Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Listening to Crocker propose a trade of Lance to the Commies for Chase Young if the FO is 100% sold on Purdy. Ngl that's not a horrible idea

trey lance has hardly any value right now, we'd be lucky to get a 2nd rod 3rd rounder for him

I agree Lances value is low but this was proposed assuming Washington would accept it.

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
load looks more compact which is good/faster, too hard to tell if he has changed his delivery... wait and see with better video... problem is, when he is not thinking and just reacting is he going to revert to how he always threw the ball... hard to make major changes to the passing motion at his age and be successful

LOL

I'm assuming you disagree with the following opinions based on your "LOL"

1) looks more compact which is good
(appears that way. Don't think it's LOL worthy IMO)
2) will revert when there are live reps
(very possible. Something that is often said in football communities. Again not LOL worthy IMO)
3) hard to make major changes to his passing motion at this stage of his career and be successful
( I know players often tweak stuff here and there during offseason. Or work on cleaning stuff up. Not too familiar with major overhauls in year 3 of NFL career. Well see what happens but again not LOL worthy)

ARod completely changed his motion over a 3 season period sitting behind Brett Favre. He had the weird Tedford taught hold it high and tight motion that McCarthy has spoken about having to correct in the past. Unless I'm mistaken it was Aarons motion that needed to be fixed, and McCarthy's doubting his coachability in doing so that tipped the scales in favor of Alex Smith, as it was McCarthy that made the final decision to go with Alex over Aaron as everyone else in the org had them so close.

I don't remember if Rodgers started his overhaul on year 3 of his NFL career. Maybe Young is also an example of this.

Eithway, we can list outliers all we want. It still doesnt make the "hard to make major changes to his passing motion at this stage of his career and be successful" comment LOL worthy.

he didn't say it was impossible just that it "hard". Maybe Lance is another example that people can use down the line. Well see. Definitely not LOL worthy though IMO

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Listening to Crocker propose a trade of Lance to the Commies for Chase Young if the FO is 100% sold on Purdy. Ngl that's not a horrible idea

trey lance has hardly any value right now, we'd be lucky to get a 2nd rod 3rd rounder for him

I agree Lances value is low but this was proposed assuming Washington would accept it.

I pass

the guy played 2 games last season, they declined his 5th year option. You may say TL played 2 games last season, fair enough, but QB >>>>> DE
in a best case, Young would ball hard for us, and we would have to back up the truck, tag or he walks

I think until we get more clarity on BP being healthy and active, TL being traded out just doesn't make sense to me

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Listening to Crocker propose a trade of Lance to the Commies for Chase Young if the FO is 100% sold on Purdy. Ngl that's not a horrible idea

trey lance has hardly any value right now, we'd be lucky to get a 2nd rod 3rd rounder for him

I agree Lances value is low but this was proposed assuming Washington would accept it.

I pass

the guy played 2 games last season, they declined his 5th year option. You may say TL played 2 games last season, fair enough, but QB >>>>> DE
in a best case, Young would ball hard for us, and we would have to back up the truck, tag or he walks

I think until we get more clarity on BP being healthy and active, TL being traded out just doesn't make sense to me

Cool so back up QB >>>>>> Edge Rusher opposite of Bosa

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
I'm not expecting him to say it, I'm just expecting him to feel it. I'm just afraid he's too passive. As I said, you have to be diplomatic and a good teammate. But you still got to have that ruthlessness.

I think he's all but said that months ago.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Listening to Crocker propose a trade of Lance to the Commies for Chase Young if the FO is 100% sold on Purdy. Ngl that's not a horrible idea

trey lance has hardly any value right now, we'd be lucky to get a 2nd rod 3rd rounder for him

I agree Lances value is low but this was proposed assuming Washington would accept it.

I pass

the guy played 2 games last season, they declined his 5th year option. You may say TL played 2 games last season, fair enough, but QB >>>>> DE
in a best case, Young would ball hard for us, and we would have to back up the truck, tag or he walks

I think until we get more clarity on BP being healthy and active, TL being traded out just doesn't make sense to me

Cool so back up QB >>>>>> Edge Rusher opposite of Bosa

I don't conceive of it that way.. I have doubts BP will be ready to go week 1, and if SF will put him in that role, if the timetable is tight. So TL may very well be QB1, and a darn intriguing QB1 at that, with his draft status, his arm and the talent around..

are the TL folks seeing this?..

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I pass

the guy played 2 games last season, they declined his 5th year option. You may say TL played 2 games last season, fair enough, but QB >>>>> DE
in a best case, Young would ball hard for us, and we would have to back up the truck, tag or he walks

I think until we get more clarity on BP being healthy and active, TL being traded out just doesn't make sense to me

Not to mention that Chase will be looking for a new contract. He either will be no good which will make the trade horrible or he balls out and becomes too expensive. Not paying two DE's a bunch of money and two DT's a bunch of money. Also Trey again made it clear he likes it here and would rather be nowhere else. And he's a great character guy who is still cheap when it comes to the position he plays. And you invested alot to get him. No reason at all to trade him. We have no idea how Brock will be longterm. Why not keep the safety net you used 3 1st RD picks to go get?

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Cool so back up QB >>>>>> Edge Rusher opposite of Bosa

We all know how long a "backup" stays a backup on our team. Brock hasn't proven he can stay healthy either. Who knows who ends up the "starter" when the dust clears end of this year.

It's all but a one yr rental for Young anyway.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Listening to Crocker propose a trade of Lance to the Commies for Chase Young if the FO is 100% sold on Purdy. Ngl that's not a horrible idea

Hmm kind of is to me. Young is unproven, had bad injuries, expensive, and has a year or so left? I'd rather keep Trey as the backup.

id rather have Montez sweat from them and some draft picks

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
load looks more compact which is good/faster, too hard to tell if he has changed his delivery... wait and see with better video... problem is, when he is not thinking and just reacting is he going to revert to how he always threw the ball... hard to make major changes to the passing motion at his age and be successful

LOL

I'm assuming you disagree with the following opinions based on your "LOL"

1) looks more compact which is good
(appears that way. Don't think it's LOL worthy IMO)
2) will revert when there are live reps
(very possible. Something that is often said in football communities. Again not LOL worthy IMO)
3) hard to make major changes to his passing motion at this stage of his career and be successful
( I know players often tweak stuff here and there during offseason. Or work on cleaning stuff up. Not too familiar with major overhauls in year 3 of NFL career. Well see what happens but again not LOL worthy)

I disagree with the idea that he is going to revert back to his old throwing motion. That is nothing more than a baseless assumption due to the posters hate of the player. We have seen many quarterbacks change their mechanics over the years, but because its Trey Lance, the change in mechanics arent sustainable. Also, "hard to make major changes....at his age and be successful" is an equally laughable claim. A 23 year old is too old to make changes and be successful? I could understand if he was 35, but at 23 we are making that silly claim? So dumb.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Listening to Crocker propose a trade of Lance to the Commies for Chase Young if the FO is 100% sold on Purdy. Ngl that's not a horrible idea

trey lance has hardly any value right now, we'd be lucky to get a 2nd rod 3rd rounder for him

I agree Lances value is low but this was proposed assuming Washington would accept it.

I pass

the guy played 2 games last season, they declined his 5th year option. You may say TL played 2 games last season, fair enough, but QB >>>>> DE
in a best case, Young would ball hard for us, and we would have to back up the truck, tag or he walks

I think until we get more clarity on BP being healthy and active, TL being traded out just doesn't make sense to me

Cool so back up QB >>>>>> Edge Rusher opposite of Bosa

I don't conceive of it that way.. I have doubts BP will be ready to go week 1, and if SF will put him in that role, if the timetable is tight. So TL may very well be QB1, and a darn intriguing QB1 at that, with his draft status, his arm and the talent around..

are the TL folks seeing this?..

Ok so when you read the "if the FO is 100% sold on Purdy" what did your brain perceive it as?

Originally posted by JTB1974:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I pass

the guy played 2 games last season, they declined his 5th year option. You may say TL played 2 games last season, fair enough, but QB >>>>> DE
in a best case, Young would ball hard for us, and we would have to back up the truck, tag or he walks

I think until we get more clarity on BP being healthy and active, TL being traded out just doesn't make sense to me

Not to mention that Chase will be looking for a new contract. He either will be no good which will make the trade horrible or he balls out and becomes too expensive. Not paying two DE's a bunch of money and two DT's a bunch of money. Also Trey again made it clear he likes it here and would rather be nowhere else. And he's a great character guy who is still cheap when it comes to the position he plays. And you invested alot to get him. No reason at all to trade him. We have no idea how Brock will be longterm. Why not keep the safety net you used 3 1st RD picks to go get?

that was mentioned tho

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Listening to Crocker propose a trade of Lance to the Commies for Chase Young if the FO is 100% sold on Purdy. Ngl that's not a horrible idea

Hmm kind of is to me. Young is unproven, had bad injuries, expensive, and has a year or so left? I'd rather keep Trey as the backup.

id rather have Montez sweat from them and some draft picks

You say unproven yet Lance as a back up is the good idea.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Ok so when you read the "if the FO is 100% sold on Purdy" what did your brain perceive it as?

How many times has this FO been "all in" or used the word "conviction" only to back out of that stance…especially at QB?

truth is we got a bunch of question marks at QB. IMO none of these guys have some long leash or haven proven enough to be the long-term guy.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Listening to Crocker propose a trade of Lance to the Commies for Chase Young if the FO is 100% sold on Purdy. Ngl that's not a horrible idea

trey lance has hardly any value right now, we'd be lucky to get a 2nd rod 3rd rounder for him

I agree Lances value is low but this was proposed assuming Washington would accept it.

I pass

the guy played 2 games last season, they declined his 5th year option. You may say TL played 2 games last season, fair enough, but QB >>>>> DE
in a best case, Young would ball hard for us, and we would have to back up the truck, tag or he walks

I think until we get more clarity on BP being healthy and active, TL being traded out just doesn't make sense to me

Cool so back up QB >>>>>> Edge Rusher opposite of Bosa

I don't conceive of it that way.. I have doubts BP will be ready to go week 1, and if SF will put him in that role, if the timetable is tight. So TL may very well be QB1, and a darn intriguing QB1 at that, with his draft status, his arm and the talent around..

are the TL folks seeing this?..

Ok so when you read the "if the FO is 100% sold on Purdy" what did your brain perceive it as?

I perceived it as they view him as the 'leader of the room' or as the QB1 upon his return, which they do

if you want to go in the direction of pretending he's 100% healthy today, which is a whole new convo, that deal makes more sense, but that's simply not where we are now in reality, in a hypothetical maybe..

Brock's a long way off here, I understand he throws soon, but needs 3 months of that before team activity

to edit - I still don't like a TL deal, unless the team is 100% convinced he's a bum.. as long as there is hope for a turnaround, you hold on.. he got hurt last year, now is the time to see the week to week improvement this summer