Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Talking out of your rear end on this one. Just making things up.

He always is it's not worth engaging

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Im saying throwing a couple balls doesn't make a great qb. This should be clear to everyone.

Look at these highlights from these busts.
Some pretty impressive throws.

You also don't write off Trey after 3.5 games. He's shown that he belongs in the NFL and has made some plays in his limited sample size. He hasn't played terrible at all not even in the slightest.

Originally posted by joeknows:

Originally posted by BOI49er:
You know, it kind of worked out. Even without these three first round picks, IMO, we still have the best roster in the league. If we'd of picked up Rodgers' $50m/year contract, that wouldn't be the case, and we wouldn't be set at quarterback for long.

With John's prowess in the draft and trades, and Kyle's reputation that will always attract top quarterbacks, it was always just a matter of deciding to move on from Jimmy and taking some shots. I think Brock's going to be a top quarterback, and I think if needed, Kyle can win games with both Trey and Sam. The upside far exceeds the spilt milk.

It might still work out, and I hope it does. But if the 'it' we're talking about is jumping up for Trey, it clearly hasn't worked out yet.

The other move they made - the one that did work out - was very bold also. People play down the fact that 49ers had guaranteed Sudfeld $2M, and ended up having to pay $1M of that rather than risk losing Purdy, who up to that point was not a lauded player at all. That was actually surprising and ballsy.

No, what worked out is us ending up with a very top roster, including at the qb position, without spending $50m+ on Rodgers or similar.

If Kyle can keep Purdy performing and can coach up Darnold like he seems to think he can, and we cut Lance for nothing, I'll still think it worked out. We kept our roster, and got good qb play.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by eric_anthony:

Originally posted by genus49:
And yet he's shown NFL caliber throws and into right windows in the NFL so…

Dudes just aren't watching or are blind I guess.

How many years will it take for fans to realize that this alone doesn't make a great qb? It's the same argument over and over again. Do you know who else was capable of making NFL throws in tight windows? Jim druckenmiller, jamarcus Russell. Akili Smith, Joey Harrington, Tim couch, josh rosen...

jc puttin out truth bombs...

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by eric_anthony:

Originally posted by genus49:
And yet he's shown NFL caliber throws and into right windows in the NFL so…

Dudes just aren't watching or are blind I guess.

How many years will it take for fans to realize that this alone doesn't make a great qb? It's the same argument over and over again. Do you know who else was capable of making NFL throws in tight windows? Jim druckenmiller, jamarcus Russell. Akili Smith, Joey Harrington, Tim couch, josh rosen...

jc puttin out truth bombs...

Anything negative about Trey is a truth Bomb to you.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by genus49:
Man you guys are exhausting.

Nobody is putting Lance in the HOF, simply saying the guy has yet to write his story and hasn't been as bad as some are painting him in the film he's shown so far.

Bringing up his college tape at this point is stupid. It may not be a lot but we have NFL film to look at so making claims he didn't make NFL throws on his college tape means little when he's made NFL throws...in the NFL!

btw feel free to find me those NFL throws from Jim Drucknemiller....

Lance also had the 3rd best big time throw % last season and 90% of his throws came in a big rain game, with the bulk of those attempts happening late in the game when the rain was its worst.

It may not be a guarantee of great success but it's not a bad thing to show in limited snaps and tough circumstances.

lol 3rd in btt% and you are basing that off what, a game? dude doesn't even qualify

Yes...I'm basing it off the only games he had.

Do you want me to base it off games that didn't happen? That's the whole point of waiting to evaluating the kid.

that's not an evaluation, he had 5 bad quarters and didn't score any points and you want to talk about btt %, 3rd best in the NFL.. give me a break man
do you realize how silly this sounds? heck one could say he had the lowest TD % in NFL history, tied with a bunch of guys at 0%, he didn't get the ball in the endzone
if someone was going around talking about him being 0% on that, or dead last, I would say give me a break, he didn't play enough games

this is why typically on metric stats, you need a min number of games or attempts to qualify.

You have a hard time following logic and conversations since you're too busy bending over backwards trying to downplay what Lance has done in those limited starts.

So yes considering the reason I brought up those BTT% was in response to someone trying to act like because Lance didn't throw into tight windows in college that somehow should matter more than what he has done in the NFL.

So if you want to talk silly then go talk to your boy about somehow referring to his college tape as ways to evaluate him at this point.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by genus49:
Man you guys are exhausting.

Nobody is putting Lance in the HOF, simply saying the guy has yet to write his story and hasn't been as bad as some are painting him in the film he's shown so far.

Bringing up his college tape at this point is stupid. It may not be a lot but we have NFL film to look at so making claims he didn't make NFL throws on his college tape means little when he's made NFL throws...in the NFL!

btw feel free to find me those NFL throws from Jim Drucknemiller....

Lance also had the 3rd best big time throw % last season and 90% of his throws came in a big rain game, with the bulk of those attempts happening late in the game when the rain was its worst.

It may not be a guarantee of great success but it's not a bad thing to show in limited snaps and tough circumstances.

lol 3rd in btt% and you are basing that off what, a game? dude doesn't even qualify

Yes...I'm basing it off the only games he had.

Do you want me to base it off games that didn't happen? That's the whole point of waiting to evaluating the kid.

that's not an evaluation, he had 5 bad quarters and didn't score any points and you want to talk about btt %, 3rd best in the NFL.. give me a break man
do you realize how silly this sounds? heck one could say he had the lowest TD % in NFL history, tied with a bunch of guys at 0%, he didn't get the ball in the endzone
if someone was going around talking about him being 0% on that, or dead last, I would say give me a break, he didn't play enough games

this is why typically on metric stats, you need a min number of games or attempts to qualify.

This won't be the last time you have to say this lol.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
How many years will it take for fans to realize that this alone doesn't make a great qb? It's the same argument over and over again. Do you know who else was capable of making NFL throws in tight windows? Jim druckenmiller, jamarcus Russell. Akili Smith, Joey Harrington, Tim couch, josh rosen...

Talking out of your rear end on this one. Just making things up.

Always, He's a troll. switches to the next topic over and over with the same shtick

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by genus49:
Man you guys are exhausting.

Nobody is putting Lance in the HOF, simply saying the guy has yet to write his story and hasn't been as bad as some are painting him in the film he's shown so far.

Bringing up his college tape at this point is stupid. It may not be a lot but we have NFL film to look at so making claims he didn't make NFL throws on his college tape means little when he's made NFL throws...in the NFL!

btw feel free to find me those NFL throws from Jim Drucknemiller....

Lance also had the 3rd best big time throw % last season and 90% of his throws came in a big rain game, with the bulk of those attempts happening late in the game when the rain was its worst.

It may not be a guarantee of great success but it's not a bad thing to show in limited snaps and tough circumstances.

lol 3rd in btt% and you are basing that off what, a game? dude doesn't even qualify

Yes...I'm basing it off the only games he had.

Do you want me to base it off games that didn't happen? That's the whole point of waiting to evaluating the kid.

that's not an evaluation, he had 5 bad quarters and didn't score any points and you want to talk about btt %, 3rd best in the NFL.. give me a break man
do you realize how silly this sounds? heck one could say he had the lowest TD % in NFL history, tied with a bunch of guys at 0%, he didn't get the ball in the endzone
if someone was going around talking about him being 0% on that, or dead last, I would say give me a break, he didn't play enough games

this is why typically on metric stats, you need a min number of games or attempts to qualify.

You have a hard time following logic and conversations since you're too busy bending over backwards trying to downplay what Lance has done in those limited starts.

So yes considering the reason I brought up those BTT% was in response to someone trying to act like because Lance didn't throw into tight windows in college that somehow should matter more than what he has done in the NFL.

So if you want to talk silly then go talk to your boy about somehow referring to his college tape as ways to evaluate him at this point.

btt's in a game where we did absolute bleep all vs the worst team in football
btts are stupid. you have two ppl looking at the same throw, and one will say btt and the other will say nope. it's not a stat imo, all it tells me is PFF hired some hourly folks to generate more product. they are trying to sell this to grow their business. i'll watch the games, I don't need someone pff hired to explain to me, if my QB made a big time throw or not.. i'll figure that out on my own, thanks

Originally posted by eric_anthony:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Im saying throwing a couple balls doesn't make a great qb. This should be clear to everyone.

Look at these highlights from these busts.
Some pretty impressive throws.

You also don't write off Trey after 3.5 games. He's shown that he belongs in the NFL and has made some plays in his limited sample size. He hasn't played terrible at all not even in the slightest.

What have you been watching? Lol Trey has made a couple of nice plays, no doubt, but he has had a ton of crappy plays.

2/3 of his starts he didn't even score a touchdown. Completed half of his passes. Turnovers in every game.

im not saying we give up on him, or that he won't ever get better, but he's def had some crappy performances.

Originally posted by eric_anthony:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Im saying throwing a couple balls doesn't make a great qb. This should be clear to everyone.

Look at these highlights from these busts.
Some pretty impressive throws.

You also don't write off Trey after 3.5 games. He's shown that he belongs in the NFL and has made some plays in his limited sample size. He hasn't played terrible at all not even in the slightest.

cmon man…

watch this video (Ignore the caption). Whitner, basically a team spokesman, talking about how bad lance looked.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by eric_anthony:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Im saying throwing a couple balls doesn't make a great qb. This should be clear to everyone.

Look at these highlights from these busts.
Some pretty impressive throws.

You also don't write off Trey after 3.5 games. He's shown that he belongs in the NFL and has made some plays in his limited sample size. He hasn't played terrible at all not even in the slightest.

What have you been watching? Lol Trey has made a couple of nice plays, no doubt, but he has had a ton of crappy plays.

2/3 of his starts he didn't even score a touchdown. Completed half of his passes. Turnovers in every game.

im not saying we give up on him, or that he won't ever get better, but he's def had some crappy performances.

Seriously. Like you said, doesn't mean he can't get better. But so far, it is what it is. You're only fooling yourself.

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
jc puttin out truth bombs...

Yeah sure dude nothing but facts

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:


cmon man…

watch this video (Ignore the caption). Whitner, basically a team spokesman, talking about how bad lance looked.

Throwback to the halftime report in Trey Lance's "amazing" game vs the Texans …. @DonteWhitner saw what every defense in league sees when they watch Trey Lance … nothing impressive … if the Texans weren't awful Trey would be 0-3 in his full games as a starter.

Trey Stans… pic.twitter.com/OgIY3kuJ9T

— Flave (@MyOwnFlave) June 29, 2023

Yeah and Whitner said that with the 2022 Defense the Niners would go 17-0 I don't agree with Whitner in that first half he didn't play terrible. He started off slow but it wasn't terrible. Just because he didn't score a TD doesn't mean he looked bad. It definitely wasn't very good. He threw 1 int and almost another one, big deal. Y'all be giving Brock passes on all the interceptions he threw that were dropped. They still managed to win the game and I don't care if it was against the s**tty Texans. That's still an NFL team playing off the bench with limited experience. Playing terrible would be him fumbling the ball, throwing 2 pics or more in a half or just missing receivers like really badly like not even close to on target.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by genus49:
Man you guys are exhausting.

Nobody is putting Lance in the HOF, simply saying the guy has yet to write his story and hasn't been as bad as some are painting him in the film he's shown so far.

Bringing up his college tape at this point is stupid. It may not be a lot but we have NFL film to look at so making claims he didn't make NFL throws on his college tape means little when he's made NFL throws...in the NFL!

btw feel free to find me those NFL throws from Jim Drucknemiller....

Lance also had the 3rd best big time throw % last season and 90% of his throws came in a big rain game, with the bulk of those attempts happening late in the game when the rain was its worst.

It may not be a guarantee of great success but it's not a bad thing to show in limited snaps and tough circumstances.

lol 3rd in btt% and you are basing that off what, a game? dude doesn't even qualify

Yes...I'm basing it off the only games he had.

Do you want me to base it off games that didn't happen? That's the whole point of waiting to evaluating the kid.

that's not an evaluation, he had 5 bad quarters and didn't score any points and you want to talk about btt %, 3rd best in the NFL.. give me a break man
do you realize how silly this sounds? heck one could say he had the lowest TD % in NFL history, tied with a bunch of guys at 0%, he didn't get the ball in the endzone
if someone was going around talking about him being 0% on that, or dead last, I would say give me a break, he didn't play enough games

this is why typically on metric stats, you need a min number of games or attempts to qualify.

You have a hard time following logic and conversations since you're too busy bending over backwards trying to downplay what Lance has done in those limited starts.

So yes considering the reason I brought up those BTT% was in response to someone trying to act like because Lance didn't throw into tight windows in college that somehow should matter more than what he has done in the NFL.

So if you want to talk silly then go talk to your boy about somehow referring to his college tape as ways to evaluate him at this point.

btt's in a game where we did absolute bleep all vs the worst team in football
btts are stupid. you have two ppl looking at the same throw, and one will say btt and the other will say nope. it's not a stat imo, all it tells me is PFF hired some hourly folks to generate more product. they are trying to sell this to grow their business. i'll watch the games, I don't need someone pff hired to explain to me, if my QB made a big time throw or not.. i'll figure that out on my own, thanks

Who do you need to help you read? Seems like you're struggling with that but we're supposed to take your football takes seriously?

i don't need PFF's btt analysis to tell me Lance has made high NfL level throws in his limited starts. The conversation was about those. Limited or not if he made ANY nfl level throws I'd say that trumps his college tape where someone claimed he didn't have to make any.