Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I wonder if this is record territory for top 3 overall picks and fewest starts / games played.

Most likely record territory for top 3 overall in which two additional 1st and 3rd were used.

You may well be correct. It's just a weird situation.

What's weird about it is believing the kid will never start another game in the league for any team and then trying to make up a statistic about it. That's weird.

Are you not reading the posts

I'm on record he starts a career high number of games this season.

So the only reason Aaron Rogers isn't #1 on that list is because he slid on draft day? Weird.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I wonder if this is record territory for top 3 overall picks and fewest starts / games played.

Most likely record territory for top 3 overall in which two additional 1st and 3rd were used.

You may well be correct. It's just a weird situation.

What's weird about it is believing the kid will never start another game in the league for any team and then trying to make up a statistic about it. That's weird.

How many times does it have to be clarified that he was asking about number of starts after 3 seasons (this will be Trey's 3rd)? How about this - can you find any player of any position taken in the top 5 who has started less than 4 games after their first 2 seasons? Other than Jay Berwanger lol.

No you can't. Because it isn't a stat. Especially since his starts this year, which is still completely hypothetical, are being counted into this imaginary stat. Like saying Garoppolo had a shorter Subway career than any other athlete they hired. Funny as hell, but not an actual stat.

Number of starts is a stat.

TL has 4 starts and BP 5 is my understanding. Regular season starts.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I wonder if this is record territory for top 3 overall picks and fewest starts / games played.

Most likely record territory for top 3 overall in which two additional 1st and 3rd were used.

You may well be correct. It's just a weird situation.

What's weird about it is believing the kid will never start another game in the league for any team and then trying to make up a statistic about it. That's weird.

How many times does it have to be clarified that he was asking about number of starts after 3 seasons (this will be Trey's 3rd)? How about this - can you find any player of any position taken in the top 5 who has started less than 4 games after their first 2 seasons? Other than Jay Berwanger lol.

No you can't. Because it isn't a stat. Especially since his starts this year, which is still completely hypothetical, are being counted into this imaginary stat. Like saying Garoppolo had a shorter Subway career than any other athlete they hired. Funny as hell, but not an actual stat.

Number of starts is a stat.

TL has 4 starts and BP 5 is my understanding. Regular season starts.

Sure, but by adding the caveat that they had to be drafted in the top 3 is not. And the only reason you added that was to screw it. Like I said, Aaron Rodgers would be #1 on that list but for his draft day slide. He was projected as a top 5 pick. Statistics are tools that are used to help describe something in detail. So what exactly would your stat describe? If it were in fact a thing, lol.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I wonder if this is record territory for top 3 overall picks and fewest starts / games played.

Most likely record territory for top 3 overall in which two additional 1st and 3rd were used.

You may well be correct. It's just a weird situation.

What's weird about it is believing the kid will never start another game in the league for any team and then trying to make up a statistic about it. That's weird.

How many times does it have to be clarified that he was asking about number of starts after 3 seasons (this will be Trey's 3rd)? How about this - can you find any player of any position taken in the top 5 who has started less than 4 games after their first 2 seasons? Other than Jay Berwanger lol.

No you can't. Because it isn't a stat. Especially since his starts this year, which is still completely hypothetical, are being counted into this imaginary stat. Like saying Garoppolo had a shorter Subway career than any other athlete they hired. Funny as hell, but not an actual stat.

Number of starts is a stat.

TL has 4 starts and BP 5 is my understanding. Regular season starts.

Sure, but by adding the caveat that they had to be drafted in the top 3 is not. And the only reason you added that was to screw it. Like I said, Aaron Rodgers would be #1 on that list but for his draft day slide. He was projected as a top 5 pick. So what exactly would your stat tell you? If it were in fact a thing, lol.

Sure. Some caveat is needed. If you just said all QBs, regardless of draft status, it wouldn't make sense, cuz a ton of QBs like a Sudfeld don't ever start or rarely start. The higher up you are selected, the more the investment, probably the more urgency to get that guy on the field. If you revisit Rodgers, and imagine he didn't slide, or SF took Rodgers, then sure he starts a ton, like Alex did, at minimum. My stat tells me that a top 3 pick QB almost universally gets a lot of starts right away. TL probably would have, but he had the injury. Then the emergence of BP. So you need a slew of factors to go against you, to not get a lot of starts, and seemingly that is what is taking place here.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I wonder if this is record territory for top 3 overall picks and fewest starts / games played.

Most likely record territory for top 3 overall in which two additional 1st and 3rd were used.

You may well be correct. It's just a weird situation.

What's weird about it is believing the kid will never start another game in the league for any team and then trying to make up a statistic about it. That's weird.

How many times does it have to be clarified that he was asking about number of starts after 3 seasons (this will be Trey's 3rd)? How about this - can you find any player of any position taken in the top 5 who has started less than 4 games after their first 2 seasons? Other than Jay Berwanger lol.

No you can't. Because it isn't a stat. Especially since his starts this year, which is still completely hypothetical, are being counted into this imaginary stat. Like saying Garoppolo had a shorter Subway career than any other athlete they hired. Funny as hell, but not an actual stat.

Number of starts is a stat.

TL has 4 starts and BP 5 is my understanding. Regular season starts.

Sure, but by adding the caveat that they had to be drafted in the top 3 is not. And the only reason you added that was to screw it. Like I said, Aaron Rodgers would be #1 on that list but for his draft day slide. He was projected as a top 5 pick. So what exactly would your stat tell you? If it were in fact a thing, lol.

Sure. Some caveat is needed. If you just said all QBs, regardless of draft status, it wouldn't make sense, cuz a ton of QBs like a Sudfeld don't ever start or rarely start. The higher up you are selected, the more the investment, probably the more urgency to get that guy on the field. If you revisit Rodgers, and imagine he didn't slide, or SF took Rodgers, then sure he starts a ton, like Alex did, at minimum. My stat tells me that a top 3 pick QB almost universally gets a lot of starts right away. TL probably would have, but he had the injury. Then the emergence of BP. So you need a slew of factors to go against you, to not get a lot of starts, and seemingly that is what is taking place here.

But if they don't start right away it doesn't mean a damn thing. Because it is determined by many factors, none of which are under the players control.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I wonder if this is record territory for top 3 overall picks and fewest starts / games played.

Most likely record territory for top 3 overall in which two additional 1st and 3rd were used.

You may well be correct. It's just a weird situation.

What's weird about it is believing the kid will never start another game in the league for any team and then trying to make up a statistic about it. That's weird.

How many times does it have to be clarified that he was asking about number of starts after 3 seasons (this will be Trey's 3rd)? How about this - can you find any player of any position taken in the top 5 who has started less than 4 games after their first 2 seasons? Other than Jay Berwanger lol.

No you can't. Because it isn't a stat. Especially since his starts this year, which is still completely hypothetical, are being counted into this imaginary stat. Like saying Garoppolo had a shorter Subway career than any other athlete they hired. Funny as hell, but not an actual stat.

Number of starts is a stat.

TL has 4 starts and BP 5 is my understanding. Regular season starts.

Sure, but by adding the caveat that they had to be drafted in the top 3 is not. And the only reason you added that was to screw it. Like I said, Aaron Rodgers would be #1 on that list but for his draft day slide. He was projected as a top 5 pick. So what exactly would your stat tell you? If it were in fact a thing, lol.

Sure. Some caveat is needed. If you just said all QBs, regardless of draft status, it wouldn't make sense, cuz a ton of QBs like a Sudfeld don't ever start or rarely start. The higher up you are selected, the more the investment, probably the more urgency to get that guy on the field. If you revisit Rodgers, and imagine he didn't slide, or SF took Rodgers, then sure he starts a ton, like Alex did, at minimum. My stat tells me that a top 3 pick QB almost universally gets a lot of starts right away. TL probably would have, but he had the injury. Then the emergence of BP. So you need a slew of factors to go against you, to not get a lot of starts, and seemingly that is what is taking place here.

So just say QBs drafted in the first round. Done. They are all expected to be starters.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I wonder if this is record territory for top 3 overall picks and fewest starts / games played.

Most likely record territory for top 3 overall in which two additional 1st and 3rd were used.

You may well be correct. It's just a weird situation.

What's weird about it is believing the kid will never start another game in the league for any team and then trying to make up a statistic about it. That's weird.

How many times does it have to be clarified that he was asking about number of starts after 3 seasons (this will be Trey's 3rd)? How about this - can you find any player of any position taken in the top 5 who has started less than 4 games after their first 2 seasons? Other than Jay Berwanger lol.

No you can't. Because it isn't a stat. Especially since his starts this year, which is still completely hypothetical, are being counted into this imaginary stat. Like saying Garoppolo had a shorter Subway career than any other athlete they hired. Funny as hell, but not an actual stat.

Number of starts is a stat.

TL has 4 starts and BP 5 is my understanding. Regular season starts.

Sure, but by adding the caveat that they had to be drafted in the top 3 is not. And the only reason you added that was to screw it. Like I said, Aaron Rodgers would be #1 on that list but for his draft day slide. He was projected as a top 5 pick. So what exactly would your stat tell you? If it were in fact a thing, lol.

Sure. Some caveat is needed. If you just said all QBs, regardless of draft status, it wouldn't make sense, cuz a ton of QBs like a Sudfeld don't ever start or rarely start. The higher up you are selected, the more the investment, probably the more urgency to get that guy on the field. If you revisit Rodgers, and imagine he didn't slide, or SF took Rodgers, then sure he starts a ton, like Alex did, at minimum. My stat tells me that a top 3 pick QB almost universally gets a lot of starts right away. TL probably would have, but he had the injury. Then the emergence of BP. So you need a slew of factors to go against you, to not get a lot of starts, and seemingly that is what is taking place here.

So just say QBs drafted in the first round. Done. They are all expected to be starters.

Lol come on man, we flipped all those assets to move up to pick 3. If we wanted a first round QB, we could have simply stood back with our first round pick and waited. We wanted more. NE stood pat. Which makes sense, as they are the Pats.

I think this TL move has more expectations or investment than a late one like J Druckenmiller. I think it's fair to refer to TL as a pick 3, or top 3.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
But if they don't start right away it doesn't mean a damn thing. Because it is determined by many factors, none of which are under the players control.

You only control what you control. TL has a lot of control, over how good a QB he is. I think he could have played his way onto the field year 1, tho it would have been difficult. He has probably an easier route here in year 3. It's just about being the best option in the room.

Another narrative that got blown up? Poor fellas.

Can't wait for "the gang" to come back the next several days and spin some new way to tell us that they think Lance shouldn'tve been drafted.

Originally posted by thl408:
Today I learned about Jay Berwanger. A RB drafted by the Eagles number 1 overall. He never played a single game in the NFL. Can't get bustier than that so let's eliminate Lance from the title of the BOAT (Bustiest Of All Time).

Bustiest of all time?

Certain not Lance. Just not up his alley.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by thl408:
Today I learned about Jay Berwanger. A RB drafted by the Eagles number 1 overall. He never played a single game in the NFL. Can't get bustier than that so let's eliminate Lance from the title of the BOAT (Bustiest Of All Time).

Bustiest of all time?

Certain not Lance. Just not up his alley.

Have to admit, I had to look at the Carolina step and repeat to know that was Cam Newton.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by thl408:
Today I learned about Jay Berwanger. A RB drafted by the Eagles number 1 overall. He never played a single game in the NFL. Can't get bustier than that so let's eliminate Lance from the title of the BOAT (Bustiest Of All Time).

Bustiest of all time?

Certain not Lance. Just not up his alley.

Have to admit, I had to look at the Carolina step and repeat to know that was Cam Newton.

Bruh used the bad Mahomes picture