Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Yup. Like the posters that were s**tting on Trey because he was practicing with Mahomes. A couple prominent Trey detractors literally mocked me for saying it was a good thing. Saying how pointless it was and that he wouldn't learn anything. Now we learn that it has actually helped him quite a bit(though it was literally about as common sense as it gets) but these guys didn't want that. They truly didn't. They took a huge positive and made it a negative just to be negative against him.
I'm a huge Trey guy based off raw potential but I still have no clue what the guy possesses. To sit and judge any player any sport after 4 games is one of the least honest and intelligent sports conversation I can think of. Trey could be a bust for all that I know but after 4 games? How utterly ridiculous.
Him working out with Mahomes does nothing. It was working out with his personal Trainer that has helped Trey. I did say, that if he was able to pickup on Patricks workout regime that COULD be a plus. But just because he was throwing with Patrick doesn't really mean much. He's been to like 4 different passing coaches( including Patrick's guy) hey are going to teach him a hell of a lot more than he's going to get from just throwing with Patrick. That was my point. A lot of these guys throw together in the off-season. They are there to work on their own game. They aren't there to teach. That is what the Passing coaches are for.
As I understand it, the trainer himself said watching Mahomes execute what Christensen asked him to do was the biggest factor in the mechanical changes he's made.
Yup he did. As I said any excuse to bring the guy down. The fact that this needs to be explained is absolutely astonishing to me. To think practicing with a great player and learning tips and tricks from him will amounts to nothing is just dumb. I'm sorry but players are always learning and training with others. This is common sense.....
"So say Kyle Shanahan, John Lynch and Jeff Christensen, the private quarterbacks coach who analyzed Lance's throwing motion and worked with him earlier in the offseason. In a phone interview with The Athletic this week, Christensen said Lance's biggest breakthrough came when he stood behind his most famous client, Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes, and watched him throw."
"I said, 'Watch this. Watch what he does here,'" Christensen recounted. "It was something I was telling him to do that he wasn't quite doing. And then he saw Patrick apply it perfectly. And I think that visual buy-in, that mental buy-in, helped him past that mental hump."
"And to his credit he just kept getting better," he continued. "(Over) the last seven days, every day was a substantial jump."
https://theathletic.com/4533179/2023/05/19/49ers-trey-lance-patrick-mahomes/
Just an unfortunate set of circumstances for Trey. Had he went to Christensen last year, who knows? But unfortunately (for Trey), Purdy looked good enough to get dibs on the starting position, and he's unlikely to relinquish that, despite what others say about his sample size being too small. He had four years of college ball. Some of what plagued him in college didn't go away in the NFL. He was still sometimes late on deep balls, especially out breaking ones. But he also clearly improved in some areas, such as his alleged tendency to avoid throwing into tight windows. He definitely did that in the NFL. And even with some of those flaws remaining, he still presented an excellent overall body of work.
So what's his "mean?" I think at minimum it's not very much worse than last year. But it might be a little bit better. And either way, that's winning football. A step above Jimmy G.
So, if Brock continues to play at that level, Trey's only hope of even getting on the field is if Brock gets hurt. So yeah, very unfortunate for Trey. And possibly us, if Trey actually maximizes his talent, which would—drum roll please—likely make him better than Purdy in the end. But, Purdy's going to be cheaper, both now and the next contract (if Trey maximized his potential), and the team is still going to win. So we're good either way. But it's just not fair to Trey to be hit with these injuries and have his development derailed so badly.
[ Edited by 5_Golden_Rings on May 30, 2023 at 5:33 PM ]
how's that work?