Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:


cmon man…

watch this video (Ignore the caption). Whitner, basically a team spokesman, talking about how bad lance looked.

Throwback to the halftime report in Trey Lance's "amazing" game vs the Texans …. @DonteWhitner saw what every defense in league sees when they watch Trey Lance … nothing impressive … if the Texans weren't awful Trey would be 0-3 in his full games as a starter.

Trey Stans… pic.twitter.com/OgIY3kuJ9T

— Flave (@MyOwnFlave) June 29, 2023

Quoting that loser lol. Now we know who to ignore.

Now calling Whitner a loser. Okay…lol

Whitner just calling a spade a spade. Sorry.

And I still contend that anyone who thinks they know that someone is a spade after 3 games is biased as hell. I dont care who the player is or what position/sport they play.

I agree. And like I said earlier, just because he hasn't looked good so far, doesn't mean he can't in the future.

Yep. And that goes for anyone who calls him a bust OR thinks he is good-great. There are just exponentially more of the former than the latter. But even the latter is stupid. No one has any idea how good he is or how good he will be.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:


cmon man…

watch this video (Ignore the caption). Whitner, basically a team spokesman, talking about how bad lance looked.

Throwback to the halftime report in Trey Lance's "amazing" game vs the Texans …. @DonteWhitner saw what every defense in league sees when they watch Trey Lance … nothing impressive … if the Texans weren't awful Trey would be 0-3 in his full games as a starter.

Trey Stans… pic.twitter.com/OgIY3kuJ9T

— Flave (@MyOwnFlave) June 29, 2023

Quoting that loser lol. Now we know who to ignore.

Now calling Whitner a loser. Okay…lol

Whitner just calling a spade a spade. Sorry.

Flave is who I was talking about.

As far as Whitner he said nothing of major substance. We all know Trey's first half wasn't ideal and Whitner is responding to it but he even said Trey looked better on the last drive while also mentioning the near pick(see my post above on near picks)

He could've just as easily mentioned the "near TD" Lance threw to Aiyuk the play before that but that's not fun to discuss.

Throwing that video out there did nothing. 21 year old rookie in his 2nd start and he blew Houston away in the 2nd half. Apparently he's the only QB who got it done "when it matters" and we still need to concentrate on the early start to the game when the nerves were clearly a factor in his first home start.

Once again why is this not a consistent evaluation method for other QBs?

Originally posted by Furlow:
So throwing an INT and almost another, and only getting 3 points on offense is not terrible. Good to know. I'll look for the games where Purdy (or even Jimmy) did that and report back.

He got the team 3 points so he wasn't that terrible. Maybe if the team scored nothing at all you could make a case. How many times has the team scored only 3 with Jimmy? Plenty of times, do you consider Jimmy a terrible QB? And that's from an 8 year veteran

Originally posted by eric_anthony:
He got the team 3 points so he wasn't that terrible. Maybe if the team scored nothing at all you could make a case. How many times has the team scored only 3 with Jimmy? Plenty of times, do you consider Jimmy a terrible QB? And that's from an 8 year veteran

3 points in a half is a bad offensive performance. Whether it's the QB's fault, the offense overall, coaching… it's objectively bad.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Hell yeah I'll give Brock passes for dropped INT's, especially when he does things like helping his team go 7-0. And I'd do the same if Trey Lance went 7-0 with two playoff wins.

Well you should give Trey a pass on this particular game with his dropped second interception considering his win helped the team get into the playoffs after y'all's precious Jimmy damn near ruined the teams playoff hopes by playing like trash against the Titans a week prior.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
3 points in a half is a bad offensive performance. Whether it's the QB's fault, the offense overall, coaching… it's objectively bad.

Fine it was a meh half I'm not saying it was good y'all act like the kid has played flat out terrible.

And let's see if Brock can go 7-0 again if he doesn't have Mccaffrey or Kittle. How does he look in the beginning of the season when the offense isn't rolling?

Originally posted by eric_anthony:
Fine it was a meh half I'm not saying it was good y'all act like the kid has played flat out terrible.

Yep, I think he was pretty bad by NFL starting QB standards. I also think it's ok and not surprising, from an individual perspective, given his lack of experience.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by eric_anthony:
Fine it was a meh half I'm not saying it was good y'all act like the kid has played flat out terrible.

Yep, I think he was pretty bad by NFL starting QB standards. I also think it's ok and not surprising, from an individual perspective, given his lack of experience.

It's not just 3 points in a half, it was there 3 points in a half against the 29th ranked pass defense in the nfl.

it was 3 points against the 29th worst Rush defense in the nfl.

it was 3 points against the 27th ranked defense from a PPG standpoint.

Lance did get it together towards the end of the third quarter but when you're playing a top 5 worst defense in the NFL, with the talent and play calling we have, it's just not an impressive game to me. Lol it was sub par.

only like 3 other teams in the league scored less against them and they were top 5 worst teams in the league. Two of them were the horrid colts and one was the urban Meyer jags. Lol

he got it together, great, but when you're playing a horrible team like that - it wasn't a confidence inspiring performance to me. It actually made me really worried about when we play a decent team. Just like the tweet posted a little back, if the Texans were a good team - we probably would of got smoked.

the cards game was his first game. It wasn't a good performance but it was his first game, no biggie.

the Texans game, with the context above, wasn't a good performance. I thought given the circumstances that it was very disappointing.

the bears game was a tough situation weather wise but I thought we had everything in our favor to win a game like that besides it being on the road. The weather got worse as the game went on and I think the performance in the first 3 quarters or so was bad. You have to take advantage of those early quarters because you knew it was just going to get worse. A lot of guys on O had a lackluster performance and it was disappointing, not just Trey, but he didn't play well at all either. Specifically things like the INT.. it wasn't s good read or anything. I have no issue with an INT if it's a tough pass or something like that in a tight window - it was just bad read/throw/everything.

i honestly couldn't care less if he played well or not from a debate standpoint (I'm not trying to put him down - it's just how I actually feel about it and am surprised others felt he played well), it's irrelevant going forward and he isn't even the starter - i just don't understand how someone can watch those games and come away inspired or confident. I think he played 1.5 quarters of solid ball out of all of his starts, which is really disappointing to me.

im really hoping he has a killer camp and looks confident, aggressive, and decisive. It sounds like he's heading in the right direction, per reports. I just hope it's a big leap and not a minuscule one.

Originally posted by tankle104:
It's not just 3 points in a half, it was there 3 points in a half against the 29th ranked pass defense in the nfl.

it was 3 points against the 29th worst Rush defense in the nfl.

it was 3 points against the 27th ranked defense from a PPG standpoint.

Lance did get it together towards the end of the third quarter but when you're playing a top 5 worst defense in the NFL, with the talent and play calling we have, it's just not an impressive game to me. Lol it was sub par.

only like 3 other teams in the league scored less against them and they were top 5 worst teams in the league. Two of them were the horrid colts and one was the urban Meyer jags. Lol

he got it together, great, but when you're playing a horrible team like that - it wasn't a confidence inspiring performance to me. It actually made me really worried about when we play a decent team. Just like the tweet posted a little back, if the Texans were a good team - we probably would of got smoked.

the cards game was his first game. It wasn't a good performance but it was his first game, no biggie.

the Texans game, with the context above, wasn't a good performance. I thought given the circumstances that it was very disappointing.

the bears game was a tough situation weather wise but I thought we had everything in our favor to win a game like that besides it being on the road. The weather got worse as the game went on and I think the performance in the first 3 quarters or so was bad. You have to take advantage of those early quarters because you knew it was just going to get worse. A lot of guys on O had a lackluster performance and it was disappointing, not just Trey, but he didn't play well at all either. Specifically things like the INT.. it wasn't s good read or anything. I have no issue with an INT if it's a tough pass or something like that in a tight window - it was just bad read/throw/everything.

i honestly couldn't care less if he played well or not from a debate standpoint (I'm not trying to put him down - it's just how I actually feel about it and am surprised others felt he played well), it's irrelevant going forward and he isn't even the starter - i just don't understand how someone can watch those games and come away inspired or confident. I think he played 1.5 quarters of solid ball out of all of his starts, which is really disappointing to me.

im really hoping he has a killer camp and looks confident, aggressive, and decisive. It sounds like he's heading in the right direction, per reports. I just hope it's a big leap and not a minuscule one.

Nobody reading all that junk when your main point is basically "he only scored 3 points in a half vs a bad team"

How about writing a novel about the great Bills offense and Josh Allen putting up 6 points in a whole game vs the worst team in the NFL that same season with the Jags?

Almost like sometimes teams just have better games than their record suggests?

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by tankle104:
It's not just 3 points in a half, it was there 3 points in a half against the 29th ranked pass defense in the nfl.

it was 3 points against the 29th worst Rush defense in the nfl.

it was 3 points against the 27th ranked defense from a PPG standpoint.

Lance did get it together towards the end of the third quarter but when you're playing a top 5 worst defense in the NFL, with the talent and play calling we have, it's just not an impressive game to me. Lol it was sub par.

only like 3 other teams in the league scored less against them and they were top 5 worst teams in the league. Two of them were the horrid colts and one was the urban Meyer jags. Lol

he got it together, great, but when you're playing a horrible team like that - it wasn't a confidence inspiring performance to me. It actually made me really worried about when we play a decent team. Just like the tweet posted a little back, if the Texans were a good team - we probably would of got smoked.

the cards game was his first game. It wasn't a good performance but it was his first game, no biggie.

the Texans game, with the context above, wasn't a good performance. I thought given the circumstances that it was very disappointing.

the bears game was a tough situation weather wise but I thought we had everything in our favor to win a game like that besides it being on the road. The weather got worse as the game went on and I think the performance in the first 3 quarters or so was bad. You have to take advantage of those early quarters because you knew it was just going to get worse. A lot of guys on O had a lackluster performance and it was disappointing, not just Trey, but he didn't play well at all either. Specifically things like the INT.. it wasn't s good read or anything. I have no issue with an INT if it's a tough pass or something like that in a tight window - it was just bad read/throw/everything.

i honestly couldn't care less if he played well or not from a debate standpoint (I'm not trying to put him down - it's just how I actually feel about it and am surprised others felt he played well), it's irrelevant going forward and he isn't even the starter - i just don't understand how someone can watch those games and come away inspired or confident. I think he played 1.5 quarters of solid ball out of all of his starts, which is really disappointing to me.

im really hoping he has a killer camp and looks confident, aggressive, and decisive. It sounds like he's heading in the right direction, per reports. I just hope it's a big leap and not a minuscule one.

Nobody reading all that junk when your main point is basically "he only scored 3 points in a half vs a bad team"

How about writing a novel about the great Bills offense and Josh Allen putting up 6 points in a whole game vs the worst team in the NFL that same season with the Jags?

Almost like sometimes teams just have better games than their record suggests?

Lmao well the post I replied to.. they were talking about halves. So don't read it, since it makes you feel like you're right.

Are we talking about the jags or bills? That has nothing to do with anything because you can prove it's an outlier for the bills with the numerous games Josh allen and party have been awesome.

you can't do that with Lance. All his games, which aren't many, have been poor performances. Lol

no matter what you want to say, the reality is that he's struggled running the offense as the starter. Every stat says that. To the point where the team is ready to move on from him.

the team is making him compete for the backup position with a bonafide bust but he's played really good when given the opportunity! Showed sooo much potential that he's a backup QB and isn't even being considered for the starting spot. He was so good that he has 0 trade value with a rookie scale contract that has 3 years left. Lol

im not happy it's turned out this way, I just live in reality.

Originally posted by eric_anthony:
And let's see if Brock can go 7-0 again if he doesn't have Mccaffrey or Kittle. How does he look in the beginning of the season when the offense isn't rolling?

This is the more pertinent part for me. Purdy did fantastically well and had me screaming out of my seat at times, but go and watch how badly we were playing, particularly at OL when Lance was under centre. It was night and day, and I think we'd be talking about two different players if their slots during that season were reversed.

Originally posted by tankle104:
It's not just 3 points in a half...

I don't think this assessment is horrible. Certainly it would be crazy to say 'Hey, everything is fine, he actually played really well.'.
But there was a lot of good QB play in amongst the errors and miscues.
We can't really afford to develop a learner QB, but for a guy who has only played 3 games or so, there were plenty of glimpses of what he can do.
My vibe is that he looked raw, but its way too early to write him off (as some seem to have done).

Originally posted by tankle104:
Lmao well the post I replied to.. they were talking about halves. So don't read it, since it makes you feel like you're right.

Are we talking about the jags or bills? That has nothing to do with anything because you can prove it's an outlier for the bills with the numerous games Josh allen and party have been awesome.

you can't do that with Lance. All his games, which aren't many, have been poor performances. Lol

no matter what you want to say, the reality is that he's struggled running the offense as the starter. Every stat says that. To the point where the team is ready to move on from him.

the team is making him compete for the backup position with a bonafide bust but he's played really good when given the opportunity! Showed sooo much potential that he's a backup QB and isn't even being considered for the starting spot. He was so good that he has 0 trade value with a rookie scale contract that has 3 years left. Lol

im not happy it's turned out this way, I just live in reality.

His first game against the 7-0 Cardinals wasn't great but hey they still had a chance to win that game. They didn't get smoked. If the playcalling wasn't completely inept they maybe could've pulled out a win with a couple more TD drives. Now maybe Kyle called the game how he did because of Trey's finger injury but there were also dropped balls and holding penalties that killed drives. But Lance was moving the team down the field in that game so no I don't think he played horrible. This is with Mitchell only running the ball 6 or 7 times with no one else behind him on the depth chart. Aiyuk was also still in the dog house at this point. Oh yeah and no Kittle to help with the run or pass game. For a kid with very little experience and thrown into the lineup without being the starter from the beginning of the season again he didn't play terrible.

I disagree with all his games being poor performances yeah the offense has looked clunky when he's operating it but get this, THE KID HAS BARELY PLAYED! You shouldn't be shocked that he doesn't look like a guy who's played 4 years of real competition like Brock. But even still without much experience he hasn't looked like a disaster in his starts like many of you claim he has. He's shown nice plays in all of his games but yeah let's just focus on the losses and points not being scored. I just wanna mention that nobody besides Genus talks about the absolute dime throw that he threw to Aiyuk at the end of the half of the Texans game where the defender is literally holding onto his arm. His ball placement on that throw was perfect and if Aiyuk had his other arm not being held that's a TD there. It's a throw neither Jimmy or Brock could make and he threw it with a broken finger. The blind ass referee should've called a pass interference too and it would've been first and goal.

if the team is really ready to move on from him already after 3.5 games then shame on them big time. You don't do that with the investment they made to get him I don't care if this team is "win now" or how many veterans they have that are getting older and they're getting impatient. They shouldn't have drafted him then if they weren't willing to develop and grow with this kid. They should've known it would take some time for him to get up to speed at the NFL level. Or they really just don't know how to evaluate QB's. It's almost as if Trey is not allowed to make mistakes with you guys yet Jimmy could make so many mistakes and he gets all excuses in the world because of his W-L record.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by tankle104:
It's not just 3 points in a half, it was there 3 points in a half against the 29th ranked pass defense in the nfl.

it was 3 points against the 29th worst Rush defense in the nfl.

it was 3 points against the 27th ranked defense from a PPG standpoint.

Lance did get it together towards the end of the third quarter but when you're playing a top 5 worst defense in the NFL, with the talent and play calling we have, it's just not an impressive game to me. Lol it was sub par.

only like 3 other teams in the league scored less against them and they were top 5 worst teams in the league. Two of them were the horrid colts and one was the urban Meyer jags. Lol

he got it together, great, but when you're playing a horrible team like that - it wasn't a confidence inspiring performance to me. It actually made me really worried about when we play a decent team. Just like the tweet posted a little back, if the Texans were a good team - we probably would of got smoked.

the cards game was his first game. It wasn't a good performance but it was his first game, no biggie.

the Texans game, with the context above, wasn't a good performance. I thought given the circumstances that it was very disappointing.

the bears game was a tough situation weather wise but I thought we had everything in our favor to win a game like that besides it being on the road. The weather got worse as the game went on and I think the performance in the first 3 quarters or so was bad. You have to take advantage of those early quarters because you knew it was just going to get worse. A lot of guys on O had a lackluster performance and it was disappointing, not just Trey, but he didn't play well at all either. Specifically things like the INT.. it wasn't s good read or anything. I have no issue with an INT if it's a tough pass or something like that in a tight window - it was just bad read/throw/everything.

i honestly couldn't care less if he played well or not from a debate standpoint (I'm not trying to put him down - it's just how I actually feel about it and am surprised others felt he played well), it's irrelevant going forward and he isn't even the starter - i just don't understand how someone can watch those games and come away inspired or confident. I think he played 1.5 quarters of solid ball out of all of his starts, which is really disappointing to me.

im really hoping he has a killer camp and looks confident, aggressive, and decisive. It sounds like he's heading in the right direction, per reports. I just hope it's a big leap and not a minuscule one.

Nobody reading all that junk when your main point is basically "he only scored 3 points in a half vs a bad team"

How about writing a novel about the great Bills offense and Josh Allen putting up 6 points in a whole game vs the worst team in the NFL that same season with the Jags?

Almost like sometimes teams just have better games than their record suggests?

Lmao well the post I replied to.. they were talking about halves. So don't read it, since it makes you feel like you're right.

Are we talking about the jags or bills? That has nothing to do with anything because you can prove it's an outlier for the bills with the numerous games Josh allen and party have been awesome.

you can't do that with Lance. All his games, which aren't many, have been poor performances. Lol

no matter what you want to say, the reality is that he's struggled running the offense as the starter. Every stat says that. To the point where the team is ready to move on from him.

the team is making him compete for the backup position with a bonafide bust but he's played really good when given the opportunity! Showed sooo much potential that he's a backup QB and isn't even being considered for the starting spot. He was so good that he has 0 trade value with a rookie scale contract that has 3 years left. Lol

im not happy it's turned out this way, I just live in reality.

The point is it's stupid to concentrate on one half, especially for a young QB. I'd be more concerned if the 3 points in one half happened in the 2nd half. Lance showed growth within the game which is what you want.

Go back and watch the game. Our playcalling in the first half wasn't great and yes it took Trey some time to shake off the rust/jitters whatever you want to call it. He still made some nice plays within that half and the bulk of the failures were actually run related.

As for your "realistic" analysis based on hyperbole…lmao get real.