front page of the webzone during that time period. It is not hard for him to find the answers he seeks.

You never posted a time period. Took me a while to find.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I hope this is true but it's off-season. We heard this s**t with Jimmy G also.

Saw Jimmy play on the field as a professional for a substantial portion before he ever suited up here.

Unconcerned one way or another because we still have Brock.

I thought he had 2 starts in New England.

SUBSTANTIAL two starts. Trey's 4 starts aren't enough though.

Could be wrong but maybe he was including preseason

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
All indications are that he's an extremely hard worker. There's no real reason to believe this stuff isn't true on some level.

The question would be is it going to translate when there are live bullets flying or is he going to revert to his previous mechanics.

Beyond that he had more issues than his throwing motion and we'll see if he can improve in those areas without real playing experience.

The bolded has always been my thing. It's easy to look good when that's what you're working on.

Is the following a correlation?

Observations from day 1 mini camp

During a redzone seven-on-seven session Lance hit on three of five attempts. All three of Lance's completions resulted in touchdowns, the best coming when he hit Jauan Jennings in the back left corner of the endzone.

Team drills started a bit rough for Lance.

Observations from day 2

The quarterback hit all four of his throws during the opening seven-on-seven period. His best throw of the period came when he found George Kittle deep down the right side.

Things became tougher for Lance when the offensive and defensive lines joined in.

Try siting your sources when posting quotes. It shouldn't be that difficult if you have this stuff saved.

June 6, 2023

The 49ers held their first of two mandatory veteran mini-camp practices Tuesday morning. Here is what stood out.

Trey Lance

This was by far the best Lance has looked during the three offseason practices open to the media. Lance finished the day 9-14 with three touchdowns.

During a redzone seven-on-seven session Lance hit on three of five attempts. All three of Lance's completions resulted in touchdowns, the best coming when he hit Jauan Jennings in the back left corner of the endzone.

Team drills started a bit rough for Lance.

On the first play, Lance dropped back after play action and had rookie Cameron Latu open on a deep over route, but the throw came up short. On the next play, Lance's throw off boot action to Ray Ray McCloud was broken up by cornerback A,J. Parker.

Lance was nearly perfect the rest of the way, connecting on six of his final seven throws.

After a pair of checkdown throws, Lance ripped a deep out to Ray Ray McCloud along the right sideline.

Lance's final three throws of the day were a completion to Brandon Aiyuk on a dig route off play action, a deep in route to Danny Gray which he layered over the underneath linebackers and a throw up the seam to McCloud in front of rookie Ji'Ayir Brown.

https://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/observations-from-day-1-of-49ers-mini-camp/

Thank you for doing his work for him. You wonder why he doesn't like to site his sources...cuz somehow(surely a pure coincidence) he left out this line

Lance was nearly perfect the rest of the way, connecting on six of his final seven throws.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Why? Each "observation" is immediately followed by a statement with zero substance. Lance hit all 4 throws, but things became tougher when o and d lines joined? How? What happened? Who was observing?

The articles was posted on the front page of the webzone during that time period. It is not hard for him to find the answers he seeks.

You're quoting them..and clearly cherry picking what you want to quote so you could easily add the link unless you were trying to paint a picture that's better painted without more context.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I hope this is true but it's off-season. We heard this s**t with Jimmy G also.

Saw Jimmy play on the field as a professional for a substantial portion before he ever suited up here.

Unconcerned one way or another because we still have Brock.

I thought he had 2 starts in New England.

SUBSTANTIAL two starts. Trey's 4 starts aren't enough though.

Makes sense

Judging Jimmy after 2 starts or judging Trey after 4 are the exact same thing....and are both stupid.